I was wondering.... if Cincy makes the CFP, would another team, like SMU, make the NY6 too? Or does it have to be a conference champion that gets the bid?

(11-07-2020 05:14 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  I was wondering.... if Cincy makes the CFP, would another team, like SMU, make the NY6 too? Or does it have to be a conference champion that gets the bid?

Yes

(11-07-2020 05:21 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-07-2020 05:14 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  I was wondering.... if Cincy makes the CFP, would another team, like SMU, make the NY6 too? Or does it have to be a conference champion that gets the bid?

Yes

It may be theoretically possible, but right now, there are three non-P5 schools ahead of SMU in the AP top 25 (BYU, Coastal Carolina, & Marshall), and all three are currently undefeated.

Now that Georgia has lost two games, Cincinnati will probably move up to #5, pending the results of today's Clemson-Notre Dame game.
However, it's not clear whether the loser of the Clemson-ND game would necessarily fall below Cincy in the CFP rankings. In addition, Cincy will have to win out by convincing margins.

i dont think there is official bylaws ..i think if that happened i think they would decide then what to do

if they go by precedent, the p5 dont lose their ny6 slot for playoff bids...if they hold precedent, will it be only amoung the other g4 champs, or will our second place team be eligible?

if they dont care about precedent --and does what p5 have always done, screw the g5--they will just make it a general at-large spot

Shoooooot...Cincy is losing to the ECU juggernaut, so no CFP or NY6 bowl for them. Go Pirates.



Maybe I made this Old Fashioned a little to strong....

If a non-contract-bowl-conference champion is ranked in the top 4 and a CFP semi-finalist...that CFP bowl is a NY6 bowl and that counts . Could a second non-contract-bowl-conference team, champion or second-place AAC team, be ranked high enough to get an at-large bid? Even in this year of more at large bids (if any of Cotton, Fiesta, Peach are a semifinalist, number of at-large bids decreases) probably need to be around #8 to get an at large. (BigXII and Pac12 champs may be lower than that but get their contract spot; ACC replacement for champ in Orange liwer than top twelve)

(11-07-2020 05:45 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Shoooooot...Cincy is losing to the ECU juggernaut, so no CFP or NY6 bowl for them. Go Pirates.



Maybe I made this Old Fashioned a little to strong....

This man types wisdom and sees the future. ECU over Cindy by 17. Print it.

Sorry to disappoint you, but Cincinnati won't be going to the playoff. They're going to lose to Tulsa in December.

No.

(11-07-2020 06:19 PM)8BitPirate Wrote:  

(11-07-2020 05:45 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Shoooooot...Cincy is losing to the ECU juggernaut, so no CFP or NY6 bowl for them. Go Pirates.



Maybe I made this Old Fashioned a little to strong....

This man types wisdom and sees the future. ECU over Cindy by 17. Print it.

I’m a prophet!

Thanks OTM.

(11-07-2020 06:24 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  Sorry to disappoint you, but Cincinnati won't be going to the playoff. They're going to lose to Tulsa in December.

You using the same refs that you had for the ECU game? If so, that is easy $$$.

(11-07-2020 05:45 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Shoooooot...Cincy is losing to the ECU juggernaut, so no CFP or NY6 bowl for them. Go Pirates.



Maybe I made this Old Fashioned a little to strong....

(11-07-2020 06:24 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  Sorry to disappoint you, but Cincinnati won't be going to the playoff. They're going to lose to Tulsa in December.

Joe Biden Refs will do that game in UC is undefeated.

(11-07-2020 06:59 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(11-07-2020 05:45 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Shoooooot...Cincy is losing to the ECU juggernaut, so no CFP or NY6 bowl for them. Go Pirates.



Maybe I made this Old Fashioned a little to strong....

I’m actually on #2, but they’ve each had about 3 times the normal amount of bourbon. Plus I’m way under caloried today.

(11-07-2020 05:40 PM)pesik Wrote:  i dont think there is official bylaws ..i think if that happened i think they would decide then what to do

if they go by precedent, the p5 dont lose their ny6 slot for playoff bids...if they hold precedent, will it be only amoung the other g4 champs, or will our second place team be eligible?

if they dont care about precedent --and does what p5 have always done, screw the g5--they will just make it a general at-large spot

Good points.

However, if Cincy and BYU win out, they will both be AP top 10 teams, and with slots for 12 teams in the NY6, it would cause a ruckus if they're not both in the NY6.

The question would be whether the P5 powers that be and the networks would be willing to damn the consequences just so they could screw over BYU or Cincy.

(11-07-2020 05:14 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  I was wondering.... if Cincy makes the CFP, would another team, like SMU, make the NY6 too? Or does it have to be a conference champion that gets the bid?

In theory, it would be possible, but the likelyhood is somewhere around zero percent. A second team could be chosen as an at large. However, if Cincinnati were chosen for the playoffs, that would mean the team they beat in the conference championship game, let's say SMU, would have two losses, so not a chance they are selected.

(11-07-2020 05:52 PM)slhNavy91 Wrote:  If a non-contract-bowl-conference champion is ranked in the top 4 and a CFP semi-finalist...that CFP bowl is a NY6 bowl and that counts . Could a second non-contract-bowl-conference team, champion or second-place AAC team, be ranked high enough to get an at-large bid? Even in this year of more at large bids (if any of Cotton, Fiesta, Peach are a semifinalist, number of at-large bids decreases) probably need to be around #8 to get an at large. (BigXII and Pac12 champs may be lower than that but get their contract spot; ACC replacement for champ in Orange liwer than top twelve)

This man knows his stuff.

(11-07-2020 07:34 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote:  

(11-07-2020 05:14 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  I was wondering.... if Cincy makes the CFP, would another team, like SMU, make the NY6 too? Or does it have to be a conference champion that gets the bid?

In theory, it would be possible, but the likelyhood is somewhere around zero percent. A second team could be chosen as an at large. However, if Cincinnati were chosen for the playoffs, that would mean the team they beat in the conference championship game, let's say SMU, would have two losses, so not a chance they are selected.

I agree... But it would be worth pointing out that they will have only lost to one team (twice) and that team is good enough to be in the CFP.

If a G5 goes to the CFP, there is no obligation on the part of the CFP to put another G5 conference champ into the NY6 slot. I don't recall where I read that. I think it was a Q&A from a national sportswriter years ago, but he cited something solid to back it up.

Makes sense, b/c the P5 would be giving up revenue. Something they detest.

If a CFP team is from any G5 conference, another team in that same conference wouldn't even qualify for a NY6 spot, b/c they would not be the conference champ. As someone else said, they could theoretically get an at large spot, but chances would be slim to none. Lots of 2-loss P5s would beat out any 1-loss G5.

(11-07-2020 05:21 PM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(11-07-2020 05:14 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  I was wondering.... if Cincy makes the CFP, would another team, like SMU, make the NY6 too? Or does it have to be a conference champion that gets the bid?

Yes

We could but the auto bid has to be a conf champ. So it would have to be an at large, and that won't happen.