(07-30-2020 02:01 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Stewart Mandel
@slmandel
Theory: Once fans get a taste of a 10-game conference schedule with few or no buy games, they're never going to want to go back.

Think about it: Power 5 schools voluntarily pay directional or FCS schools millions of dollars to play home games their fans don't care about when they could be playing more games against each other for free.

Why? Because that's just the way it's always been.

The reason why this is wrong is because this theory means that the P5 teams will be fine not playing at home for a game every other year to replace that game if the conference slate is expanded. They make a hell of a lot more money from the gate and concessions/parking for those powder puff money games that "nobody cares about" than the actual pay to the body bag team.

(07-30-2020 02:25 PM)otown Wrote:  

(07-30-2020 02:01 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Stewart Mandel
@slmandel
Theory: Once fans get a taste of a 10-game conference schedule with few or no buy games, they're never going to want to go back.

Think about it: Power 5 schools voluntarily pay directional or FCS schools millions of dollars to play home games their fans don't care about when they could be playing more games against each other for free.

Why? Because that's just the way it's always been.

The reason why this is wrong is because this theory means that the P5 teams will be fine not playing at home for a game every other year to replace that game if the conference slate is expanded. They make a hell of a lot more money from the gate and concessions/parking for those powder puff money games that "nobody cares about" than the actual pay to the body bag team.

Yeah really. I'm not sure they are ready to ditch the 7 home games, the money, the big OOC games, or qualifying for bowl season.

(07-30-2020 02:25 PM)otown Wrote:  

(07-30-2020 02:01 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Stewart Mandel
@slmandel
Theory: Once fans get a taste of a 10-game conference schedule with few or no buy games, they're never going to want to go back.

Think about it: Power 5 schools voluntarily pay directional or FCS schools millions of dollars to play home games their fans don't care about when they could be playing more games against each other for free.

Why? Because that's just the way it's always been.

The reason why this is wrong is because this theory means that the P5 teams will be fine not playing at home for a game every other year to replace that game if the conference slate is expanded. They make a hell of a lot more money from the gate and concessions/parking for those powder puff money games that "nobody cares about" than the actual pay to the body bag team.

That's not necessarily true. Even if the ACC went to a 10-game conference schedule they could still schedule two OOC homes every year or 2 for 1's that would guarantee them 7 home games every other year.

(07-30-2020 03:12 PM)HiddenDragon Wrote:  

(07-30-2020 02:25 PM)otown Wrote:  

(07-30-2020 02:01 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Stewart Mandel
@slmandel
Theory: Once fans get a taste of a 10-game conference schedule with few or no buy games, they're never going to want to go back.

Think about it: Power 5 schools voluntarily pay directional or FCS schools millions of dollars to play home games their fans don't care about when they could be playing more games against each other for free.

Why? Because that's just the way it's always been.

The reason why this is wrong is because this theory means that the P5 teams will be fine not playing at home for a game every other year to replace that game if the conference slate is expanded. They make a hell of a lot more money from the gate and concessions/parking for those powder puff money games that "nobody cares about" than the actual pay to the body bag team.

That's not necessarily true. Even if the ACC went to a 10-game conference schedule they could still schedule two OOC homes every year or 2 for 1's that would guarantee them 7 home games every other year.

I'm not a doctor or anything, but 2 OOC home games per year would probably....be buy games.

Quote:The Southeastern Conference will play a 10-game, league-only schedule, according to Sports Illustrated, joining the majority of the other major college football conferences in a decision that cancels non-league games and delays the upcoming season during the coronavirus pandemic.

The league season will reportedly start on Sept. 26. Divisional structure will continue with an SEC championship game on Dec. 19, but league teams will play two more teams from the opposite division to complete the schedule.

https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/...fd843.html

OK, guys. The SEC just announced conference games only. BYU lost another home game - v. Missouri, and the replacement game with Alabama. Time to get BYU to the 2020 AAC going!

(07-30-2020 03:53 PM)YNot Wrote:  OK, guys. The SEC just announced conference games only. BYU lost another home game - v. Missouri, and the replacement game with Alabama. Time to get BYU to the 2020 AAC going!

There you go. Turn a lemon into lemonade.

(07-30-2020 04:08 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(07-30-2020 03:53 PM)YNot Wrote:  OK, guys. The SEC just announced conference games only. BYU lost another home game - v. Missouri, and the replacement game with Alabama. Time to get BYU to the 2020 AAC going!

There you go. Turn a lemon into lemonade.

Saw talk of B12 scooping them this year on another board.




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(07-30-2020 03:53 PM)YNot Wrote:  OK, guys. The SEC just announced conference games only. BYU lost another home game - v. Missouri, and the replacement game with Alabama. Time to get BYU to the AAC as a full member!

FIFY

Quote:Saw talk of B12 scooping them this year on another board.

Not a huge fan of BYU, but they do deserve to be in a P5 league. 60k+ stadium, National Champions with good olympic sports fan base and academics.

I hope they make it in...and UC are #12 of course

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(07-29-2020 04:13 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  

(07-29-2020 04:09 PM)eco challenged Wrote:  UCF loses Georgia Tech and North Carolina. Gone.

Having them on our schedule is a effing curse. Been cancelled so many times!

Hurricane. Pandemic. Wanna go triple or nothing for a meteor?

(07-29-2020 06:37 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  Someone brought up an interesting point on the UCF board... if the SEC cancels non conference, then GT would likely keep the UCF game (It’s @GT), and if Auburn cancels on UNC, we could potentially move the game to Chapel Hill and have them return at a later date.

Must be in state. Look to Tally or Miami or nowhere at all re: ACC games this year.

(07-30-2020 01:16 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  

(07-30-2020 01:14 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  

(07-30-2020 01:01 PM)otown Wrote:  

(07-29-2020 10:27 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  

(07-29-2020 09:56 PM)otown Wrote:  SEC is doing conference only. UCF may not lose UNC or GT

We’d likely have to play @UNC if we want to play them still.

Who cares, this will be a Top 25 opponent and create buzz early in the season. Certainly will be a boost to the SOS. Not like home field is gonna mean much with no fans.

They're not going to keep a game that they could lose. They'll keep the Uconn game, has the same buyout as the UCF game with no chance of losing.

Same with GA Tech, they'll either keep their rivalry game or if the SEC does go conference only as expected they'll play GA State or GA Southern.

With SEC backing out (3 of the ACC-SEC games were @ACC teams and thus part of the ACC television package, a cheeky thing to do), I wouldn't just assume Georgia State will be the replacement. When GT-UCF was cancelled the first time, Georgia State's game was also cancelled by that hurricane (vs FIU/FAU I presume?). GT needed one more game to reach bowl eligibility that year. Georgia State was available and eligible to play a hurricane make up game. They however insisted the game be played at Turner Field. That's a non-starter, a d*ck move, and less revenue for everybody involved than would be generated in Bobby Dodd Stadium or (at the time) The Georgia Dome. So don't look for GT to do Georgia State a solid now that the shoe is on the other foot. **** 'em. Schedule Southern or FCS or bust. I'd rather play Mercer or Kennesaw.

UCF’s games against GT and UNC might be saved due to the SEC going conference only....both their #1 options were SEC teams.

(07-30-2020 05:00 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  UCF’s games against GT and UNC might be saved due to the SEC going conference only....both their #1 options were SEC teams.

UNC would only have a shot if Uconn packs it in for the season. Both games have a buyout of $1.5m, Uconn is already scheduled to play @UNC, guaranteed win during a rebuild. UNC had a very good chance of starting the year 0-2 crushing their morale going into conference play, now they have a real shot at building some momentum and winning the coastal

(07-30-2020 03:53 PM)YNot Wrote:  OK, guys. The SEC just announced conference games only. BYU lost another home game - v. Missouri, and the replacement game with Alabama. Time to get BYU to the 2020 AAC going!

Your posts here are always a welcoming rational POV, but the folks at Brigham Young University in Provo, Utah are the only ones that can make that happen or really initiate that conversation, last I heard, Aresco was willing to listen and all of his attempts at an invite still stand.

(07-30-2020 04:54 PM)bearcat29 Wrote:  

Quote:Saw talk of B12 scooping them this year on another board.

Not a huge fan of BYU, but they do deserve to be in a P5 league. 60k+ stadium, National Champions with good olympic sports fan base and academics.

I hope they make it in...and UC are #12 of course

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UC doesn't have a "60k+ stadium".

(07-30-2020 05:00 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  

(07-29-2020 04:13 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  

(07-29-2020 04:09 PM)eco challenged Wrote:  UCF loses Georgia Tech and North Carolina. Gone.

Having them on our schedule is a effing curse. Been cancelled so many times!

Hurricane. Pandemic. Wanna go triple or nothing for a meteor?

(07-29-2020 06:37 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  Someone brought up an interesting point on the UCF board... if the SEC cancels non conference, then GT would likely keep the UCF game (It’s @GT), and if Auburn cancels on UNC, we could potentially move the game to Chapel Hill and have them return at a later date.

Must be in state. Look to Tally or Miami or nowhere at all re: ACC games this year.

(07-30-2020 01:16 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  

(07-30-2020 01:14 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  

(07-30-2020 01:01 PM)otown Wrote:  

(07-29-2020 10:27 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  We’d likely have to play @UNC if we want to play them still.

Who cares, this will be a Top 25 opponent and create buzz early in the season. Certainly will be a boost to the SOS. Not like home field is gonna mean much with no fans.

They're not going to keep a game that they could lose. They'll keep the Uconn game, has the same buyout as the UCF game with no chance of losing.

Same with GA Tech, they'll either keep their rivalry game or if the SEC does go conference only as expected they'll play GA State or GA Southern.

With SEC backing out (3 of the ACC-SEC games were @ACC teams and thus part of the ACC television package, a cheeky thing to do), I wouldn't just assume Georgia State will be the replacement. When GT-UCF was cancelled the first time, Georgia State's game was also cancelled by that hurricane (vs FIU/FAU I presume?). GT needed one more game to reach bowl eligibility that year. Georgia State was available and eligible to play a hurricane make up game. They however insisted the game be played at Turner Field. That's a non-starter, a d*ck move, and less revenue for everybody involved than would be generated in Bobby Dodd Stadium or (at the time) The Georgia Dome. So don't look for GT to do Georgia State a solid now that the shoe is on the other foot. **** 'em. Schedule Southern or FCS or bust. I'd rather play Mercer or Kennesaw.

I thought if it was a home game you could keep it? That’s what all the UCF sources are saying.

Some serious Twitter accounts are speculating that the Big 12 and BYU are making 'arrangements.'

(07-30-2020 05:13 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  I thought if it was a home game you could keep it? That’s what all the UCF sources are saying.

The ACC's guidelines were clear: Conference only + 1 game which MUST be in state and MUST meet ACC standards for testing/health protocols. The +1 was purely there for the SEC-ACC games, 3 out of 4 of which are in ACC stadiums this year and thus part of the ACC TV package. It's more likely that +1 is thrown away altogether than UCF is somehow magically retained.

(07-30-2020 05:42 PM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  Some serious Twitter accounts are speculating that the Big 12 and BYU are making 'arrangements.'

That's not happening, fox owns half of the big Xii and ESPN owns BYU.

Now the AAC adopting a 9+2 schedule to pick up a few of the lost ACC +1 games makes financial sense.

BYU is about to get left out, the independents are getting locked out with UConn, NM State, and I believe UMass looking at 14 day quarantines from out of state or from certain states like say Utah.

That leaves Liberty and Army (who also currently has the 14 day quarantine for Utah).