(08-24-2020 08:36 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 08:02 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 06:31 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 03:34 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Trump has not expanded his base... there is little, if any, chance he picks up a blue state from 2016... best shot is MN.

Biden is a more popular candidate than Hillary, and the party is not divided as it was in 2016. Trump’s path to victory will have to mirror 2016.

Yeah, I seriously think Trump’s votes all came in 2016 and he will match. A lot of people are waiting on “the silent majority” to come through, but they’re just a figment of everyone’s imagination until they do. Right now, they seem like a lot because of the availability heuristic, but I don’t think that they are very many in number this time.

The silent majority of the right is massive this time around. The rioting, unrest and anarchy have contributed greatly.

The “silent majority”... that lost the popular vote by 3 million.

Yes, that's another hurdle Democrats must overcome in order to win. They won the popular vote by 3% & still lost the election last time.

(08-24-2020 04:57 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 04:29 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 03:34 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Trump has not expanded his base... there is little, if any, chance he picks up a blue state from 2016... best shot is MN.

Biden is a more popular candidate than Hillary, and the party is not divided as it was in 2016. Trump’s path to victory will have to mirror 2016.

Have you lost what tiny bit of mind your pea brain possesses. I know many people that didnt vote because they were told Hillary would win. Trump has increased his following bigly. Hell driving down the road today in a very blue city there was a guy standing in the median waving a full sized Trump flag.

Another awful post Menstrual. You make it an art.

A good number of people (for no reason I can comprehend) really did like Hillary. Now not as many people despise Biden as despised Hillary. But nobody respects him.

I think Biden could get a lot more votes than Hillary. He's a lot more likable and less controversial. Voters view him as far less corrupt than Hillary (the Hunter Biden stuff hasn't stuck as well as Whitewater, Lewinskygate, the e-mail server, etc). But to follow through, Biden's got to prove he's not pre-Alzheimers.

Unfortunately for Trump, Trump has set the bar pretty low for Biden's mental state. If Trump doesn't humiliate Biden in the debate, it'll be seen as a Biden victory.

(08-24-2020 03:00 PM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 02:37 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 11:48 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 11:47 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 11:46 AM)gdunn Wrote:  Would that be the collective sound, would it be that loud?

I dunno but I'd be like

Acting like a Marshall student that banged a swimmer?

Wow, that happened maybe 10 years ago and it's still popular. LOL

It's a classic.

Marshall Swimmer Carrot Story

https://csnbbs.com/showthread.php?tid=567399

I was about 2 years into the CUSA board before reading it. Its easily the best thread I've read on a sports message board. Its actually like a good book, hate to put it down before getting to the end. I read all 29 pages (over 1100 post)in one night and forgot about how sick I was (getting over the flu).

(08-24-2020 12:44 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 12:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Sure, he could become a good president too.

Why slack off when he's a great president now?

He will be remembered with Johnson, Buchanan and Hoover. A stain on this great country. We all make mistakes. No need to revisit it.

(08-24-2020 03:28 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 03:22 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  Illinois is much more likely to vote Trump than CA or NY.

In 2016, Trump lost IL by 17 points, NY by 22%, and CA by 27%. Also 4% of Illinois voters voted Libertarian or McMillan in 2016, (compared to 2.42% in NY and 3.6% in CA). That was in a year when Illinois voters were ticked off at their Republican governor for going 2 years without a budget.

Since then, CA and NY have shut into a bubble and gotten more extreme. Illinoisans have watched while all the neighboring states with Republican governors have handled coronavirus better with lower restrictions.

Current polls say Biden has a 30 point lead in CA and a 24% lead in NY. There has not been a single poll yet in Illinois. But come November, if we're discussing Trump maybe winning Illinois then the election is already decided.

Yeah Trump's not going to win these 2 states. Getting it under 15% would be an accomplishment in itself

Yeah I think bearcat is more onto the reality of this. (I still hate Nick Van Excel for beating Penny's tigers 4 times in one year, God forgive me lol)

He may not pull out Cali and NY, but he will likely flip other blue states like in 2016 and have a much larger electorial win if these rumblings and trends are true.

A 350-400 EC tally may wake up the few reasonable dems out there about how insane their party has become. The hardliners will go even harder left and Marxist though.

It would be best for America if Trump could permanently damage the dem party by dividing the Marxists socialists from few remaining sensible democrats. A 3 party divide may me much better for us to slow the eventual implosion and fall of the nation to the demonic Godless left.

The 3 party idea is kinda a Lucy and the football thing that never seems to come to fruition though.

(08-25-2020 04:32 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 03:28 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 03:22 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  Illinois is much more likely to vote Trump than CA or NY.

In 2016, Trump lost IL by 17 points, NY by 22%, and CA by 27%. Also 4% of Illinois voters voted Libertarian or McMillan in 2016, (compared to 2.42% in NY and 3.6% in CA). That was in a year when Illinois voters were ticked off at their Republican governor for going 2 years without a budget.

Since then, CA and NY have shut into a bubble and gotten more extreme. Illinoisans have watched while all the neighboring states with Republican governors have handled coronavirus better with lower restrictions.

Current polls say Biden has a 30 point lead in CA and a 24% lead in NY. There has not been a single poll yet in Illinois. But come November, if we're discussing Trump maybe winning Illinois then the election is already decided.

Yeah Trump's not going to win these 2 states. Getting it under 15% would be an accomplishment in itself

Yeah I think bearcat is more onto the reality of this. (I still hate Nick Van Excel for beating Penny's tigers 4 times in one year, God forgive me lol)

He may not pull out Cali and NY, but he will likely flip other blue states like in 2016 and have a much larger electorial win if these rumblings and trends are true.

A 350-400 EC tally may wake up the few reasonable dems out there about how insane their party has become. The hardliners will go even harder left and Marxist though.

It would be best for America if Trump could permanently damage the dem party by dividing the Marxists socialists from few remaining sensible democrats. A 3 party divide may me much better for us to slow the eventual implosion and fall of the nation to the demonic Godless left.

The 3 party idea is kinda a Lucy and the football thing that never seems to come to fruition though.

Our first past the post system makes two parties inevitable.

(08-25-2020 01:45 AM)gobluebigjon Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 12:44 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 12:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Sure, he could become a good president too.

Why slack off when he's a great president now?

He will be remembered with Johnson, Buchanan and Hoover. A stain on this great country. We all make mistakes. No need to revisit it.

Damn you're being hard on your Lord Zero.

(08-24-2020 08:36 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 08:02 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 06:31 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 03:34 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Trump has not expanded his base... there is little, if any, chance he picks up a blue state from 2016... best shot is MN.

Biden is a more popular candidate than Hillary, and the party is not divided as it was in 2016. Trump’s path to victory will have to mirror 2016.

Yeah, I seriously think Trump’s votes all came in 2016 and he will match. A lot of people are waiting on “the silent majority” to come through, but they’re just a figment of everyone’s imagination until they do. Right now, they seem like a lot because of the availability heuristic, but I don’t think that they are very many in number this time.

The silent majority of the right is massive this time around. The rioting, unrest and anarchy have contributed greatly.

The “silent majority”... that lost the popular vote by 3 million.

and of course that is totally irrelevant to the discussion on electing the POTUS.

The answer to the question, absolutely not, but I wish he could. I wish enough people on the left in those 2 states would just vote Green that would give Trump a chance to win them.

(08-24-2020 10:23 PM)chargeradio Wrote:  If Trump makes California even just competitive, it will be a long four years for the blue team.

This

(08-25-2020 01:45 AM)gobluebigjon Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 12:44 PM)gdunn Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 12:43 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Sure, he could become a good president too.

Why slack off when he's a great president now?

He will be remembered with Johnson, Buchanan and Hoover. A stain on this great country. We all make mistakes. No need to revisit it.

And Obama is in great company with Carter...

Sorry Jon. You got 4 more years of the magnificent orange b@stard.

The only thing good about Hussein Obama was the fact that got Trump elected. Other than that, he was the worst and most incompetent President of a generation.

(08-25-2020 08:28 AM)450bench Wrote:  The only thing good about Hussein Obama was the fact that got Trump elected. Other than that, he was the worst and most incompetent President of a generation.

Maybe even ever

(08-25-2020 08:29 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  

(08-25-2020 08:28 AM)450bench Wrote:  The only thing good about Hussein Obama was the fact that got Trump elected. Other than that, he was the worst and most incompetent President of a generation.

Maybe even ever

Absolutely

(08-24-2020 10:34 PM)WKUApollo Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 08:36 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 08:02 PM)450bench Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 06:31 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 03:34 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Trump has not expanded his base... there is little, if any, chance he picks up a blue state from 2016... best shot is MN.

Biden is a more popular candidate than Hillary, and the party is not divided as it was in 2016. Trump’s path to victory will have to mirror 2016.

Yeah, I seriously think Trump’s votes all came in 2016 and he will match. A lot of people are waiting on “the silent majority” to come through, but they’re just a figment of everyone’s imagination until they do. Right now, they seem like a lot because of the availability heuristic, but I don’t think that they are very many in number this time.

The silent majority of the right is massive this time around. The rioting, unrest and anarchy have contributed greatly.

The “silent majority”... that lost the popular vote by 3 million.

Very true but a factor many don't consider when looking at the 3 million gap is that the two largest BLUE states, California and New York, both finished in the bottom 10 states in voter participation in 2016. Obviously, there's a slight chance that if their participation rate was on par with other states, such as Florida, that 3 million gap would be larger but I'd bet the farm that the opposite would happen. Trump supporters in Cali and NY didn't show up but Hillary supporters did because Trump's chances in those states was almost zero.

If you want to talk about voter suppression, how about California's open primaries? It means you get two Democrats running for every statewide office.

I don't think Trump could win NY or CA, but he absolutely can win the one of the last elements of the "Blue Wall" - good 'ol Minnesota. Lots of support for Trump in the areas outside of the Twin Cities, even in the Iron Range.

(08-24-2020 11:06 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 04:57 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 04:29 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 03:34 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Trump has not expanded his base... there is little, if any, chance he picks up a blue state from 2016... best shot is MN.

Biden is a more popular candidate than Hillary, and the party is not divided as it was in 2016. Trump’s path to victory will have to mirror 2016.

Have you lost what tiny bit of mind your pea brain possesses. I know many people that didnt vote because they were told Hillary would win. Trump has increased his following bigly. Hell driving down the road today in a very blue city there was a guy standing in the median waving a full sized Trump flag.

Another awful post Menstrual. You make it an art.

A good number of people (for no reason I can comprehend) really did like Hillary. Now not as many people despise Biden as despised Hillary. But nobody respects him.

I think Biden could get a lot more votes than Hillary. He's a lot more likable and less controversial. Voters view him as far less corrupt than Hillary (the Hunter Biden stuff hasn't stuck as well as Whitewater, Lewinskygate, the e-mail server, etc). But to follow through, Biden's got to prove he's not pre-Alzheimers.

Unfortunately for Trump, Trump has set the bar pretty low for Biden's mental state. If Trump doesn't humiliate Biden in the debate, it'll be seen as a Biden victory.

The doubt has been set. People will be looking for it. Biden has a big, beautiful wall to overcome, when he can't even find the way to the steps out of his basement.

(08-24-2020 08:36 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The “silent majority”... that lost the popular vote by 3 million.

This is such a stupid line. I can't believe you guys are still peddling it.

We don't cast a popular vote. Never have. To deny that this impacts behavior is SPECIFICALLY why Hillary lost.

I hope you win it again this time... Go and spend all your time and energy collecting all that money and votes in NY and Cali so that you once again win the 'popular vote'... Just like last time, CV Republicans will be in the bars celebrating while you're out drumming up more votes.

(08-25-2020 09:53 AM)Hambone10 Wrote:  

(08-24-2020 08:36 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The “silent majority”... that lost the popular vote by 3 million.

This is such a stupid line. I can't believe you guys are still peddling it.

We don't cast a popular vote. Never have. To deny that this impacts behavior is SPECIFICALLY why Hillary lost.

I hope you win it again this time... Go and spend all your time and energy collecting all that money and votes in NY and Cali so that you once again win the 'popular vote'... Just like last time, CV Republicans will be in the bars celebrating while you're out drumming up more votes.

We have at least 1 more idiot than you do is the best of a lot of terrible ways to pick a national leader.........thus Electoral College.

Hillary won NY and Cal by a total of 6 million votes. Trump won the other 48 by 3 million votes. That Hill + 3m nonsense is solely because of the mindless sardines packed in those 2 shytholes.