(10-22-2020 10:08 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Biden said that no one lost their health coverage with Obamacare. BS...I lost mine. My company had a group policy that we paid less than $150 per month(company paid $200 per employee)..so...$350 total. Obamacare came in and said we had to end our plan because it "did not meet Obamacare standards". Im now paying over $750 per month for a plan...THAT IS WORSE THAN THE ONE I HAD!!!! Additionally....I have 5 employees that have NO insurance. Why? Even with OCare...it is too expensive. Obamacare is a disaster that we intentionally had foisted upon us to fail. If we elect Biden....You can almost insure we will have Socialist healthcare.

THIS^^^^^

Our plan nearly doubled in price and the benefits got WORSE.

They keep talking about "super-spreader" events. Is not that exactly how Kamala the slut moved up the legal ladder?

(10-22-2020 10:19 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(10-22-2020 10:17 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  God I pray someone gets on the Trump team and explains the Bismarck approach to healthcare to him and he makes it his plan.

Dude you have posted Bismarck 100,000 times here. We are not Germany.

LOL...Cue Owl to post another 100,000 times. I think you have us confused..but..I agree with him fully on the concept.

(10-22-2020 10:14 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  Finished.

Mod was better, but that The Talk question was a joke.

I thought climate change would be a joke topic but Biden's GND plan is scary AF.

Wish GOP had a better answer for healthcare. Way back they should've just said Obamacare is fine, no need to expand it, & cite the advaantages of group health care, but the 'repeal' thing is what makes people nervous.

For those who were concerned no foriegn policy, a good 10-15 minutes was on their possible ties to foreign countries, as well as North Korea & China

Biden really needed to be clearer on combating COVID other than blaming Trump. His website has a very large section on it, but I guess he wasn't informed what's on it?

The Abraham Lincoln thing was an attempt of sarcasm by Biden.

I think we're overestimating Biden's cognitive decline. He's certainly not good, but he's good enough to be a puppet & read speeches.

Am I the only one who dislikes Biden more than Kamala? Kamala is at least functional.

I think both held their own. It just comes down to who's policies you like better

People with dementia come and go.

My Dad can sit at dinner and tell my son examples of how to do math in his head. And then 10 minutes later will be talking about doing something he hasn't been physically able to do in 15-20 years. And he will talk about it in great detail. If you didn't know better you would think it was real. He did it once at the doctor's and the doctor was giving my sister (who was there with him) a quizzical look and she subtly shook her head no.

My wife's aunt had Alzheimers. Her mother had dementia and lived 5 years in a nursing home with it. So we spent a lot of time visiting those two. My two grandmothers spent a good bit of time in nursing homes and we visited them. You see a lot of people with dementia in those places and learn to recognize it.

There's no question Biden has a significant case of it. Would you have a president who suddenly wouldn't know where he was or whether the red button was for ice water or a nuclear missile? Its really pretty scary.

(10-22-2020 10:22 PM)Was SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(10-22-2020 10:04 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(10-22-2020 10:02 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(10-22-2020 09:59 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  This debate was never going to change a vote from one side to the other's. But, it was an opportunity to convince registered voters to show up and vote for a candidate that had them on the fence. Trump won this debate hands down. There are voters out there that will now go out and cast a ballet for Trump after this debate. Biden didn't slur his way into gaining any additional votes tonight. In fact, his comments on the oil industry probably helped earn Trump more fence sitter's votes in Pennsylvania, Texas, Oklahoma, and Louisiana. The (slanted) polls have been tightening, and I expect them to tighten even more following this debate.

He probably lost PA tonight. Imo.

Biden? I think he lost PA too. He never had a chance in Texas, Oklahoma, or Louisiana. Biden canceled his additional ad purchases in Texas last week. He knows Texas is still red.

He hasn’t lost Pennsylvania yet. Depends on how many votes the democrats need to make up in the weeks after the election....

The Supreme Court will look very different on Oct. 26th and "turncoat" Roberts won't be able to obstruct justice anymore. I highly doubt those extra PA votes from after Nov. 3rd will be allowed to count.

I think Joe damaged himself greatly tonight.
Shocking that liberals must not be aware that videotape actually exists.

(10-22-2020 10:48 PM)450bench Wrote:  I think Joe damaged himself greatly tonight.
Shocking that liberals must not be aware that videotape actually exists.

CNN doesn't show them videos they aren't supposed to see

CNN just had a group of "undecided" voters at Davidson College in NC vote on who won the debate. Trump got 0 votes. LOL

I think the net result of tonight has more to do with giving Trump ammo for the final push than winning the debate. Biden gave him lots of ammo to go after him.

(10-22-2020 09:47 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Bottom line. No votes changed.

While I dont think massive numbers changed. I do think there are people in the battle ground states that are still on the fense.

Two group that I think the President probably won votes and Biden lost vote. We all think the black vote have made up their mind. I still think there are 10s of thousand that might just look at what was said tonight and go check it out.

All of them might not change their minds but they will give it more thought. The President hit it out of the park with his answers on the black vote. Biden used the same "vote for me because you are black" No matter what we did or didnt do in the 8 years Obama was President. This time I really really really mean it when I SAY "I'm going to help you". Biden also put all the blame on Obama in not getting things done. I believe he muttered "Im only VP"

Oil country, Joe Biden did awful and the President was on point. If anyone was thinking I believe Joe Biden but maybe he talks a little out of both sides of his mouth. That person is going to question it.

Was millions changed nation wide? No but in those swing states it only takes 5,000 - 10,000 or so people to change their mind in 2016 and Trump might not be President.

Maybe not one vote changed but I think those two areas were great for the President tonight. Awful for Biden. Honestly those are two likely areas the President can change votes and make this election flip...

if you believe the polls.

Didnt have to win a war...just a couple key battles

(10-22-2020 10:55 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(10-22-2020 09:47 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Bottom line. No votes changed.

While I dont think massive numbers changed. I do think there are people in the battle ground states that are still on the fense.

Two group that I think the President probably won votes and Biden lost vote. We all think the black vote have made up their mind. I still think there are 10s of thousand that might just look at what was said tonight and go check it out.

All of them might not change their minds but they will give it more thought. The President hit it out of the park with his answers on the black vote. Biden used the same "vote for me because you are black" No matter what we did or didnt do in the 8 years Obama was President. This time I really really really mean it when I SAY "I'm going to help you". Biden also put all the blame on Obama in not getting things done. I believe he muttered "Im only VP"

Oil country, Joe Biden did awful and the President was on point. If anyone was thinking I believe Joe Biden but maybe he talks a little out of both sides of his mouth. That person is going to question it.

Was millions changed nation wide? No but in those swing states it only takes 5,000 - 10,000 or so people to change their mind in 2016 and Trump might not be President.

Maybe not one vote changed but I think those two areas were great for the President tonight. Awful for Biden. Honestly those are two likely areas the President can change votes and make this election flip...

if you believe the polls.

Didnt have to win a war...just a couple key battles

I believe Biden made a GIANT mistake on the energy issue. He might put his own state in jeopardy with that stance. Lets be frank. Most people did not watch this tonight. They will however hear in the next couple of days that Biden is going to end the oil and gas industry by 2025 and that is going to be concern for anyone that has any common sense. Watch the energy company's bombard the swing states with ads calling Biden out on this issue. It could spell his doom IMO.

Came out of tonight pretty happy to have voted against both these guys.

(10-22-2020 11:01 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  Came out of tonight pretty happy to have voted against both these guys.

Cant blame you one iota. Id do the same if I was not in NC. Im going to hold my nose and vote for Trump this time in self defense. The Democrat agenda going forward is a potential disaster for this country. Just Biden's admission that he supports ending the oil and gas industry is enough for me.

(10-22-2020 11:01 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  Came out of tonight pretty happy to have voted against both these guys.

Your choice but lets be honest....

you most likely voted for a bigger idiot than Biden and that man is 6 to 12 months from not knowing where he's at. If you voted 3rd party

(10-22-2020 11:01 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  Came out of tonight pretty happy to have voted against both these guys.

That's one less Biden vote. Well done

(10-22-2020 11:01 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  Came out of tonight pretty happy to have voted against both these guys.

“If you choose not to choose you still have made a choice” Neil Peart, Rush.

(10-22-2020 11:11 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(10-22-2020 11:01 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  Came out of tonight pretty happy to have voted against both these guys.

Your choice but lets be honest....

you most likely voted for a bigger idiot than Biden and that man is 6 to 12 months from not knowing where he's at. If you voted 3rd party

Green Party, I believe

(10-22-2020 11:15 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  

(10-22-2020 11:11 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(10-22-2020 11:01 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  Came out of tonight pretty happy to have voted against both these guys.

Your choice but lets be honest....

you most likely voted for a bigger idiot than Biden and that man is 6 to 12 months from not knowing where he's at. If you voted 3rd party

Green Party, I believe

https://twitter.com/themainepain/status/...8920474624

MAYBE. MAYBE NOT.

(10-22-2020 11:26 PM)green Wrote:  

(10-22-2020 11:15 PM)Bronco14 Wrote:  

(10-22-2020 11:11 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(10-22-2020 11:01 PM)wmubroncopilot Wrote:  Came out of tonight pretty happy to have voted against both these guys.

Your choice but lets be honest....

you most likely voted for a bigger idiot than Biden and that man is 6 to 12 months from not knowing where he's at. If you voted 3rd party

Green Party, I believe

https://twitter.com/themainepain/status/...8920474624

MAYBE. MAYBE NOT.

Wow, Guam! Wonder if Howie is worried all that campaigning for zero electoral votes might tip it?!

I wish the President had spent 15 seconds and looked right at Joe Biden and said...

tell the American people tonight if the Laptop is proven to be your sons and its proven to be emails that have not been doctored and its proven Russia did not play a role in the pictures of your son smoking crack and the video of him with a underage girl are real. You will resign from running for President if its before Nov 3rd?

You sit here tonight and looked the American people in the eye and told them tonight...Russia is behind this and its fake. Would Joe have a out without having to agree to that?