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What should the BXII do to recruit Nebraska?
To start, don't let up on their leverage. Tell Nebraska they're welcome to play in the BXII this season...under the condition they become permanent BXII members. It's all-or-nothing.

Second, recruit Colorado as a package deal to reunite with its rival. BXII makes more money than the PAC now, and that gap would widen with the BXII adding Colorado-Nebraska.

This is probably the only time the BXII will ever have this window to reel in Nebraska.

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Shatel: Is this the beginning of the end of Nebraska in the Big Ten?

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Quote:This will be the day that changed everything. The shape of universities. The fabric of college football. The strength and charm of so many college towns.

The dominoes are about to fall and they’re going to land on a lot of good people.

And one might happen that we didn’t expect.

Will we remember this as the beginning of the end of Nebraska and the Big Ten?

Absolutely. And the way the Big Ten and Kevin Warren have conducted themselves, that would be a good thing.

The signals were sent initially by Scott Frost on Monday and retransmitted on Tuesday by Frost, NU President Ted Carter, Chancellor Ronnie Green and Athletic Director Bill Moos.

They were received in all corners of the internet world. On Tuesday, I was a guest on a sports talk show in San Francisco.

First question: “Is Nebraska bolting for the Big 12?”

I don’t hear any denials coming out of Lincoln. Or Chicago.

This came up because Frost on Monday said that while NU was a “proud member of the Big Ten,” it was not so proud that it wouldn’t look for other schools to play if the Big Ten shut down this fall.

Frost, along with NU’s top brass, reiterated that intent on Tuesday after the Big Ten’s announcement.

Now, is Nebraska actually going to play any games this fall? Not if every other league is shut down, too. But really, that was beside the point.

That was Nebraska doing more than asserting its displeasure with the Big Ten. It looked like a cry for help, a flare to any other conference that might be paying attention.

Say, one to the south.

You can guarantee it was heard to the north and east — all the way to ESPN, where Northwestern grad Michael Wilbon went on a Nebraska rant. Wilbon accused Nebraska of whining and added, “The Big Ten has operated for 116 seasons, mostly damn successful, without Nebraska ...”

He added that he hoped someone on the Big Ten presidents call told Nebraska to “get the hell out.”

Looks like this shotgun marriage could be on the rocks.
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RE: What should the BXII do to recruit Nebraska?
The Big 12 would be setting itself up for a tortious interference with contracts lawsuit if it issues any kind of formal anything, much less an public ultimatum on membership.

Fans on message boards are always big fans of ultimatums. College sports executives are not guys in the bar, bitching about stuff and bellowing ultimatums between shots.
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RE: What should the BXII do to recruit Nebraska?
Quite unnecessary from the Big Ten's perspective.
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RE: What should the BXII do to recruit Nebraska?
Better question is what should espn do to recruit Nebraska?

1) big 12 invites Nebraska, Arkansas, Florida State and rebrands as SWC
2) LHN becomes SWC network
3)ACC invite West Virginia
4) Big 10 invite Missouri

Works for everyone. ACC might take a little hit but the rebrand SWC with football powers in Texas and Florida would be a great league for ESPN. Could also put South Carolina in the acc and Georgia tech in the sec.
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RE: What should the BXII do to recruit Nebraska?
Have the circumstances that made the Big XII no longer appealing to Nebraska changed? Has the Big XII narrowed the media rights deal with the Big Ten? I get the frustration over not getting to play when you think you can and should but at the same time, there's a difference between working with the Big Ten to allow for a de facto independent schedule and trying to hook up with an old flame because you can't get what you want from your current conference. Are they really willing to crater a relationship with one of the two biggest money-producing conferences in FBS, and the most elite academically, to go back to second row in Texas's choir?
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RE: What should the BXII do to recruit Nebraska?
Nebraska isn't going anywhere but if they think this is smart, I say to them "go get em." Nebraska has been awful and largely uncompetitive on the football field. From a purely financial perspective, the B1G overlooked their poor academics and lack of cable subs because the "national brand" would overcome these issues but their viewership numbers haven't been anything special. If the SEC wants Vandy quality football attached to a fanbase with higher expectations then Alabama, please take them and enjoy the lawsuit unwinding their GOR.

At the end of the day Nebraska isn't going anywhere and this whole public hissy fit is tactically stupid but they are poisoning their relationship with the rest of the conference.
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RE: What should the BXII do to recruit Nebraska?
If another conference (BIG) makes a mistake, the B12 should stay away from the politics between UNL and the BIG. It will be UNL leaders that need to make their long-term decision on conference alignment.

The B12 can allow UNL to play for one season as a member of the B12. This is enough of sweetener that allows UNL to experience the potential benefits of the B12. Chances are that the B12 may need to cancel their season (sometime in the future); also, UNL leaders are still more likely to prefer alignment with the BIG. Similar to Notre Dame and the ACC, this is a unique opportunity to build trust in a win-win manner.

If the B12 demands that UNL permanently switches, the B12 is likely going to suffer more than it gains...bad publicity, acrimony with other conferences, and no switch by UNL.
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RE: What should the BXII do to recruit Nebraska?
The Big 12 payout per school in 2019 was about 38.8 million, and each school can do what they want with their 3rd Tier rights.

The Big 10 paid out 55 million, but with 3rd tier rights included.

If I understand right, OK gets $7 million a year for its 3rd tier rights. Let's assume Nebraska can get a similar number. That means in the Big 12, Nebraska would make 45.8 million compared to 55 million from the Big 10.

But, if the season doesn't happen, that number goes to 0. Let's assume spring football never gets off the ground (as I don't know what the numbers would look like there).

If Nebraska permanently moved to the Big 12 (I'll make it simple in this scenario and say there are no exit fees because of "breach of contract" by the Big 10). Then:

2020: Nebraska makes $45.8 million compared to 0. They also don't lose $120 million, the number Wisconsin tossed out. So, they are $168.8 million ahead.

2021: They are now only $158.8 million ahead.
2022: $148.8
2023: $138.8
2024: $128.8
2025: $118.8
2026: $108.8

But now the Big 12 GOR is open. The addition of Nebraska and possibly X? make the Big 12 worth more, but other schools still have eyes open for other opportunities. If the Big 10 makes a move on say Texas and Kansas, then they will start getting $65-70 million a year. The Big 12 could still try to backfill with say the Arizona schools and Utah, but the $45.8 million number might not rise much or even potentially go down. Now instead of 10 million a year deficit, Nebraska has a a 20 million deficit.

2027: 88.8
2028: 68.8
2029: 48.8
2030: 28.8
2031: 8.8
2032: -11.2
2033: -31.2
2034: -51.2
2035: - 71.2

I know I have used rough numbers, etc. but over the next 15 years Nebraska would lose nearly 70 million if they moved to the Big 12.

As a one year deal, it helps Nebraska and the Big 12, possibly repairs some relationships between the school and the conference, and rehabilitates some rivalries. More than that and it is problematic.
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RE: What should the BXII do to recruit Nebraska?
I stand by comments the Big 12 wouldn't touch Nebraska with a 10 ft pole. If I'm the Big 12 I would set my eyes on the PAC 12 schools Colorado, Utah, or the Arizona schools.
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(08-12-2020 09:13 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  To start, don't let up on their leverage. Tell Nebraska they're welcome to play in the BXII this season...under the condition they become permanent BXII members. It's all-or-nothing.

I would invite them to play in the Big 12 this season, but not try to strong-arm them with an all-nothing threat.

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(08-12-2020 10:26 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  I stand by comments the Big 12 wouldn't touch Nebraska with a 10 ft pole. If I'm the Big 12 I would set my eyes on the PAC 12 schools Colorado, Utah, or the Arizona schools.

You know I'm biased wanting Nebraska out of the Big Ten but from a Big 12 football standpoint Nebraska would be the most valuable Big Ten or Pac 12 team to "borrow" for a year (I'll assume the California schools aren't realistic for geographic reasons). On the other hand, Nebraska would have the most to lose going "rogue". Maybe Colorado, Utah, or one of the Arizona schools wouldn't care if they left the Pac-12 because the Big 12 isn't that much a step down financially (maybe even a step up).
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(08-12-2020 10:34 AM)schmolik Wrote:  
(08-12-2020 10:26 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  I stand by comments the Big 12 wouldn't touch Nebraska with a 10 ft pole. If I'm the Big 12 I would set my eyes on the PAC 12 schools Colorado, Utah, or the Arizona schools.

You know I'm biased wanting Nebraska out of the Big Ten but from a Big 12 football standpoint Nebraska would be the most valuable Big Ten or Pac 12 team to "borrow" for a year (I'll assume the California schools aren't realistic for geographic reasons). On the other hand, Nebraska would have the most to lose going "rogue". Maybe Colorado, Utah, or one of the Arizona schools wouldn't care if they left the Pac-12 because the Big 12 isn't that much a step down financially (maybe even a step up).

It wouldn't benefit the Big 12 at all to borrow or help Nebraska for one year. Nebraska has lost a lot of name cache since they've been in the B1G and now the Big 12 is suppose to bail them out because the grass doesn't appear to greener on the other side?
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(08-12-2020 10:30 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(08-12-2020 09:13 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  To start, don't let up on their leverage. Tell Nebraska they're welcome to play in the BXII this season...under the condition they become permanent BXII members. It's all-or-nothing.

I would invite them to play in the Big 12 this season, but not try to strong-arm them with an all-nothing threat.

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ACC, Big 12 and SEC want to stay away from Nebraska. If they allowed them in for a season? Big 10 will call it interference. Nebraska would be booted, and lose all those dollars. Big 10 commish laid the hammer down on Nebraska.
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RE: What should the BXII do to recruit Nebraska?
The Big XII should treat Nebraska (and Colorado, for that matter) the same way the ACC is going to respond to Maryland and the AAC is going to react to Rutgers —- at best, sending “thoughts and prayers” and publicly wishing them well in their spring football endeavor. That, and snatching the top player from the B1G and Pac-12 who enter the transfer portal —- Baton Rouge is calling you Justin Fields!
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RE: What should the BXII do to recruit Nebraska?
(08-12-2020 10:26 AM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  I stand by comments the Big 12 wouldn't touch Nebraska with a 10 ft pole.

Nebraska has top-10 attendance in football and basketball. BXII will take that back in a heartbeat, especially Oklahoma.
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I'd swing for the fences and send invitations to Nebraska, Colorado, Utah (or BYU) and Arizona.
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(08-12-2020 10:57 AM)NJ2MDTerp Wrote:  I'd swing for the fences and send invitations to Nebraska, Colorado, Utah (or BYU) and Arizona.

I would too. Why not?
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(08-12-2020 11:01 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(08-12-2020 10:57 AM)NJ2MDTerp Wrote:  I'd swing for the fences and send invitations to Nebraska, Colorado, Utah (or BYU) and Arizona.

I would too. Why not?

Not going to happen, and it is too late to transfer anyways.
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RE: What should the BXII do to recruit Nebraska?
The Big XII should treat Nebraska (and Colorado, for that matter) the same way the ACC is going to respond to Maryland and the AAC is going to react to Rutgers —- at best, sending “thoughts and prayers” and publicly wishing them well in their spring football endeavor.
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(08-12-2020 11:03 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  
(08-12-2020 11:01 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  
(08-12-2020 10:57 AM)NJ2MDTerp Wrote:  I'd swing for the fences and send invitations to Nebraska, Colorado, Utah (or BYU) and Arizona.

I would too. Why not?

Not going to happen, and it is too late to transfer anyways.

Probably not, by why not send out the invitations?

You never know, and it would serve the B1G and PAC right for bowing to the covid overreactors.

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