Good news on all fronts.

I'm not sure why people are so opposed to taking a vaccine however. There were issues with early polio vaccinations but nearly all children took it (and President Eisenhower was at the forefront of telling people to believe in science). And the number of polio cases dropped from thirty-eight thousand, in 1954, to twenty-nine thousand, in 1955—and, a year later, to fifteen thousand. Since then, polio has pretty much been wiped out in the United States and most of the world.

Here's some interesting reading on how that vaccine was developed and administered. Things are a little different today (for example, the polio vaccine licensing procedure took 2 1/2 hours to complete).

https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-com...ew-vaccine

(11-16-2020 08:59 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(11-16-2020 08:50 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(11-16-2020 08:48 AM)banker Wrote:  Too bad liberals vote on personality (perceived) instead of effectiveness when choosing their leaders. We could have had a proven winner in office another 4 years.

Proven leader? sounds like Senator, turned VP, turned POTUS Joe Biden to me.

47 years and 0 accomplishments. His grand finale will be destroying a roaring economy built by Trump.

Well, he did incarcerate a lot of black men for decades on minor offenses, so thats something he did in his 47 years.

(11-16-2020 08:50 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(11-16-2020 08:48 AM)banker Wrote:  Too bad liberals vote on personality (perceived) instead of effectiveness when choosing their leaders. We could have had a proven winner in office another 4 years.

Proven leader? sounds like Senator, turned VP, turned POTUS Joe Biden to me.

Yea?

What’s he ever lead?

47 years, what can you point to that’s been a net benefit for the American people?

Sharp as a cue ball.

(11-16-2020 09:59 AM)VA49er Wrote:  That's great and all but they are going to have to figure out how to ship these mRNA vaccines. Not sure how many places have that cold storage facilities, especially rural locations.

This one can go in regular refrigeration apparently. As in any food delivery truck.

The Pfizer one had that issue, this one seems a big improvement already.

(11-16-2020 08:50 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(11-16-2020 08:48 AM)banker Wrote:  Too bad liberals vote on personality (perceived) instead of effectiveness when choosing their leaders. We could have had a proven winner in office another 4 years.

Proven leader? sounds like Senator, turned VP, turned POTUS Joe Biden to me.

Lifelong do nothing with a career filled with bigotry and lies. A perfect democrat for the saps duped by the media.

(11-16-2020 08:29 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Considering the survival rate is > 99%, I'll pass.

I'll take it...of course big pharma will love it we get annual flu and covid shots going forward

(11-16-2020 08:50 AM)UofMemphis Wrote:  

(11-16-2020 08:48 AM)banker Wrote:  Too bad liberals vote on personality (perceived) instead of effectiveness when choosing their leaders. We could have had a proven winner in office another 4 years.

Proven leader? sounds like Senator, turned VP, turned POTUS Joe Biden to me.

U sure?

No thanks.

First of all, Joe Biden has absolutely zero to do with the progress made on a COVID-19 vaccine. Anyone that would suggest otherwise is just trolling.

Second, there's not a chance in hell I'm taking a COVID-19 vaccine.

I'm not saying I want to take it. I'm undecided at this point and leaning towards no.

However, folks that are a flat out "I'm not taking that vaccine." Well, they must be prepared for the 2020 ramifications of such a decisions. This isn't the 1950s. The economy was never shut down due to polio. Americans were never told they couldn't enjoy Thanksgiving because of polio. Kids weren't held back from going and asking for candy on Halloween because of polio. A certain political party wasn't bullying anyone who disagreed with them and labeling them as "conspiracy theorists" because of polio.

I have no doubt they (big gov't and their media thugs) will make it nearly an impossibility to enjoy everyday life and normal American freedoms if you don't get the vaccine. They'll come up with a way to know who has or hasn't taken the vaccine. Most likely scenario is probably some sort of card to carry around showing you took it so you have access to stores, restaurants and other public places.

The Democrats already know the Trump administration was quickly making progress with companies to get to a vaccine. That's not just happening in America, it's happening world wide. What's the next level? What's the end game the democrats can shoot for now? It's always control. They want to be able to control the populace because that's how they maintain power. So, I guarantee the democrats are ALREADY hard at work behind the scenes coming up with a way that Americans can "prove" they had a vaccine. They'll use the media to push it. They'll use the media to cultivate fear by pushing the vaccine takers to fear the non-vaccine takers (which would obviously on it's face be illogical anyways). They'll use the media to "allow" public shaming and bullying (just like they did with masks).

Stay at least one step ahead of stupid out there my friends.

(11-16-2020 11:14 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  I'm not saying I want to take it. I'm undecided at this point and leaning towards no.

However, folks that are a flat out "I'm not taking that vaccine." Well, they must be prepared for the 2020 ramifications of such a decisions. This isn't the 1950s. The economy was never shut down due to polio. Americans were never told they couldn't enjoy Thanksgiving because of polio. Kids weren't held back from going and asking for candy on Halloween because of polio. A certain political party wasn't bullying anyone who disagreed with them and labeling them as "conspiracy theorists" because of polio.

I have no doubt they (big gov't and their media thugs) will make it nearly an impossibility to enjoy everyday life and normal American freedoms if you don't get the vaccine. They'll come up with a way to know who has or hasn't taken the vaccine. Most likely scenario is probably some sort of card to carry around showing you took it so you have access to stores, restaurants and other public places.

The Democrats already know the Trump administration was quickly making progress with companies to get to a vaccine. That's not just happening in America, it's happening world wide. What's the next level? What's the end game the democrats can shoot for now? It's always control. They want to be able to control the populace because that's how they maintain power. So, I guarantee the democrats are ALREADY hard at work behind the scenes coming up with a way that Americans can "prove" they had a vaccine. They'll use the media to push it. They'll use the media to cultivate fear by pushing the vaccine takers to fear the non-vaccine takers (which would obviously on it's face be illogical anyways). They'll use the media to "allow" public shaming and bullying (just like they did with masks).

Stay at least one step ahead of stupid out there my friends.

Bullshiit. This is still America, for now. I've never taken a flu vaccine and I won't take a covid vaccine. If they want to come after me here I am. If you want to consider that stupid, then go ahead and be a sheep.

I will not comply. With their vaccines, with their cards, with their gun control, none of it. I was born free, I've live free all my life, and I'll die free, one way or the other.

And I won't go alone.

(11-16-2020 11:14 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  I'm not saying I want to take it. I'm undecided at this point and leaning towards no.

However, folks that are a flat out "I'm not taking that vaccine." Well, they must be prepared for the 2020 ramifications of such a decisions. This isn't the 1950s. The economy was never shut down due to polio. Americans were never told they couldn't enjoy Thanksgiving because of polio. Kids weren't held back from going and asking for candy on Halloween because of polio. A certain political party wasn't bullying anyone who disagreed with them and labeling them as "conspiracy theorists" because of polio.

I have no doubt they (big gov't and their media thugs) will make it nearly an impossibility to enjoy everyday life and normal American freedoms if you don't get the vaccine. They'll come up with a way to know who has or hasn't taken the vaccine. Most likely scenario is probably some sort of card to carry around showing you took it so you have access to stores, restaurants and other public places.

The Democrats already know the Trump administration was quickly making progress with companies to get to a vaccine. That's not just happening in America, it's happening world wide. What's the next level? What's the end game the democrats can shoot for now? It's always control. They want to be able to control the populace because that's how they maintain power. So, I guarantee the democrats are ALREADY hard at work behind the scenes coming up with a way that Americans can "prove" they had a vaccine. They'll use the media to push it. They'll use the media to cultivate fear by pushing the vaccine takers to fear the non-vaccine takers (which would obviously on it's face be illogical anyways). They'll use the media to "allow" public shaming and bullying (just like they did with masks).

Stay at least one step ahead of stupid out there my friends.

But if I’m going to Chicken shack and don’t have a card, why would those people with a card, I.e. vaccinated against me if I’m infected, care?

Edit: just saw you pointed out that’s illogical.

I wonder if people “recovered”, millions of them by now will need a vaccination? Or do they get a been there, recovered that card? Do we all have to still wear these dumb masks?

Is Big Wretch gonna let me use my boat this summer like her hubby was allowed to do? Am I allowed to use my own possessions again? Like a beach house? Are masks still required while sitting in said boat or on said beach?

What are our new rules?

(11-16-2020 11:56 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(11-16-2020 11:14 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  I'm not saying I want to take it. I'm undecided at this point and leaning towards no.

However, folks that are a flat out "I'm not taking that vaccine." Well, they must be prepared for the 2020 ramifications of such a decisions. This isn't the 1950s. The economy was never shut down due to polio. Americans were never told they couldn't enjoy Thanksgiving because of polio. Kids weren't held back from going and asking for candy on Halloween because of polio. A certain political party wasn't bullying anyone who disagreed with them and labeling them as "conspiracy theorists" because of polio.

I have no doubt they (big gov't and their media thugs) will make it nearly an impossibility to enjoy everyday life and normal American freedoms if you don't get the vaccine. They'll come up with a way to know who has or hasn't taken the vaccine. Most likely scenario is probably some sort of card to carry around showing you took it so you have access to stores, restaurants and other public places.

The Democrats already know the Trump administration was quickly making progress with companies to get to a vaccine. That's not just happening in America, it's happening world wide. What's the next level? What's the end game the democrats can shoot for now? It's always control. They want to be able to control the populace because that's how they maintain power. So, I guarantee the democrats are ALREADY hard at work behind the scenes coming up with a way that Americans can "prove" they had a vaccine. They'll use the media to push it. They'll use the media to cultivate fear by pushing the vaccine takers to fear the non-vaccine takers (which would obviously on it's face be illogical anyways). They'll use the media to "allow" public shaming and bullying (just like they did with masks).

Stay at least one step ahead of stupid out there my friends.

But if I’m going to Chicken shack and don’t have a card, why would those people with a card, I.e. vaccinated against me if I’m infected, care?

I wonder if people “recovered”, millions of them by now will need a vaccination? Or do they get a been there, recovered that card? Do we all have to still wear these dumb masks?

Is Big Wretch gonna let me use my boat this summer like her hubby was allowed to do? Am I allowed to use my own possessions again? Like a beach house? Are masks still required while sitting in said boat or on said beach?

What are our new rules?

https://twitter.com/AlisVolPropriis/stat...7759494150

OR ELSE

Mind boggling that people would vote for government like that. I dont need a governor, mayor, POTUS or anyone else telling me who i can have in my home and when they can be there, when and where i can eat and shop, etc. Not over some virus that 95%+ will recover from.

(11-16-2020 12:15 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Mind boggling that people would vote for government like that. I dont need a governor, mayor, POTUS or anyone else telling me who i can have in my home and when they can be there, when and where i can eat and shop, etc. Not over some virus that 95%+ will recover from.

Don't forget, less than 3.5% of the population have caught this out-of-control massive all-consuming pandemic illness.

(11-16-2020 12:19 PM)Claw Wrote:  

(11-16-2020 12:15 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  Mind boggling that people would vote for government like that. I dont need a governor, mayor, POTUS or anyone else telling me who i can have in my home and when they can be there, when and where i can eat and shop, etc. Not over some virus that 95%+ will recover from.

Don't forget, less than 3.5% of the population have caught this out-of-control massive all-consuming pandemic illness.

Which means, among other things, that it is not a pandemic.

(11-16-2020 09:59 AM)VA49er Wrote:  That's great and all but they are going to have to figure out how to ship these mRNA vaccines. Not sure how many places have that cold storage facilities, especially rural locations.

It depends on the guv'ner, first you say you won't use it and then you want to sue because you won't get it. That's so laughable and that's what is running things in some states. I blame the stupid voters and they'll be crying and still re-electing them for second and third terms. They're like Memphis, not too bright. It's New York though and I won't shed a tear for them as they deserve what they get and I hope it bites them in the S bigly. LOL

(11-16-2020 12:03 PM)green Wrote:  

(11-16-2020 11:56 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(11-16-2020 11:14 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  I'm not saying I want to take it. I'm undecided at this point and leaning towards no.

However, folks that are a flat out "I'm not taking that vaccine." Well, they must be prepared for the 2020 ramifications of such a decisions. This isn't the 1950s. The economy was never shut down due to polio. Americans were never told they couldn't enjoy Thanksgiving because of polio. Kids weren't held back from going and asking for candy on Halloween because of polio. A certain political party wasn't bullying anyone who disagreed with them and labeling them as "conspiracy theorists" because of polio.

I have no doubt they (big gov't and their media thugs) will make it nearly an impossibility to enjoy everyday life and normal American freedoms if you don't get the vaccine. They'll come up with a way to know who has or hasn't taken the vaccine. Most likely scenario is probably some sort of card to carry around showing you took it so you have access to stores, restaurants and other public places.

The Democrats already know the Trump administration was quickly making progress with companies to get to a vaccine. That's not just happening in America, it's happening world wide. What's the next level? What's the end game the democrats can shoot for now? It's always control. They want to be able to control the populace because that's how they maintain power. So, I guarantee the democrats are ALREADY hard at work behind the scenes coming up with a way that Americans can "prove" they had a vaccine. They'll use the media to push it. They'll use the media to cultivate fear by pushing the vaccine takers to fear the non-vaccine takers (which would obviously on it's face be illogical anyways). They'll use the media to "allow" public shaming and bullying (just like they did with masks).

Stay at least one step ahead of stupid out there my friends.

But if I’m going to Chicken shack and don’t have a card, why would those people with a card, I.e. vaccinated against me if I’m infected, care?

I wonder if people “recovered”, millions of them by now will need a vaccination? Or do they get a been there, recovered that card? Do we all have to still wear these dumb masks?

Is Big Wretch gonna let me use my boat this summer like her hubby was allowed to do? Am I allowed to use my own possessions again? Like a beach house? Are masks still required while sitting in said boat or on said beach?

What are our new rules?

https://twitter.com/AlisVolPropriis/stat...7759494150

OR ELSE

She needs to do it. Oregonians need to "feel" what they voted for.

(11-16-2020 11:38 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(11-16-2020 11:14 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  I'm not saying I want to take it. I'm undecided at this point and leaning towards no.

However, folks that are a flat out "I'm not taking that vaccine." Well, they must be prepared for the 2020 ramifications of such a decisions. This isn't the 1950s. The economy was never shut down due to polio. Americans were never told they couldn't enjoy Thanksgiving because of polio. Kids weren't held back from going and asking for candy on Halloween because of polio. A certain political party wasn't bullying anyone who disagreed with them and labeling them as "conspiracy theorists" because of polio.

I have no doubt they (big gov't and their media thugs) will make it nearly an impossibility to enjoy everyday life and normal American freedoms if you don't get the vaccine. They'll come up with a way to know who has or hasn't taken the vaccine. Most likely scenario is probably some sort of card to carry around showing you took it so you have access to stores, restaurants and other public places.

The Democrats already know the Trump administration was quickly making progress with companies to get to a vaccine. That's not just happening in America, it's happening world wide. What's the next level? What's the end game the democrats can shoot for now? It's always control. They want to be able to control the populace because that's how they maintain power. So, I guarantee the democrats are ALREADY hard at work behind the scenes coming up with a way that Americans can "prove" they had a vaccine. They'll use the media to push it. They'll use the media to cultivate fear by pushing the vaccine takers to fear the non-vaccine takers (which would obviously on it's face be illogical anyways). They'll use the media to "allow" public shaming and bullying (just like they did with masks).

Stay at least one step ahead of stupid out there my friends.

Bullshiit. This is still America, for now. I've never taken a flu vaccine and I won't take a covid vaccine. If they want to come after me here I am. If you want to consider that stupid, then go ahead and be a sheep.

I will not comply. With their vaccines, with their cards, with their gun control, none of it. I was born free, I've live free all my life, and I'll die free, one way or the other.

And I won't go alone.

They will enforce it for schools.

(11-16-2020 11:38 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(11-16-2020 11:14 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  I'm not saying I want to take it. I'm undecided at this point and leaning towards no.

However, folks that are a flat out "I'm not taking that vaccine." Well, they must be prepared for the 2020 ramifications of such a decisions. This isn't the 1950s. The economy was never shut down due to polio. Americans were never told they couldn't enjoy Thanksgiving because of polio. Kids weren't held back from going and asking for candy on Halloween because of polio. A certain political party wasn't bullying anyone who disagreed with them and labeling them as "conspiracy theorists" because of polio.

I have no doubt they (big gov't and their media thugs) will make it nearly an impossibility to enjoy everyday life and normal American freedoms if you don't get the vaccine. They'll come up with a way to know who has or hasn't taken the vaccine. Most likely scenario is probably some sort of card to carry around showing you took it so you have access to stores, restaurants and other public places.

The Democrats already know the Trump administration was quickly making progress with companies to get to a vaccine. That's not just happening in America, it's happening world wide. What's the next level? What's the end game the democrats can shoot for now? It's always control. They want to be able to control the populace because that's how they maintain power. So, I guarantee the democrats are ALREADY hard at work behind the scenes coming up with a way that Americans can "prove" they had a vaccine. They'll use the media to push it. They'll use the media to cultivate fear by pushing the vaccine takers to fear the non-vaccine takers (which would obviously on it's face be illogical anyways). They'll use the media to "allow" public shaming and bullying (just like they did with masks).

Stay at least one step ahead of stupid out there my friends.

Bullshiit. This is still America, for now. I've never taken a flu vaccine and I won't take a covid vaccine. If they want to come after me here I am. If you want to consider that stupid, then go ahead and be a sheep.

I will not comply. With their vaccines, with their cards, with their gun control, none of it. I was born free, I've live free all my life, and I'll die free, one way or the other.

And I won't go alone.

I wasn't saying the "no vaccine" types are stupid. I literally said I'm leaning no myself. I said "stay one step ahead of stupid" in terms of staying one step ahead of the democrats plans for control.