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(11-17-2020 01:26 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 12:43 PM)No Bull Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 12:35 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  FWIW - You don't recount for a 20k (.7%) vote margin. Especially when the canvas only changes the tally by around 50 votes.

However, if trump wants to pony up at least 3 million, light the match to the cash!

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They have. It's over.


We just want to count all the valid votes Tom. Patience. If Biden won he will be coronated soon enough. King of the Dumbasses.
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(11-17-2020 01:30 PM)No Bull Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 01:26 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 12:43 PM)No Bull Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 12:35 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  FWIW - You don't recount for a 20k (.7%) vote margin. Especially when the canvas only changes the tally by around 50 votes.

However, if trump wants to pony up at least 3 million, light the match to the cash!

[Image: giphy.gif?cid=4d1e4f29botm4azkh6bmzwon0y...=giphy.gif]

They have. It's over.


We just want to count all the valid votes Tom. Patience. If Biden won he will be coronated soon enough. King of the Dumbasses.

They have certified their results. That means they counted all valid votes. It's over.
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(11-17-2020 02:40 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 01:30 PM)No Bull Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 01:26 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 12:43 PM)No Bull Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 12:35 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  FWIW - You don't recount for a 20k (.7%) vote margin. Especially when the canvas only changes the tally by around 50 votes.

However, if trump wants to pony up at least 3 million, light the match to the cash!

[Image: giphy.gif?cid=4d1e4f29botm4azkh6bmzwon0y...=giphy.gif]

They have. It's over.


We just want to count all the valid votes Tom. Patience. If Biden won he will be coronated soon enough. King of the Dumbasses.

They have certified their results. That means they counted all valid votes. It's over.

This is why Ive been saying that the chance of winning this is almost zero---even if wide spread fraud exists. Lets assume for the sake of argument that wide spread fraud in the mail in ballots exists---tracking that down and proving it takes time. Its worth noting that we've already had one case of fraud filed involving thousands of mail in ballots in LA. The issue is, unless someone flips and exposes a large group of fraudsters, its very time consuming to track it down each individual ballot to confirm its legitimacy. So--even if if we assume it exists--I dont know how you'd go about proving it in time. Unless there is some sort of easy to prove software flaw--or a bunch of fraudsters flipping on each other---I tend to agree that we are just a few days from Trump having to throw in the towel on the legal effort.

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(11-17-2020 03:07 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 02:40 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 01:30 PM)No Bull Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 01:26 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 12:43 PM)No Bull Wrote:  [Image: giphy.gif?cid=4d1e4f29botm4azkh6bmzwon0y...=giphy.gif]

They have. It's over.


We just want to count all the valid votes Tom. Patience. If Biden won he will be coronated soon enough. King of the Dumbasses.

They have certified their results. That means they counted all valid votes. It's over.

This is why Ive been saying that the chance of winning this is almost zero---even if wide spread fraud exists. Lets assume for the sake of argument that wide spread fraud in the mail in ballots exists---tracking that down and proving it takes time. Its worth noting that we've already had one case of fraud filed involving thousands of mail in ballots in LA. The issue is, unless someone flips and exposes a large group of fraudsters, its very time consuming to track it down each individual ballot to confirm its legitimacy. So--even if if we assume it exists--I dont know how you'd go about proving it in time.

In the LA case they were only charged with 8 counts of voter fraud, so saying thousands is a bit premature.

But yes these things take time, but you have to find something initially to look into. The state are all canvassing, and they are not finding any significant issues. So when they aren't finding anything, you have nothing to look into.
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(11-17-2020 03:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 03:07 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 02:40 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 01:30 PM)No Bull Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 01:26 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  They have. It's over.


We just want to count all the valid votes Tom. Patience. If Biden won he will be coronated soon enough. King of the Dumbasses.

They have certified their results. That means they counted all valid votes. It's over.

This is why Ive been saying that the chance of winning this is almost zero---even if wide spread fraud exists. Lets assume for the sake of argument that wide spread fraud in the mail in ballots exists---tracking that down and proving it takes time. Its worth noting that we've already had one case of fraud filed involving thousands of mail in ballots in LA. The issue is, unless someone flips and exposes a large group of fraudsters, its very time consuming to track it down each individual ballot to confirm its legitimacy. So--even if if we assume it exists--I dont know how you'd go about proving it in time.

In the LA case they were only charged with 8 counts of voter fraud, so saying thousands is a bit premature.

But yes these things take time, but you have to find something initially to look into. The state are all canvassing, and they are not finding any significant issues. So when they aren't finding anything, you have nothing to look into.

And then you have to repeat the same success in at least 3 other states---perhaps more---to get to 270. Its a tall order even if you put all your resources in one state. If your splitting your resources over multiple states....the job seems even more overwhelming. I think you'll either see some shocking evidence in the next few days or you'll see an end to the legal effort. I cant see it dragging on much longer on just innuendo. m sure they have lots of evidence of fraud and illegal activity--but not enough to prove wide spread fraud in a court of law. In the end---we'll always have some doubt simply because the time line really didnt allow much exploration of the possibility.
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Trump knows he lost...

He is playing his supporters to get more donations...Honestly I don't blame him. The longer he drags this out the more donations he likely receives
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Since this is primarily a sports board, I will offer the following analogy. If President Trump's legal challenge to the election was a football game, he's down 84-0 at the end of the 3rd quarter. Every offensive possession he's had has ended in a turnover or a 3 and out. His offense has only a handful of plays for positive yardage, and none longer than 3 yards.

His problem is that virtually all of his arguments are factual rather than legal ones. Judges can decide legal arguments without any evidence. They can be appealed quickly and ruled on at the appellate level. Factual arguments require proof. If he weren't asking for injunctive relief (asking the court to stop things where they are), his lawyers could allege facts based on "information and belief," and could seek discovery on questions like whether dead people voted or ballots were disposed of or changed. However, to get injunctive relief, you must demonstrate at the outset that when the case is over, you are more likely than not to win. You therefore must have that evidence in hand right now, not wait to find it later.

His legal team has presumably thrown their best evidence at the courts and has had almost every request thrown out. It's difficult to imagine what new information he could find.

It's notable that all five states that flipped from Trump in 2016 to Biden in 2020 are controlled by Republican legislatures. They established the rules for the election. In Michigan, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, those legislatures decided that counting of absentee ballots could not begin until election day. At least two of these states, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, considered bipartisan bills to allow the counting to begin early, but Republicans, encouraged by the Trump campaign, declined to enact such bills, leading to the long wait for ballots to be counted. It is also well demonstrated that registered Democrats are far more likely to vote early, a trend enhanced by President Trump's encouragement of Republican voters to do so in person. Had the ballots been counted early and the included in the results released on election day, as they were in Florida for instance, Biden's wins would not have appeared to to be a comeback.

This is to say that President Trump to some extent engineered, but has also mischaracterized, a well anticipated event, tagged by some as the "red mirage," i.e., the late counting of the ballots, to create apparent support for his argument that the election was somehow rigged. However, he loudly signaled his intent to make this argument ahead of time, meaning that he knew in advance that most of the late counted ballots would be from registered Democrats, and indeed helped make it happen.

Finally, President Trump's public arguments regarding the potential for election rigging are easily disproven. All of the methods of fraud that he hypothesizes have been well considered by election administrators and have been protected against. No absentee ballot is accepted for counting without it being associated with a registered voter, signature checked. Once voted, that person cannot vote again. People simply cannot vote twice. If you request an absentee ballot, your name is tagged so that if you show up at the polls, you cannot vote unless you turn in your absentee ballot for destruction. If you don't bring it, they allow you to vote a provisional ballot that will only be counted if your absentee ballot is never received. States regularly undertake purges of deceased voters from the rolls. If widespread theft of absentee ballots were going on, there would be widespread complaints of not receiving ballots. If there were targeted destruction of mailed ballots, it would show up in disproportionately small return of ballots. With all of these controls in place, it is not even vaguely surprising that the Trump legal team has been unable to come up with any meaningful evidence of fraud.

If anything, voting in person by machine would seem to me the most vulnerable to tampering. If the machine is electronic, its software could be tampered with. If it is connected to a network, that network could be attacked. It is clearly preferable that all voting be done by paper ballot even if tabulated electronically. That way it can be audited or recounted by hand as they are doing in Georgia. Absentee ballots are all paper ballots and can be recounted easily.
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(11-17-2020 03:17 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 03:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 03:07 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 02:40 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 01:30 PM)No Bull Wrote:  We just want to count all the valid votes Tom. Patience. If Biden won he will be coronated soon enough. King of the Dumbasses.

They have certified their results. That means they counted all valid votes. It's over.

This is why Ive been saying that the chance of winning this is almost zero---even if wide spread fraud exists. Lets assume for the sake of argument that wide spread fraud in the mail in ballots exists---tracking that down and proving it takes time. Its worth noting that we've already had one case of fraud filed involving thousands of mail in ballots in LA. The issue is, unless someone flips and exposes a large group of fraudsters, its very time consuming to track it down each individual ballot to confirm its legitimacy. So--even if if we assume it exists--I dont know how you'd go about proving it in time.

In the LA case they were only charged with 8 counts of voter fraud, so saying thousands is a bit premature.

But yes these things take time, but you have to find something initially to look into. The state are all canvassing, and they are not finding any significant issues. So when they aren't finding anything, you have nothing to look into.

And then you have to repeat the same success in at least 3 other states---perhaps more---to get to 270. Its a tall order even if you put all your resources in one state. If your splitting your resources over multiple states....the job seems even more overwhelming. I think you'll either see some shocking evidence in the next few days or you'll see an end to the legal effort. I cant see it dragging on much longer on just innuendo.

Trust me, you would have seen it by now.
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(11-17-2020 12:35 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  FWIW - You don't recount for a 20k (.7%) vote margin. Especially when the canvas only changes the tally by around 50 votes.

However, if trump wants to pony up at least 3 million, light the match to the cash!

This isn't really true Tom. MOST states allow recounts at almost anyone's request (anyone involved... a candidate or a clerk, not a voter). Those that have thresholds, it's pretty standard for them to be between 0.5% and 2%... and this would be towards the low end of that.

In Texas, its 10% of the vote for a candidate... so despite losing by almost 700,000 votes, Biden ALMOST would have qualified for a recount here... (630,000).

I'm not calling for it... Won't change the outcome even if it changes a state or two... which is still a stretch... but it's not remotely a 'you don't do it'. It's literally in the law.
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(11-17-2020 03:17 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Trump knows he lost...

He is playing his supporters to get more donations...Honestly I don't blame him. The longer he drags this out the more donations he likely receives

Yup.

He sent out an email today, where if you did not read the fine print and signed up for donations, they would be recurring donations.

It's a scam.
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(11-17-2020 03:23 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 12:35 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  FWIW - You don't recount for a 20k (.7%) vote margin. Especially when the canvas only changes the tally by around 50 votes.

However, if trump wants to pony up at least 3 million, light the match to the cash!

This isn't really true Tom. MOST states allow recounts at almost anyone's request (anyone involved... a candidate or a clerk, not a voter). Those that have thresholds, it's pretty standard for them to be between 0.5% and 2%... and this would be towards the low end of that.

In Texas, its 10% of the vote for a candidate... so despite losing by almost 700,000 votes, Biden ALMOST would have qualified for a recount here... (630,000).

I'm not calling for it... Won't change the outcome even if it changes a state or two... which is still a stretch... but it's not remotely a 'you don't do it'. It's literally in the law.

Wisconsin requires the person requesting the recount to pay. Jill Stein of the Green Party ponied up $2-3 million in 2016 for a recount. This year, the President has waited so long, it's going to require tons of overtime to do it now.

Arizona only permits a recount if the election is within something like 200 votes.

In both cases, those damn Republican legislatures have done everything they can to f#ck the President.
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(11-17-2020 03:23 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 12:35 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  FWIW - You don't recount for a 20k (.7%) vote margin. Especially when the canvas only changes the tally by around 50 votes.

However, if trump wants to pony up at least 3 million, light the match to the cash!

This isn't really true Tom. MOST states allow recounts at almost anyone's request (anyone involved... a candidate or a clerk, not a voter). Those that have thresholds, it's pretty standard for them to be between 0.5% and 2%... and this would be towards the low end of that.

In Texas, its 10% of the vote for a candidate... so despite losing by almost 700,000 votes, Biden ALMOST would have qualified for a recount here... (630,000).

I'm not calling for it... Won't change the outcome even if it changes a state or two... which is still a stretch... but it's not remotely a 'you don't do it'. It's literally in the law.

I'm well aware that you CAN do a recount with that small a margin and some states allow it upon request, but you have to apply some common sense. There's NEVER been a recount change anywhere near 20k votes that I'm aware of. And when you add the fact that a state canvas only found 50 or so changes...it's just a waste of money...and since trump would have to foot the bill, we both know it ain't happening.

Anyway...where have you been...you've been silent since the election from what I've seen?
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(11-17-2020 03:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 03:17 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Trump knows he lost...

He is playing his supporters to get more donations...Honestly I don't blame him. The longer he drags this out the more donations he likely receives

Yup.

He sent out an email today, where if you did not read the fine print and signed up for donations, they would be recurring donations.

It's a scam.

This reply is a 'scam'

1) there are very specific laws regarding what this money can be spent on... well established law
2) the email was sent out in late October, not 'today'.
3) the check box regarding recurring charges is quite clear... the issue is that it defaults to 'continuing' weekly for about a month.
4) you get an email 3 days prior to the draw and can decline.

Again, not saying its a good thing to do... but as I've said from day one, no need to lie about things like this (not you, but your source) if things are so bad.
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(11-17-2020 03:29 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 03:24 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 03:17 PM)macgar32 Wrote:  Trump knows he lost...

He is playing his supporters to get more donations...Honestly I don't blame him. The longer he drags this out the more donations he likely receives

Yup.

He sent out an email today, where if you did not read the fine print and signed up for donations, they would be recurring donations.

It's a scam.

This reply is a 'scam'

1) there are very specific laws regarding what this money can be spent on... well established law
2) the email was sent out in late October, not 'today'.
3) the check box regarding recurring charges is quite clear... the issue is that it defaults to 'continuing' weekly for about a month.
4) you get an email 3 days prior to the draw and can decline.

Again, not saying its a good thing to do... but as I've said from day one, no need to lie about things like this (not you, but your source) if things are so bad.

This story sites a Daily Beast article (behind a paywall so I can't read it) which says they got the email on Sunday. I just heard about it today...apologies for my error saying it was sent today.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/trump-c...ab-report/
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(11-17-2020 03:27 PM)orangefan Wrote:  Wisconsin requires the person requesting the recount to pay. Jill Stein of the Green Party ponied up $2-3 million in 2016 for a recount. This year, the President has waited so long, it's going to require tons of overtime to do it now.

Arizona only permits a recount if the election is within something like 200 votes.

In both cases, those damn Republican legislatures have done everything they can to f#ck the President.
Funny that you use Jill Stein. She lost by hundreds of thousands of votes, and was well more than 20,000 votes shy of even getting state funds for her race, but she still contested it.

And you're slightly misrepresenting AZ (not saying on purpose). AZ doesn't allow for requested recounts. The threshold you're speaking of is an automatic recount... paid for by the state.

(11-17-2020 03:29 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I'm well aware that you CAN do a recount with that small a margin and some states allow it upon request, but you have to apply some common sense.
Where does it say that? See above. Jill Stein called for a recount.

Quote:There's NEVER been a recount change anywhere near 20k votes that I'm aware of. And when you add the fact that a state canvas only found 50 or so changes...it's just a waste of money...and since trump would have to foot the bill, we both know it ain't happening.

So why are you worried about it?

Quote:Anyway...where have you been...you've been silent since the election from what I've seen?
I got really burned out with the crap I kept seeing on TV about the election... I started checking out after I voted, about 2-3 weeks before the election iirc (still learning about down ballot issues)... Add to that my father's declining health and my daughter's death of her therapy animal and I've been busy.... but thanks for asking
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(11-17-2020 03:38 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  This story sites a Daily Beast article (behind a paywall so I can't read it) which says they got the email on Sunday. I just heard about it today...apologies for my error saying it was sent today.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/trump-c...ab-report/

No worries... As you saw, my admonition was addressed to 'them', not you...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/31/us/po...tions.html

Article written 10/31... so it had to be sent that day or earlier.
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(11-17-2020 03:41 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 03:27 PM)orangefan Wrote:  Wisconsin requires the person requesting the recount to pay. Jill Stein of the Green Party ponied up $2-3 million in 2016 for a recount. This year, the President has waited so long, it's going to require tons of overtime to do it now.

Arizona only permits a recount if the election is within something like 200 votes.

In both cases, those damn Republican legislatures have done everything they can to f#ck the President.
Funny that you use Jill Stein. She lost by hundreds of thousands of votes, and was well more than 20,000 votes shy of even getting state funds for her race, but she still contested it.

And you're slightly misrepresenting AZ (not saying on purpose). AZ doesn't allow for requested recounts. The threshold you're speaking of is an automatic recount... paid for by the state.

(11-17-2020 03:29 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  I'm well aware that you CAN do a recount with that small a margin and some states allow it upon request, but you have to apply some common sense.
Where does it say that? See above. Jill Stein called for a recount.

Quote:There's NEVER been a recount change anywhere near 20k votes that I'm aware of. And when you add the fact that a state canvas only found 50 or so changes...it's just a waste of money...and since trump would have to foot the bill, we both know it ain't happening.

So why are you worried about it?

Quote:Anyway...where have you been...you've been silent since the election from what I've seen?
I got really burned out with the crap I kept seeing on TV about the election... I started checking out after I voted, about 2-3 weeks before the election iirc (still learning about down ballot issues)... Add to that my father's declining health and my daughter's death of her therapy animal and I've been busy.... but thanks for asking

Damn...sorry about the personal matters...prayers that are all well now.

And FTR - No, I'm not worried about any of it. I actually hope he keeps dragging this out and wasting his money (but hopefully not his foolish donors money). It will just give him more opportunities to lose all over again, which makes me smile.
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(11-17-2020 03:43 PM)Hambone10 Wrote:  
(11-17-2020 03:38 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  This story sites a Daily Beast article (behind a paywall so I can't read it) which says they got the email on Sunday. I just heard about it today...apologies for my error saying it was sent today.
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/trump-c...ab-report/

No worries... As you saw, my admonition was addressed to 'them', not you...

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/31/us/po...tions.html

Article written 10/31... so it had to be sent that day or earlier.

Although, it would not surprise me that he's still sending variations of it. There's lots of reports of people getting spammed with all sorts of emails asking for money. With his pattern, it would not at all be surprising.
11-17-2020 03:47 PM
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