(10-12-2020 01:47 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  @BillyEmbody
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News: #SMU RB TJ McDaniel and WR Reggie Roberson will have season-ending surgeries for injuries sustained in the Memphis game, per Sonny Dykes.

Really sorry to hear this, especially Roberson.

(10-12-2020 04:04 PM)coogrfan Wrote:  

(10-12-2020 01:47 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  @BillyEmbody
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News: #SMU RB TJ McDaniel and WR Reggie Roberson will have season-ending surgeries for injuries sustained in the Memphis game, per Sonny Dykes.

Really sorry to hear this, especially Roberson.

Thanks coog, but I have confidence that Sonny will have the troops ready to go.

Dennis Dodd
@dennisdoddcbs
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Just now: 61% of Power Five support what would essentially be a breakaway from the NCAA to establish a fourth division in all sports. P5 would be able to establish its own amateurism rules and scholarship limits. #knightcommission

Be curious to know where he gets this number. Do the college presidents support this? 'Cause that's who is going to make this decision.

(10-13-2020 01:44 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Dennis Dodd
@dennisdoddcbs
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Just now: 61% of Power Five support what would essentially be a breakaway from the NCAA to establish a fourth division in all sports. P5 would be able to establish its own amateurism rules and scholarship limits. #knightcommission

Except for it's going to be more than just the P5 in that division. The logical step is to go with 80-90 schools (eight conferences of eleven teams mostly on geography/history makes the most sense and gives the 5-8 powers their own little kingdoms to rule over). Otherwise its 65 schools beating up on each other.

Right now the AAC has a chance to have it's best performance overall ever, largely because the SEC is going to have multiple loss top teams as will the ACC. Meanwhile the B12 has issues because they lost too many of their one non-conference games and is now following the SEC and ACC in beating each other up. The AAC has done well enough in its average of 2 ooc games per team to build up.

End of this season will see those p5 teams looking for little brothers like rutgers and louisville who will come in and take less money to be part of the club. They need about 20 solid teams in rep and support to take along with them for wins and votes/appearences.

This is of course why the p6 is important along with the importance of the performance the last several years.

USF made the WSJ about Long Snappers. Must have subscription but provides a small piece.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/footballs-m...listc_pos1

The University of South Florida learned the hard way who the most essential workers in football during the pandemic are: long snappers.

Long snappers are the unheralded specialists who hike the ball for field goals and punts. At USF, a freak confluence of events, highlighted by a cluster of Covid-19 cases on the Bulls roster, quickly created a giant headache for head coach Jeff Scott.

A knee injury knocked out South Florida’s returning long snapper in preseason camp. Backup Bryce Brendan—a freshman who the team desperately recruited from the video department—couldn’t travel to a game at Notre Dame due to contact tracing after a coronavirus outbreak on the team began. The outbreak also ravaged the team’s depth, removing linebacker Antonio Grier as an emergency option.

So against Notre Dame on Sept. 19, the job fell to Ian Deneen, the team’s third stringer. His first two snaps flew off-target, resulting in a desperate kick for a one-yard gain and a blocked punt. That’s when Scott did something unthinkable: he asked his quarterback to give the “pooch punt” a college try, a maneuver of last resort that involves the signal caller kicking the ball high and short with the hopes of minimizing the opposing team’s return.

Such mishaps are why the pandemic season is prompting football coaches to proclaim their respect for the lowly long snapper.

“Ask any football coach in America and…they might be the MVP of every football team,” said interim Austin Peay coach Marquase Lovings, who found himself in a similar predicament when all three of his long snappers, and most of his punters, were sidelined by contact tracing.

The long snapper is perhaps the most specialized—and most easily ignored—player on the football field. They spend hours bending over upside down, chucking balls between their legs with speed and pinpoint precision. Nobody pays any attention to them unless something goes horribly awry.

(10-13-2020 03:27 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 01:44 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Dennis Dodd
@dennisdoddcbs
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Just now: 61% of Power Five support what would essentially be a breakaway from the NCAA to establish a fourth division in all sports. P5 would be able to establish its own amateurism rules and scholarship limits. #knightcommission

Except for it's going to be more than just the P5 in that division. The logical step is to go with 80-90 schools (eight conferences of eleven teams mostly on geography/history makes the most sense and gives the 5-8 powers their own little kingdoms to rule over). Otherwise its 65 schools beating up on each other.

Right now the AAC has a chance to have it's best performance overall ever, largely because the SEC is going to have multiple loss top teams as will the ACC. Meanwhile the B12 has issues because they lost too many of their one non-conference games and is now following the SEC and ACC in beating each other up. The AAC has done well enough in its average of 2 ooc games per team to build up.

End of this season will see those p5 teams looking for little brothers like rutgers and louisville who will come in and take less money to be part of the club. They need about 20 solid teams in rep and support to take along with them for wins and votes/appearences.

This is of course why the p6 is important along with the importance of the performance the last several years.

Yeah exactly; the 39% not in favor are the schools that would perennial doormats. These coaches and AD's don't want to give up the cupcake games. Even if they kept one it would still mean notably more teams with losing records causing coaches and ADs to be on even hotter seats. Fans don't want to pay premiums for losing teams. Right now the SEC, Big Ten, Big 12 ands others have their own fans fooled that a team has 4-5 losses in conference with 2-3 cupcake wins OOC vs CUSA and FCS is a legit winner because their overall record is 7-5 or 8-4.

(10-14-2020 12:55 PM)Poseidon Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 03:27 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  

(10-13-2020 01:44 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Dennis Dodd
@dennisdoddcbs
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1h
Just now: 61% of Power Five support what would essentially be a breakaway from the NCAA to establish a fourth division in all sports. P5 would be able to establish its own amateurism rules and scholarship limits. #knightcommission

Except for it's going to be more than just the P5 in that division. The logical step is to go with 80-90 schools (eight conferences of eleven teams mostly on geography/history makes the most sense and gives the 5-8 powers their own little kingdoms to rule over). Otherwise its 65 schools beating up on each other.

Right now the AAC has a chance to have it's best performance overall ever, largely because the SEC is going to have multiple loss top teams as will the ACC. Meanwhile the B12 has issues because they lost too many of their one non-conference games and is now following the SEC and ACC in beating each other up. The AAC has done well enough in its average of 2 ooc games per team to build up.

End of this season will see those p5 teams looking for little brothers like rutgers and louisville who will come in and take less money to be part of the club. They need about 20 solid teams in rep and support to take along with them for wins and votes/appearences.

This is of course why the p6 is important along with the importance of the performance the last several years.

Yeah exactly; the 39% not in favor are the schools that would perennial doormats. These coaches and AD's don't want to give up the cupcake games. Even if they kept one it would still mean notably more teams with losing records causing coaches and ADs to be on even hotter seats. Fans don't want to pay premiums for losing teams. Right now the SEC, Big Ten, Big 12 ands others have their own fans fooled that a team has 4-5 losses in conference with 2-3 cupcake wins OOC vs CUSA and FCS is a legit winner because their overall record is 7-5 or 8-4.

I was thinking the opposite. I was thinking the B12 schools that lost to the Sun Belt this year would be the first aboard the bus.

Once the P5 breakaway they will soon start adding schools. It always happens. In that event the AAC will be gutted of their best football programs......Houston, Memphis, Cincy, and UCF.

The rest will be scrambling for replacements

(10-14-2020 05:18 PM)texoma Wrote:  Once the P5 breakaway they will soon start adding schools. It always happens. In that event the AAC will be gutted of their best football programs......Houston, Memphis, Cincy, and UCF.

The rest will be scrambling for replacements

P5 apologists have to be some of my least favorite people to deal with.

@Brett_McMurphy
Good news: all 127 FBS teams playing this fall are immediately bowl eligible as NCAA officially approves no win requirements to play in a bowl, sources told @Stadium. Bad news: only 78 teams are needed to fill 39 bowls this year

(10-14-2020 05:18 PM)texoma Wrote:  Once the P5 breakaway they will soon start adding schools. It always happens. In that event the AAC will be gutted of their best football programs......Houston, Memphis, Cincy, and UCF.

The rest will be scrambling for replacements

Didn't SMU just beat Memphis?

SMU might make it also, if they could ever get their attendance to a respectable level.

https://twitter.com/jelin_samuels/status...2643518467

(10-14-2020 08:49 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(10-14-2020 05:18 PM)texoma Wrote:  Once the P5 breakaway they will soon start adding schools. It always happens. In that event the AAC will be gutted of their best football programs......Houston, Memphis, Cincy, and UCF.

The rest will be scrambling for replacements

Didn't SMU just beat Memphis?

Yes, after losing:
48-10
63-0
51-7
66-45
28-18
54-48

It took Memphis having around 40 kids out, not playing a game for 28 straight days, not practicing or being allowed at football facility for 2 weeks, sort of practicing in small group settings for a few days with no contact, then traveling to your place to play and fumbling on a game winning drive to give you all that opportunity to kick a game winner to win by 3. But having said that if there is a split, it would be dumb if SMU did not get to go with the group mentioned above

(10-14-2020 10:14 PM)tiger27 Wrote:  

(10-14-2020 08:49 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(10-14-2020 05:18 PM)texoma Wrote:  Once the P5 breakaway they will soon start adding schools. It always happens. In that event the AAC will be gutted of their best football programs......Houston, Memphis, Cincy, and UCF.

The rest will be scrambling for replacements

Didn't SMU just beat Memphis?

Yes, after losing:
48-10
63-0
51-7
66-45
28-18
54-48

It took Memphis having around 40 kids out, not playing a game for 28 straight days, not practicing or being allowed at football facility for 2 weeks, sort of practicing in small group settings for a few days with no contact, then traveling to your place to play and fumbling on a game winning drive to give you all that opportunity to kick a game winner to win by 3. But having said that if there is a split, it would be dumb if SMU did not get to go with the group mentioned above

Ya have to add SMU because of Dallas alone. I would put them in the five spot behind the aforementioned teams, but it would be hard to leave them out.

As for the four teams, I'd rank them Cincinnati, Memphis/Houston (tie), UCF. I'd say UCF is definitely the best football program, but not much on the basketball side of things as of now. I don't want to hear about basketball not mattering. It matters. Name recognition is a big part of all this. When we got invited to the Big East, it had nothing to do with our football program at the time.

(10-14-2020 10:46 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(10-14-2020 10:14 PM)tiger27 Wrote:  

(10-14-2020 08:49 PM)SMUstang Wrote:  

(10-14-2020 05:18 PM)texoma Wrote:  Once the P5 breakaway they will soon start adding schools. It always happens. In that event the AAC will be gutted of their best football programs......Houston, Memphis, Cincy, and UCF.

The rest will be scrambling for replacements

Didn't SMU just beat Memphis?

Yes, after losing:
48-10
63-0
51-7
66-45
28-18
54-48

It took Memphis having around 40 kids out, not playing a game for 28 straight days, not practicing or being allowed at football facility for 2 weeks, sort of practicing in small group settings for a few days with no contact, then traveling to your place to play and fumbling on a game winning drive to give you all that opportunity to kick a game winner to win by 3. But having said that if there is a split, it would be dumb if SMU did not get to go with the group mentioned above

Ya have to add SMU because of Dallas alone. I would put them in the five spot behind the aforementioned teams, but it would be hard to leave them out.

As for the four teams, I'd rank them Cincinnati, Memphis/Houston (tie), UCF. I'd say UCF is definitely the best football program, but not much on the basketball side of things as of now. I don't want to hear about basketball not mattering. It matters. Name recognition is a big part of all this. When we got invited to the Big East, it had nothing to do with our football program at the time.

TCU says hi. Also academics matter so Memphis would not be in front of UCF, that’s the reason you guys didn’t even make the B12’s final list a few years ago.

(10-14-2020 07:12 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  @Brett_McMurphy
Good news: all 127 FBS teams playing this fall are immediately bowl eligible as NCAA officially approves no win requirements to play in a bowl, sources told @Stadium. Bad news: only 78 teams are needed to fill 39 bowls this year

* bowl season. Can't wait to not watch.

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