(10-14-2020 11:06 AM)CardinalJim Wrote: Far Left Media Matters?
Come on man that’s desperation posting a rebuttal from a source that bias.
Dude, your source is the Murdoch owned post via Giuliani and Bannon, likely based on Russian propaganda.
Look in the mirror.
But you can clear it up by presenting what the story got wrong. Maybe with the name of the shop owner, the actual shop name, some corroboration from the FBI, evidence of an actual meeting between Joe and the Burisma guy......
Otherwise, you got the same thing you've always had. Hunter suffers from substance use disorder.
You realize every time somebody uses the phrase "russian propaganda" they are reminded of HiLIARy.
(10-14-2020 01:03 PM)Redwingtom Wrote: You're a moron.
Per your boyfriend Adam Schiff, "Whistleblowers need to be protected" or is it if they claim to have evidence against Donald Trump? I have a tough time with how you cults operate.
Protected from what? If he exists, he's not a government employee and is in no risk of being fired from the shop he supposedly owns.
You guys crack my **** up.
OH so only government employees need to be protected?
What about the "idea" that seems to riot and burn down buildings? Or is that still a myth?
Sorry.. I forget the cult doesn't talk about it's violent division.
Moron, he's not a whistleblower.
Quote:A whistleblower (also written as whistle-blower or whistle blower) is a person, usually an employee, who exposes information or activity within a private, public, or government organization that is deemed illegal, illicit, unsafe, or a waste, fraud, or abuse of taxpayer funds.
See Tom the difference between you and I is that I don't get mad when I'm proven wrong. Nor do I call people names.. and when people call me names I don't go running to Mods and turn them in.
I also notice you're not concerned about the person, not if it's factual or not. See we all remember you and the above instances I provided. So he's not a WB, he's an anonymous source, and my recollection is that you claim nobody needs to know who they are, which makes me wonder why you are so hellbent on knowing who this is? Is you hypocrisy getting in teh way of your water carrying of the Blue Cult? You call us cultist all you want you f'n DEMOCRAT. No matter how you try to paint it, I remember 2008-2016. You're not an independent. You're a Democrat.
Quote:The implication is that Joe Biden improperly used his position as vice president to benefit his son’s Ukrainian business interests. But as we learned when Giuliani and his allies pushed the story last year, that isn’t what happened. Biden did pressure the Ukrainian government to force the prosecutor in question, Viktor Shokin, to resign. But he did so because the U.S. government had determined that Shokin wasn’t doing enough to fight corruption in the country -- an assessment shared by American allies and the International Monetary Fund. And at the time Biden acted, the Ukrainian investigation into Burisma Holdings, the company Hunter Biden was linked to, had reportedly been moribund for a year.
But the story is even thinner than that -- the email the Post cites does not actually show that Hunter Biden “introduced” Joe Biden to the Burisma executive. In the email, Vadym Pozharskyi, described by the Post as “an adviser to the board of Burisma,” thanks Hunter Biden for “giving an opportunity to meet your father.” If the email is genuine, that comment “may just as easily have meant Hunter promised a meeting in the future that may never have occurred,” and the Post does not appear to have produced any other reporting indicating such a meeting took place.
The bizarre provenance of the emails cited in the Post article should also give journalists pause -- it involves the unnamed “shop owner” of a Delaware computer repair store who claims that someone brought a “water-damaged MacBook Pro” into the shop in April 2019, never came to pick it up, and ignored all entreaties to come get it. (It is unclear from the article whether the Post spoke directly to the “shop owner” or learned this secondhand from, say, Giuliani.).
The “shop owner” supposedly “couldn’t positively identify the customer as Hunter Biden” but the story also includes what appears to be a photo of a receipt for the work made out to Hunter Biden. The “shop owner” claims to have reviewed the laptop’s contents, copied them (possibly illegally), alerted the FBI and gave them the laptop, and provided the copy to a Giuliani associate.
(10-14-2020 11:06 AM)CardinalJim Wrote: Far Left Media Matters?
Come on man that’s desperation posting a rebuttal from a source that bias.
Dude, your source is the Murdoch owned post via Giuliani and Bannon, likely based on Russian propaganda.
Look in the mirror.
But you can clear it up by presenting what the story got wrong. Maybe with the name of the shop owner, the actual shop name, some corroboration from the FBI, evidence of an actual meeting between Joe and the Burisma guy......
Otherwise, you got the same thing you've always had. Hunter suffers from substance use disorder.
You realize every time somebody uses the phrase "russian propaganda" they are reminded of HiLIARy.
It seems that Tom has found the DNC Deflection Talking Points. I've seen the same thing on Twitter already from others.
For someone who isn't a Dem, he sure does stick to their talking points.
(This post was last modified: 10-14-2020 01:41 PM by GrayBeard.)
Quote:The Obama administration let a Democratic p.r. company that worked for Ukrainian energy firm Burisma take part in a conference call about an upcoming visit to Ukraine by then-Vice President Joe Biden, emails obtained by The Post show.
An associate at Blue Star Strategies then emailed a memo with minutes of the conference call hosted by the White House to a top Burisma executive, Vadym Pozharskyi, as well as to Joe Biden’s son Hunter and Hunter’s business partner, Devon Archer, both of whom sat on Burisma’s board.
The trip, in December 2015, turned out to be the one during which Biden later bragged about forcing Ukrainian officials to fire a state prosecutor who was investigating Burisma by threatening to withhold a $1 billion US loan guarantee.
The memo, sent shortly after the Dec. 2, 2015, call, also “outlined the trip’s agenda and addressed several questions regarding US policy toward Ukraine.”
Blue Star has said it began working for Burisma and contacting Ukrainian officials on its behalf in November 2015, and an email shows that on Nov. 18, 2015, Pozharskyi sent the Blue Star contract to Hunter Biden, Archer and Eric Schwerin, president of the Rosemont Seneca Partners investment firm.
Hunter Biden and Archer were among RSP’s founders, along with former Secretary of State John Kerry’s stepson, Christopher Heinz, Reuters has reported.
“Could you kindly have BS countersign it and forward back to me?” Pozharskyi wrote. “I am kindly asking you to schedule either a conf call or advise us as to the foreseen action plan for November-December 2015, and if anything has been already done by BS, could kindly you ask them to share with us this information?”
(10-14-2020 01:25 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote: You know there is something to this....I have not seen the left and its media minions circle the wagons in such a unified manner in many moons.
Yeah, they are. But you know who will walk right up to his bully pulpit and slam the Biden for being the human garbage they are while the media cant silence him??? That magnificent orange emperor
Quote:The implication is that Joe Biden improperly used his position as vice president to benefit his son’s Ukrainian business interests. But as we learned when Giuliani and his allies pushed the story last year, that isn’t what happened. Biden did pressure the Ukrainian government to force the prosecutor in question, Viktor Shokin, to resign. But he did so because the U.S. government had determined that Shokin wasn’t doing enough to fight corruption in the country -- an assessment shared by American allies and the International Monetary Fund. And at the time Biden acted, the Ukrainian investigation into Burisma Holdings, the company Hunter Biden was linked to, had reportedly been moribund for a year.
But the story is even thinner than that -- the email the Post cites does not actually show that Hunter Biden “introduced” Joe Biden to the Burisma executive. In the email, Vadym Pozharskyi, described by the Post as “an adviser to the board of Burisma,” thanks Hunter Biden for “giving an opportunity to meet your father.” If the email is genuine, that comment “may just as easily have meant Hunter promised a meeting in the future that may never have occurred,” and the Post does not appear to have produced any other reporting indicating such a meeting took place.
The bizarre provenance of the emails cited in the Post article should also give journalists pause -- it involves the unnamed “shop owner” of a Delaware computer repair store who claims that someone brought a “water-damaged MacBook Pro” into the shop in April 2019, never came to pick it up, and ignored all entreaties to come get it. (It is unclear from the article whether the Post spoke directly to the “shop owner” or learned this secondhand from, say, Giuliani.).
The “shop owner” supposedly “couldn’t positively identify the customer as Hunter Biden” but the story also includes what appears to be a photo of a receipt for the work made out to Hunter Biden. The “shop owner” claims to have reviewed the laptop’s contents, copied them (possibly illegally), alerted the FBI and gave them the laptop, and provided the copy to a Giuliani associate.
(10-14-2020 11:06 AM)CardinalJim Wrote: Far Left Media Matters?
Come on man that’s desperation posting a rebuttal from a source that bias.
Dude, your source is the Murdoch owned post via Giuliani and Bannon, likely based on Russian propaganda.
Look in the mirror.
But you can clear it up by presenting what the story got wrong. Maybe with the name of the shop owner, the actual shop name, some corroboration from the FBI, evidence of an actual meeting between Joe and the Burisma guy......
Otherwise, you got the same thing you've always had. Hunter suffers from substance use disorder.
You realize every time somebody uses the phrase "russian propaganda" they are reminded of HiLIARy.
It seems that Tom has found the DNC Deflection Talking Points. I've seen the same thing on Twitter already from others.
For someone who isn't a Dem, he sure does stick to their talking points.
Low hanging fruit.
The cults penchant for this garbage is just too much fun to ignore.
I'll never apologize for following the facts. Again, when you get actual evidence of something, come see me. In the meantime (to paraphrase Elaine Benes), all you've got is hand, and you're going to need it.
Quote:The implication is that Joe Biden improperly used his position as vice president to benefit his son’s Ukrainian business interests. But as we learned when Giuliani and his allies pushed the story last year, that isn’t what happened. Biden did pressure the Ukrainian government to force the prosecutor in question, Viktor Shokin, to resign. But he did so because the U.S. government had determined that Shokin wasn’t doing enough to fight corruption in the country -- an assessment shared by American allies and the International Monetary Fund. And at the time Biden acted, the Ukrainian investigation into Burisma Holdings, the company Hunter Biden was linked to, had reportedly been moribund for a year.
But the story is even thinner than that -- the email the Post cites does not actually show that Hunter Biden “introduced” Joe Biden to the Burisma executive. In the email, Vadym Pozharskyi, described by the Post as “an adviser to the board of Burisma,” thanks Hunter Biden for “giving an opportunity to meet your father.” If the email is genuine, that comment “may just as easily have meant Hunter promised a meeting in the future that may never have occurred,” and the Post does not appear to have produced any other reporting indicating such a meeting took place.
The bizarre provenance of the emails cited in the Post article should also give journalists pause -- it involves the unnamed “shop owner” of a Delaware computer repair store who claims that someone brought a “water-damaged MacBook Pro” into the shop in April 2019, never came to pick it up, and ignored all entreaties to come get it. (It is unclear from the article whether the Post spoke directly to the “shop owner” or learned this secondhand from, say, Giuliani.).
The “shop owner” supposedly “couldn’t positively identify the customer as Hunter Biden” but the story also includes what appears to be a photo of a receipt for the work made out to Hunter Biden. The “shop owner” claims to have reviewed the laptop’s contents, copied them (possibly illegally), alerted the FBI and gave them the laptop, and provided the copy to a Giuliani associate.
lol....so desperate. The computer has emails FROM Hunter Biden to the VP of the United States.....and they get answered by the then Vice President of the United States. So yeah---I think we can safely say its Hunter Biden's computer. Hell---the Biden campaign isnt even denying its Hunters computer or that the emails are false. The only Biden Campaign response so far is basically "do all you can to keep this from spreading". By the way---that responding email is on an easily obtained US government server. Thus, the fact its was unknown until now shows this matter has NEVER been investigated in any meaningful way as that would be first level low hanging fruit in any actual investigation.
Desperate? You're relying on Rudy Giuliani to defeat a supposedly demented 77 year old man.
And I guess you missed this response from the campaign...
Woop!
Well, there it is. Didn’t happen cause we say so, we looked at his schedule and all... lulz
How about the pic of the golf foursome? Was that around the time this meeting “didn’t happen”?
Quote:The implication is that Joe Biden improperly used his position as vice president to benefit his son’s Ukrainian business interests. But as we learned when Giuliani and his allies pushed the story last year, that isn’t what happened. Biden did pressure the Ukrainian government to force the prosecutor in question, Viktor Shokin, to resign. But he did so because the U.S. government had determined that Shokin wasn’t doing enough to fight corruption in the country -- an assessment shared by American allies and the International Monetary Fund. And at the time Biden acted, the Ukrainian investigation into Burisma Holdings, the company Hunter Biden was linked to, had reportedly been moribund for a year.
But the story is even thinner than that -- the email the Post cites does not actually show that Hunter Biden “introduced” Joe Biden to the Burisma executive. In the email, Vadym Pozharskyi, described by the Post as “an adviser to the board of Burisma,” thanks Hunter Biden for “giving an opportunity to meet your father.” If the email is genuine, that comment “may just as easily have meant Hunter promised a meeting in the future that may never have occurred,” and the Post does not appear to have produced any other reporting indicating such a meeting took place.
The bizarre provenance of the emails cited in the Post article should also give journalists pause -- it involves the unnamed “shop owner” of a Delaware computer repair store who claims that someone brought a “water-damaged MacBook Pro” into the shop in April 2019, never came to pick it up, and ignored all entreaties to come get it. (It is unclear from the article whether the Post spoke directly to the “shop owner” or learned this secondhand from, say, Giuliani.).
The “shop owner” supposedly “couldn’t positively identify the customer as Hunter Biden” but the story also includes what appears to be a photo of a receipt for the work made out to Hunter Biden. The “shop owner” claims to have reviewed the laptop’s contents, copied them (possibly illegally), alerted the FBI and gave them the laptop, and provided the copy to a Giuliani associate.
lol....so desperate. The computer has emails FROM Hunter Biden to the VP of the United States.....and they get answered by the then Vice President of the United States. So yeah---I think we can safely say its Hunter Biden's computer. Hell---the Biden campaign isnt even denying its Hunters computer or that the emails are false. The only Biden Campaign response so far is basically "do all you can to keep this from spreading". By the way---that responding email is on an easily obtained US government server. Thus, the fact its was unknown until now shows this matter has NEVER been investigated in any meaningful way as that would be first level low hanging fruit in any actual investigation.
Desperate? You're relying on Rudy Giuliani to defeat a supposedly demented 77 year old man.
And I guess you missed this response from the campaign...
Woop!
Well, there it is. Didn’t happen cause we say so, we looked at his schedule and all... lulz
How about the pic of the golf foursome? Was that around the time this meeting “didn’t happen”?
Good grief.
Yea, I'm sure the "secret illegal meeting with person I lied about knowing" is on his calendar.
Send in the FBI, and have Biden answer the question.
Quote:The implication is that Joe Biden improperly used his position as vice president to benefit his son’s Ukrainian business interests. But as we learned when Giuliani and his allies pushed the story last year, that isn’t what happened. Biden did pressure the Ukrainian government to force the prosecutor in question, Viktor Shokin, to resign. But he did so because the U.S. government had determined that Shokin wasn’t doing enough to fight corruption in the country -- an assessment shared by American allies and the International Monetary Fund. And at the time Biden acted, the Ukrainian investigation into Burisma Holdings, the company Hunter Biden was linked to, had reportedly been moribund for a year.
But the story is even thinner than that -- the email the Post cites does not actually show that Hunter Biden “introduced” Joe Biden to the Burisma executive. In the email, Vadym Pozharskyi, described by the Post as “an adviser to the board of Burisma,” thanks Hunter Biden for “giving an opportunity to meet your father.” If the email is genuine, that comment “may just as easily have meant Hunter promised a meeting in the future that may never have occurred,” and the Post does not appear to have produced any other reporting indicating such a meeting took place.
The bizarre provenance of the emails cited in the Post article should also give journalists pause -- it involves the unnamed “shop owner” of a Delaware computer repair store who claims that someone brought a “water-damaged MacBook Pro” into the shop in April 2019, never came to pick it up, and ignored all entreaties to come get it. (It is unclear from the article whether the Post spoke directly to the “shop owner” or learned this secondhand from, say, Giuliani.).
The “shop owner” supposedly “couldn’t positively identify the customer as Hunter Biden” but the story also includes what appears to be a photo of a receipt for the work made out to Hunter Biden. The “shop owner” claims to have reviewed the laptop’s contents, copied them (possibly illegally), alerted the FBI and gave them the laptop, and provided the copy to a Giuliani associate.
lol....so desperate. The computer has emails FROM Hunter Biden to the VP of the United States.....and they get answered by the then Vice President of the United States. So yeah---I think we can safely say its Hunter Biden's computer. Hell---the Biden campaign isnt even denying its Hunters computer or that the emails are false. The only Biden Campaign response so far is basically "do all you can to keep this from spreading". By the way---that responding email is on an easily obtained US government server. Thus, the fact its was unknown until now shows this matter has NEVER been investigated in any meaningful way as that would be first level low hanging fruit in any actual investigation.
Desperate? You're relying on Rudy Giuliani to defeat a supposedly demented 77 year old man.
And I guess you missed this response from the campaign...
Woop!
Well, there it is. Didn’t happen cause we say so, we looked at his schedule and all... lulz
How about the pic of the golf foursome? Was that around the time this meeting “didn’t happen”?
Good grief.
Dude, sorry that we live in America where innocence is assumed until proof of guilt is shown. I guess you feel differently. Why do you hate our Constitution?
(10-14-2020 11:06 AM)CardinalJim Wrote: Far Left Media Matters?
Come on man that’s desperation posting a rebuttal from a source that bias.
Dude, your source is the Murdoch owned post via Giuliani and Bannon, likely based on Russian propaganda.
Look in the mirror.
But you can clear it up by presenting what the story got wrong. Maybe with the name of the shop owner, the actual shop name, some corroboration from the FBI, evidence of an actual meeting between Joe and the Burisma guy......
Otherwise, you got the same thing you've always had. Hunter suffers from substance use disorder.
You realize every time somebody uses the phrase "russian propaganda" they are reminded of HiLIARy.
It seems that Tom has found the DNC Deflection Talking Points. I've seen the same thing on Twitter already from others.
For someone who isn't a Dem, he sure does stick to their talking points.
Low hanging fruit.
The cults penchant for this garbage is just too much fun to ignore.
I'll never apologize for following the facts. Again, when you get actual evidence of something, come see me. In the meantime (to paraphrase Elaine Benes), all you've got is hand, and you're going to need it.
Believe me, I have a lot more than a "hand" to occupy my time.
So when you get called out for towing the party line talking points, you attempt to hurl insults.
lol....so desperate. The computer has emails FROM Hunter Biden to the VP of the United States.....and they get answered by the then Vice President of the United States. So yeah---I think we can safely say its Hunter Biden's computer. Hell---the Biden campaign isnt even denying its Hunters computer or that the emails are false. The only Biden Campaign response so far is basically "do all you can to keep this from spreading". By the way---that responding email is on an easily obtained US government server. Thus, the fact its was unknown until now shows this matter has NEVER been investigated in any meaningful way as that would be first level low hanging fruit in any actual investigation.
Desperate? You're relying on Rudy Giuliani to defeat a supposedly demented 77 year old man.
And I guess you missed this response from the campaign...
Woop!
Well, there it is. Didn’t happen cause we say so, we looked at his schedule and all... lulz
How about the pic of the golf foursome? Was that around the time this meeting “didn’t happen”?
Good grief.
Dude, sorry that we live in America where innocence is assumed until proof of guilt is shown. I guess you feel differently. Why do you hate our Constitution?
another hypocritical turd nugget response from CultistTom.
(10-14-2020 11:08 AM)Redwingtom Wrote: Dude, your source is the Murdoch owned post via Giuliani and Bannon, likely based on Russian propaganda.
Look in the mirror.
But you can clear it up by presenting what the story got wrong. Maybe with the name of the shop owner, the actual shop name, some corroboration from the FBI, evidence of an actual meeting between Joe and the Burisma guy......
Otherwise, you got the same thing you've always had. Hunter suffers from substance use disorder.
You realize every time somebody uses the phrase "russian propaganda" they are reminded of HiLIARy.
It seems that Tom has found the DNC Deflection Talking Points. I've seen the same thing on Twitter already from others.
For someone who isn't a Dem, he sure does stick to their talking points.
Low hanging fruit.
The cults penchant for this garbage is just too much fun to ignore.
I'll never apologize for following the facts. Again, when you get actual evidence of something, come see me. In the meantime (to paraphrase Elaine Benes), all you've got is hand, and you're going to need it.
Believe me, I have a lot more than a "hand" to occupy my time.
So when you get called out for towing the party line talking points, you attempt to hurl insults.
the beauty of irony?!
not one of us will put he/she/ze on ignore, nor report any of his posts...
