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Star Tribune editorial gets it on woke religion
https://www.startribune.com/racial-justi...fresh=true
"...What is unfolding before our eyes is a new secular religion. For all its claims of “inclusivity,” this new faith is deeply intolerant. It has roots in the American past that would likely surprise its adherents: the Puritan era of our nation’s earliest religious zealots. Progressives are now engaged in doing theology without God. “ Woke is the new Saved,” in the words of commentator John Zmirak.
Parallels abound. One of Puritan theology’s core tenets is “innate depravity” — the doctrine that humans are inherently wicked as a result of original sin. The woke faith preaches an updated version: America’s original sin is white supremacy.
For white people, “having racist assumptions is inevitable,” according to Robin DiAngelo, author of the bestselling book “White Fragility.” “Straight white men have been involved in a witness protection program” that “absolves them of their crimes,” she declares.
The Puritans divided humans into the saved and the damned, the saints and the sinners. The woke faith does the same, classifying people as either oppressors (white) or victims (nonwhite).
The new faith’s adherents view themselves as the “elect,” redeemed, as it were, by a predestined grace. They are convinced they possess a higher truth, and are committed to imposing it on others...."
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RE: Star Tribune editorial gets it on woke religion
Yep, and unfortunately it has become a state sponsored religion. We're ******.
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RE: Star Tribune editorial gets it on woke religion
....and, if confronted, I'll tell them where they can stick their new theology. It only has power over you if you appease them, bow down to it or even mouth their slogans. I don't believe in their fantasies and will let them know that.
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RE: Star Tribune editorial gets it on woke religion
(07-26-2020 11:13 PM)bullet Wrote: https://www.startribune.com/racial-justi...fresh=true
"...What is unfolding before our eyes is a new secular religion. For all its claims of “inclusivity,” this new faith is deeply intolerant. It has roots in the American past that would likely surprise its adherents: the Puritan era of our nation’s earliest religious zealots. Progressives are now engaged in doing theology without God. “ Woke is the new Saved,” in the words of commentator John Zmirak.
Parallels abound. One of Puritan theology’s core tenets is “innate depravity” — the doctrine that humans are inherently wicked as a result of original sin. The woke faith preaches an updated version: America’s original sin is white supremacy.
For white people, “having racist assumptions is inevitable,” according to Robin DiAngelo, author of the bestselling book “White Fragility.” “Straight white men have been involved in a witness protection program” that “absolves them of their crimes,” she declares.
The Puritans divided humans into the saved and the damned, the saints and the sinners. The woke faith does the same, classifying people as either oppressors (white) or victims (nonwhite).
The new faith’s adherents view themselves as the “elect,” redeemed, as it were, by a predestined grace. They are convinced they possess a higher truth, and are committed to imposing it on others...."
holy crap. take a minute to read the comments section. these woke fvckers are mentally ill. serioulsy.
so self righteous.
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RE: Star Tribune editorial gets it on woke religion
(07-26-2020 11:13 PM)bullet Wrote: https://www.startribune.com/racial-justi...fresh=true
"...What is unfolding before our eyes is a new secular religion. For all its claims of “inclusivity,” this new faith is deeply intolerant. It has roots in the American past that would likely surprise its adherents: the Puritan era of our nation’s earliest religious zealots. Progressives are now engaged in doing theology without God. “ Woke is the new Saved,” in the words of commentator John Zmirak.
Parallels abound. One of Puritan theology’s core tenets is “innate depravity” — the doctrine that humans are inherently wicked as a result of original sin. The woke faith preaches an updated version: America’s original sin is white supremacy.
For white people, “having racist assumptions is inevitable,” according to Robin DiAngelo, author of the bestselling book “White Fragility.” “Straight white men have been involved in a witness protection program” that “absolves them of their crimes,” she declares.
The Puritans divided humans into the saved and the damned, the saints and the sinners. The woke faith does the same, classifying people as either oppressors (white) or victims (nonwhite).
The new faith’s adherents view themselves as the “elect,” redeemed, as it were, by a predestined grace. They are convinced they possess a higher truth, and are committed to imposing it on others...."
She's coming to the United Methodist Church to spread the word as well.
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RE: Star Tribune editorial gets it on woke religion
Can’t help but notice the #Loonesota hashtag on the front page...
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| 07-28-2020 04:59 AM |
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RE: Star Tribune editorial gets it on woke religion
(07-27-2020 10:08 PM)BEARCATDALE Wrote: (07-26-2020 11:13 PM)bullet Wrote: https://www.startribune.com/racial-justi...fresh=true
"...What is unfolding before our eyes is a new secular religion. For all its claims of “inclusivity,” this new faith is deeply intolerant. It has roots in the American past that would likely surprise its adherents: the Puritan era of our nation’s earliest religious zealots. Progressives are now engaged in doing theology without God. “ Woke is the new Saved,” in the words of commentator John Zmirak.
Parallels abound. One of Puritan theology’s core tenets is “innate depravity” — the doctrine that humans are inherently wicked as a result of original sin. The woke faith preaches an updated version: America’s original sin is white supremacy.
For white people, “having racist assumptions is inevitable,” according to Robin DiAngelo, author of the bestselling book “White Fragility.” “Straight white men have been involved in a witness protection program” that “absolves them of their crimes,” she declares.
The Puritans divided humans into the saved and the damned, the saints and the sinners. The woke faith does the same, classifying people as either oppressors (white) or victims (nonwhite).
The new faith’s adherents view themselves as the “elect,” redeemed, as it were, by a predestined grace. They are convinced they possess a higher truth, and are committed to imposing it on others...."
She's coming to the United Methodist Church to spread the word as well.
The leadership has become far, far left. The rank and file is still mostly centrist. We've accepted that the leadership was liberal because Methodism is a very personal religion. You don't have a Pope or Preacher telling you all the answers. But they are starting to try to force feed their philosophy. And for a lot of them, hatred of "the other" (in this case conservative Christians) is part of their philosophy. Its not a Christian message.
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RE: Star Tribune editorial gets it on woke religion
(07-28-2020 11:10 AM)bullet Wrote: The leadership has become far, far left. The rank and file is still mostly centrist. We've accepted that the leadership was liberal because Methodism is a very personal religion. You don't have a Pope or Preacher telling you all the answers. But they are starting to try to force feed their philosophy. And for a lot of them, hatred of "the other" (in this case conservative Christians) is part of their philosophy. Its not a Christian message.
I'd say the same for the Episcopal Church, except that as the leadership has moved further left the center to center-right rank and file have moved on, leaving a membership that is almost as far left as the clergy. In the last five years, my parish has not had a senior warden (leader of the lay people) who wasn't female or gay or both. I am fine with female clergy. The best comment I have ever heard was, "If women are not supposed to preach the gospel, how come the first three people in history to do it were named Mary, Mary, and Salome?" I am fine with gay members. We had a same-sex wedding between two women, and I voted in favor of having it and attended the wedding. But when it gets to the point that you almost have to be female and/or gay to be in a position of leadership, that has gone too far for my taste. And that's where it has gotten.
The really ironic thing to me is that as the Episcopal Church has tried to become more "inclusive" (in other words, trendy, hip), it has included fewer and fewer members. From around 3 million in the early 1950s, when the population was a lot smaller, it now "includes" around 1.5 million. Members are voting with their feet.
So when churches open back up, I will probably be moving to an Anglican (the conservative breakaway from the Episcopal Church) parish nearby. It's just more in line with my 1950s Diocese of Alabama theology. And that's not racist or sexist or anti-gay. We had Black members in the 1950s and 1960s, and the vice president of our youth group in 1963 was an out gay male.
(This post was last modified: 07-29-2020 08:03 AM by Owl 69/70/75.)
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