(08-24-2020 03:34 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Trump has not expanded his base... there is little, if any, chance he picks up a blue state from 2016... best shot is MN.
Biden is a more popular candidate than Hillary, and the party is not divided as it was in 2016. Trump’s path to victory will have to mirror 2016.
A..You are wrong. I did not vote for Trump in 16. I am in 20
B..Biden is not more popular than Hillary. Damn man...He failed miserably in 88 and in 08. He is not popular and NEVER has been among Democrats.
C..I agree..the path will be similar.
This election is about the lefts hatred of Trump...not the love for Biden and certainly not Harris. You are grossly underestimating how many independents like myself will hold their nose this time and support Trump because the democrat party is infested with Socialist moonbats and we just can't allow them to get a foothold.
(08-24-2020 03:34 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Trump has not expanded his base... there is little, if any, chance he picks up a blue state from 2016... best shot is MN.
Biden is a more popular candidate than Hillary, and the party is not divided as it was in 2016. Trump’s path to victory will have to mirror 2016.
Have you lost what tiny bit of mind your pea brain possesses. I know many people that didnt vote because they were told Hillary would win. Trump has increased his following bigly. Hell driving down the road today in a very blue city there was a guy standing in the median waving a full sized Trump flag.
Another awful post Menstrual. You make it an art.
A good number of people (for no reason I can comprehend) really did like Hillary. Now not as many people despise Biden as despised Hillary. But nobody respects him.
My neighborhood is probably 80% Democrat. I can't count how many Black Lives Matters and the like yard signs there are. I've seen 3 Biden signs. So 2 more than the Trump signs (its not me! I don't want to be vandalized). Hillary signs were all over in 2016.
(08-24-2020 11:28 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote: That would break the Democrats.
The explosion at TYT's headquarters would make Hiroshima look like a back yard fireworks display........
Oh, I so enjoyed the last 2016 TYT election video. Kasparian's hair will be tighter than ever! cCenk will have his tickets booked next to Whopi, then "accidentally" cancel them, because even that idiot knows America is the greatest country.
Those TYT videos are so entertaining. When I need a laugh I watch this.
(08-24-2020 03:34 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Trump has not expanded his base... there is little, if any, chance he picks up a blue state from 2016... best shot is MN.
Biden is a more popular candidate than Hillary, and the party is not divided as it was in 2016. Trump’s path to victory will have to mirror 2016.
Yeah, I seriously think Trump’s votes all came in 2016 and he will match. A lot of people are waiting on “the silent majority” to come through, but they’re just a figment of everyone’s imagination until they do. Right now, they seem like a lot because of the availability heuristic, but I don’t think that they are very many in number this time.
(This post was last modified: 08-24-2020 06:33 PM by nomad2u2001.)
Hillary had the first woman POTUS thing going for her and it didn't work. Biden is the oldest, whitest guy EVER to run for POTUS. Can't see how he would be more popular than Hillary. He is and always has been Uncle Joe. A clown who has never been taken seriously.
(08-24-2020 06:40 PM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote: Hillary had the first woman POTUS thing going for her and it didn't work. Biden is the oldest, whitest guy EVER to run for POTUS. Can't see how he would be more popular than Hillary. He is and always has been Uncle Joe. A clown who has never been taken seriously.
The first woman status doesn’t necessarily equal the ability to get people to like you. Likability, just like competency, has a limit. Her likability limit was as a Senator. Back in 2008 she was already kinda being considered as a snake after some things that happened back in that primary. I’m not sure Joe Biden is the type of guy somebody can ever say they hated. Now, taking him seriously is another matter.
Trump can screw up and lose this election, but Biden can't win it. If there was ever a time for a middle of the road, safe, non-controversial VP pick, this was it and Biden blew it.
(08-24-2020 03:34 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Trump has not expanded his base... there is little, if any, chance he picks up a blue state from 2016... best shot is MN.
Biden is a more popular candidate than Hillary, and the party is not divided as it was in 2016. Trump’s path to victory will have to mirror 2016.
Yeah, I seriously think Trump’s votes all came in 2016 and he will match. A lot of people are waiting on “the silent majority” to come through, but they’re just a figment of everyone’s imagination until they do. Right now, they seem like a lot because of the availability heuristic, but I don’t think that they are very many in number this time.
I did not vote for Trump in 16. I protest voted for Johnson even though Im in a swing state. I really did not care who won. I just did not want to vote for the lesser of two evils. This time...Im forced to vote for Trump because its not now the lesser of two evils. Its clear which gang is the threat to me and my family and they must be stopped. I can not tolerate the democrats in power...period.
(08-24-2020 07:09 PM)200yrs2late Wrote: Trump can screw up and lose this election, but Biden can't win it. If there was ever a time for a middle of the road, safe, non-controversial VP pick, this was it and Biden blew it.
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The second that Biden put himself in a corner and promised to pick a female VP I knew he was not worthy of my vote. No thinking, rational person does something like that. It showed a clear lack of common sense and that he was willing to PANDER to a particular demographic for votes. For clarity...Im fine with him picking Harris as VP if he felt after vetting both male and female choices that he felt she was someone that was qualified and ready to step in as POTUS. THAT..is and ALWAYS should be the process. What he did IMO was discriminatory, dangerous and foolish. He basically eliminated from the onset 1/2 of the legitimate choices based on gender alone.
(08-24-2020 03:22 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote: Illinois is much more likely to vote Trump than CA or NY.
In 2016, Trump lost IL by 17 points, NY by 22%, and CA by 27%. Also 4% of Illinois voters voted Libertarian or McMillan in 2016, (compared to 2.42% in NY and 3.6% in CA). That was in a year when Illinois voters were ticked off at their Republican governor for going 2 years without a budget.
Since then, CA and NY have shut into a bubble and gotten more extreme. Illinoisans have watched while all the neighboring states with Republican governors have handled coronavirus better with lower restrictions.
Current polls say Biden has a 30 point lead in CA and a 24% lead in NY. There has not been a single poll yet in Illinois. But come November, if we're discussing Trump maybe winning Illinois then the election is already decided.
Yeah Trump's not going to win these 2 states. Getting it under 15% would be an accomplishment in itself
If he can cut those states like that...he’s rolling to a big win.
Agreed.
If those northeastern states are closer than last time it will be a long night for team blue
(08-24-2020 03:34 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Trump has not expanded his base... there is little, if any, chance he picks up a blue state from 2016... best shot is MN.
Biden is a more popular candidate than Hillary, and the party is not divided as it was in 2016. Trump’s path to victory will have to mirror 2016.
Yeah, I seriously think Trump’s votes all came in 2016 and he will match. A lot of people are waiting on “the silent majority” to come through, but they’re just a figment of everyone’s imagination until they do. Right now, they seem like a lot because of the availability heuristic, but I don’t think that they are very many in number this time.
I think Trump losing his supporters is just wishful thinking by the Democrats.
(08-24-2020 03:34 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Trump has not expanded his base... there is little, if any, chance he picks up a blue state from 2016... best shot is MN.
Biden is a more popular candidate than Hillary, and the party is not divided as it was in 2016. Trump’s path to victory will have to mirror 2016.
Yeah, I seriously think Trump’s votes all came in 2016 and he will match. A lot of people are waiting on “the silent majority” to come through, but they’re just a figment of everyone’s imagination until they do. Right now, they seem like a lot because of the availability heuristic, but I don’t think that they are very many in number this time.
The silent majority of the right is massive this time around. The rioting, unrest and anarchy have contributed greatly.
(08-24-2020 03:34 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Trump has not expanded his base... there is little, if any, chance he picks up a blue state from 2016... best shot is MN.
Biden is a more popular candidate than Hillary, and the party is not divided as it was in 2016. Trump’s path to victory will have to mirror 2016.
Yeah, I seriously think Trump’s votes all came in 2016 and he will match. A lot of people are waiting on “the silent majority” to come through, but they’re just a figment of everyone’s imagination until they do. Right now, they seem like a lot because of the availability heuristic, but I don’t think that they are very many in number this time.
The silent majority of the right is massive this time around. The rioting, unrest and anarchy have contributed greatly.
Im not sure if it will be the silent majority or those that just never gave a schit about voting. It will be interesting to see if the voter turnout is higher and what that would mean for either candidate. I agree the rioting should spur some people to turn on the Democrats in these cities that they control.
(08-24-2020 03:34 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Trump has not expanded his base... there is little, if any, chance he picks up a blue state from 2016... best shot is MN.
Biden is a more popular candidate than Hillary, and the party is not divided as it was in 2016. Trump’s path to victory will have to mirror 2016.
Yeah, I seriously think Trump’s votes all came in 2016 and he will match. A lot of people are waiting on “the silent majority” to come through, but they’re just a figment of everyone’s imagination until they do. Right now, they seem like a lot because of the availability heuristic, but I don’t think that they are very many in number this time.
The silent majority of the right is massive this time around. The rioting, unrest and anarchy have contributed greatly.
The “silent majority”... that lost the popular vote by 3 million.
(This post was last modified: 08-24-2020 10:00 PM by Marc Mensa.)
(08-24-2020 03:34 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Trump has not expanded his base... there is little, if any, chance he picks up a blue state from 2016... best shot is MN.
Biden is a more popular candidate than Hillary, and the party is not divided as it was in 2016. Trump’s path to victory will have to mirror 2016.
Yeah, I seriously think Trump’s votes all came in 2016 and he will match. A lot of people are waiting on “the silent majority” to come through, but they’re just a figment of everyone’s imagination until they do. Right now, they seem like a lot because of the availability heuristic, but I don’t think that they are very many in number this time.
The silent majority of the right is massive this time around. The rioting, unrest and anarchy have contributed greatly.
The “silent majority”... that lost the popular vote 3 million.
They won the last election and they’ll win this one. Thank God the electoral college doesn’t allow California/New York nut jobs to hijack the election for the rest of the country.
(08-24-2020 12:04 PM)fsquid Wrote: MY cousin who lives in southern cali is convinced that Trump will win CA. He's a pretty smart guy, but I don't see it happening.
If Trump makes California even just competitive, it will be a long four years for the blue team.
(08-24-2020 03:34 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Trump has not expanded his base... there is little, if any, chance he picks up a blue state from 2016... best shot is MN.
Biden is a more popular candidate than Hillary, and the party is not divided as it was in 2016. Trump’s path to victory will have to mirror 2016.
Yeah, I seriously think Trump’s votes all came in 2016 and he will match. A lot of people are waiting on “the silent majority” to come through, but they’re just a figment of everyone’s imagination until they do. Right now, they seem like a lot because of the availability heuristic, but I don’t think that they are very many in number this time.
The silent majority of the right is massive this time around. The rioting, unrest and anarchy have contributed greatly.
The “silent majority”... that lost the popular vote by 3 million.
Very true but a factor many don't consider when looking at the 3 million gap is that the two largest BLUE states, California and New York, both finished in the bottom 10 states in voter participation in 2016. Obviously, there's a slight chance that if their participation rate was on par with other states, such as Florida, that 3 million gap would be larger but I'd bet the farm that the opposite would happen. Trump supporters in Cali and NY didn't show up but Hillary supporters did because Trump's chances in those states was almost zero.
