The first step in getting the P5 into a position to breakaway is to get all of the teams on the same page.

https://247sports.com/college/north-caro...149235725/

"Joining the Paul Finebaum show on Thursday afternoon, Brown explained that college football needs unity and ultimately a commissioner of the game, like the NFL."

“I really wish we’d have a commissioner of college football. We wouldn’t have different leagues doing different things and so much uncertainty. If we were more uniform and all on the same page ... then we wouldn’t be in the position we are in right now. I think that's something we have to do moving forward. It's never been more obvious that we have to be on the same page.”

We can put some blame on the BIG and then the PAC for not staying on the same page with everyone else. There were some EASY wins that would have provided more cohesion, such as keeping open the consideration of match-ups like Iowa-Iowa State, Penn State-Pitt, and Notre Dame against a handful of BIG schools, especially Purdue and/or Indiana. I just can't buy that the BIG's approach to testing is so far superior to other P5 leagues that they wouldn't leave the door open among intrastate, major rivals. Want to postpone Alabama vs. USC? I get that since it involves many more moving parts than most are comfortable with right now. Why Nebraska vs. Rutgers is allowable but not Nebraska vs. Colorado does not make sense to me under these circumstances. I am an SEC fan and all about conference loyalty and autonomy...in this case, it was a self-imposed failure for the P5 group.

How about this breakaway idea. Pooling football and splitting games across the network partners ESPN/Fox/NBC.

The P5 conferences could keep current conference affiliations. All non-football sports to remain aligned as they are. The football side to be merged into a single conference divided into 7 divisions. Assume that a relatively fair equal sharing model ( 80% equal, 10% bowl game, 10% in sliding scale of TV). Sliding scale for tv payout based on a points system encourages good team, good ratings... TV Prime Time designated games worth 5 pt, primary channels worth 3 pt, secondary channels 2 pt, streaming 1 pt something to that effect.

ND has 3 choices.... all out, get buy in for private division, or play 10 games and chance for playoff. 65 Teams broken into 7 divisions geographically and prior history based.

All teams play 10 games... all in division... remaining games on a 2 year home/home basis that are based on historical rivals or best use of big game match ups.

High stakes poker.... you must win your division. Division winners advance to an eight team playoff. 8th playoff spot is Notre Dame or highest ranked. 28 Bowl games for the remaining 57 teams to split.

8th spot highest ranked

PAC: PAC: USC, UCLA, Stanford, CAL, Oregon, Oregon St., Washington, Washington St., Arizona, Arizona St.

Great Plains: Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Illinois, Northwestern, Nebraska, Colorado, Utah ,Indiana, Purdue,

Great Lakes: Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State, Maryland, Rutgers, West Virginia, BC, Pitt, Syracuse,

SWC: Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, Texas Tech, TCU, Baylor, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State

SEC West: Alabama, Auburn, Mississippi, Mississippi St, Texas AM, LSU, Missouri, Arkansas

SEC East: Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Kentucky, Tennessee, Vandy, Virginia Tech, NCST

ACC: Clemson, Florida St., North Carolina , Virginia, Georgia Tech, Louisville, Miami, Duke, Wake Forest



Notre Dame PVT Division Layout

PAC: UCLA, CAL, Oregon, Oregon St., Washington, Washington St., Arizona, Arizona St.

Great Plains: Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Illinois, Northwestern, Nebraska, Colorado, Utah

Great Lakes: Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Penn State, Indiana, Purdue, Maryland, Rutgers

SWC: Texas, Oklahoma, Oklahoma St, Texas Tech, TCU, Baylor, Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State

SEC West: Alabama, Auburn, Mississippi, Mississippi St, Texas AM, LSU, Missouri, Arkansas

SEC East: Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Kentucky, Tennessee, West Virginia, Vandy, Wake Forest

ACC: Clemson, Florida St., Virginia Tech, North Carolina, NCST, Virginia, Georgia Tech, Louisville

PVT: Notre Dame, USC, Stanford, BC, Miami, Pitt, Syracuse, Duke

Mack Brown is living in fantasyland.

Go ahead, name one person (or more if you like) who would be trusted by every P5 conference to fairly represent the interests of all of their schools.

Conference commissioners are easier to pick -- you only need a consensus among 10-14 relatively like-minded schools, and if things change enough you can fire that commissioner with the same consensus. Not to mention that you have much less to worry about with a conference commissioner because he has much less power than Mack's hypothetical commissioner who would rule over the entire sport of college football.

(07-17-2020 06:37 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Mack Brown is living in fantasyland.

Go ahead, name one person (or more if you like) who would be trusted by every P5 conference to fairly represent the interests of all of their schools.

Conference commissioners are easier to pick -- you only need a consensus among 10-14 relatively like-minded schools, and if things change enough you can fire that commissioner with the same consensus. Not to mention that you have much less to worry about with a conference commissioner because he has much less power than Mack's hypothetical commissioner who would rule over the entire sport of college football.

Chuck Neinas. But he's too old.

CFB is unique. Which is CFB biggest asset

(07-17-2020 07:33 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(07-17-2020 06:37 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Mack Brown is living in fantasyland.

Go ahead, name one person (or more if you like) who would be trusted by every P5 conference to fairly represent the interests of all of their schools.

Conference commissioners are easier to pick -- you only need a consensus among 10-14 relatively like-minded schools, and if things change enough you can fire that commissioner with the same consensus. Not to mention that you have much less to worry about with a conference commissioner because he has much less power than Mack's hypothetical commissioner who would rule over the entire sport of college football.

Chuck Neinas. But he's too old.

Neinas could have done it 20 or 30 years ago, yeah. If the commissioner was someone who is just an ambitious glad-hander, like Mark Emmert, he couldn't maintain credibility while making tough decisions that not everyone would like. And if it was someone whose entire career has been working in one conference or in one area of the country, it would be too difficult for him to convince everyone else that he's not biased toward the place where he has a lot of ties.

It would have to be someone who is both well respected and has worked with "power" athletic departments in different areas of the country, so that many people from different conferences could vouch for him as a straight shooter. Even for someone that well qualified, it would be a thankless job.

How about a 3 person board of governors of Slive, Delaney, and some other revered CFB figure?

(07-17-2020 08:48 PM)Wedge Wrote:  

(07-17-2020 07:33 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(07-17-2020 06:37 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Mack Brown is living in fantasyland.

Go ahead, name one person (or more if you like) who would be trusted by every P5 conference to fairly represent the interests of all of their schools.

Conference commissioners are easier to pick -- you only need a consensus among 10-14 relatively like-minded schools, and if things change enough you can fire that commissioner with the same consensus. Not to mention that you have much less to worry about with a conference commissioner because he has much less power than Mack's hypothetical commissioner who would rule over the entire sport of college football.

Chuck Neinas. But he's too old.

Neinas could have done it 20 or 30 years ago, yeah. If the commissioner was someone who is just an ambitious glad-hander, like Mark Emmert, he couldn't maintain credibility while making tough decisions that not everyone would like. And if it was someone whose entire career has been working in one conference or in one area of the country, it would be too difficult for him to convince everyone else that he's not biased toward the place where he has a lot of ties.

It would have to be someone who is both well respected and has worked with "power" athletic departments in different areas of the country, so that many people from different conferences could vouch for him as a straight shooter. Even for someone that well qualified, it would be a thankless job.

Or Somebody who hasn't been really associated with any particular conference, but is respected by most, like Swarbrick.

(07-17-2020 06:37 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Mack Brown is living in fantasyland.

Go ahead, name one person (or more if you like) who would be trusted by every P5 conference to fairly represent the interests of all of their schools.

Conference commissioners are easier to pick -- you only need a consensus among 10-14 relatively like-minded schools, and if things change enough you can fire that commissioner with the same consensus. Not to mention that you have much less to worry about with a conference commissioner because he has much less power than Mack's hypothetical commissioner who would rule over the entire sport of college football.

Why would you say that?
All Mack is looking for is consistency through out all of college football especially at the P5 level.

(07-17-2020 09:52 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  How about a 3 person board of governors of Slive, Delaney, and some other revered CFB figure?

Slive has passed. Oliver Luck comes to mind now that he is available again.

Dan Beebe anyone?

(07-19-2020 10:05 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(07-17-2020 06:37 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Mack Brown is living in fantasyland.

Go ahead, name one person (or more if you like) who would be trusted by every P5 conference to fairly represent the interests of all of their schools.

Conference commissioners are easier to pick -- you only need a consensus among 10-14 relatively like-minded schools, and if things change enough you can fire that commissioner with the same consensus. Not to mention that you have much less to worry about with a conference commissioner because he has much less power than Mack's hypothetical commissioner who would rule over the entire sport of college football.

Why would you say that?
All Mack is looking for is consistency through out all of college football especially at the P5 level.

Chip Brown was talking about college football talking about realigning the top schools into 6 eleven team conferences a number of years back. He must have been getting that from Mack.

(07-21-2020 11:40 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(07-19-2020 10:05 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(07-17-2020 06:37 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Mack Brown is living in fantasyland.

Go ahead, name one person (or more if you like) who would be trusted by every P5 conference to fairly represent the interests of all of their schools.

Conference commissioners are easier to pick -- you only need a consensus among 10-14 relatively like-minded schools, and if things change enough you can fire that commissioner with the same consensus. Not to mention that you have much less to worry about with a conference commissioner because he has much less power than Mack's hypothetical commissioner who would rule over the entire sport of college football.

Why would you say that?
All Mack is looking for is consistency through out all of college football especially at the P5 level.

Chip Brown was talking about college football talking about realigning the top schools into 6 eleven team conferences a number of years back. He must have been getting that from Mack.

U give FCB too much credit.. He was drunk and paranoid of unpaid gambling debts when he wrote that.

(07-21-2020 11:40 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(07-19-2020 10:05 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(07-17-2020 06:37 PM)Wedge Wrote:  Mack Brown is living in fantasyland.

Go ahead, name one person (or more if you like) who would be trusted by every P5 conference to fairly represent the interests of all of their schools.

Conference commissioners are easier to pick -- you only need a consensus among 10-14 relatively like-minded schools, and if things change enough you can fire that commissioner with the same consensus. Not to mention that you have much less to worry about with a conference commissioner because he has much less power than Mack's hypothetical commissioner who would rule over the entire sport of college football.

Why would you say that?
All Mack is looking for is consistency through out all of college football especially at the P5 level.

Chip Brown was talking about college football talking about realigning the top schools into 6 eleven team conferences a number of years back. He must have been getting that from Mack.

I found a link where you can see his divisions but the bad news is once you click on it it shows for a few seconds and then goes back to 247sports.com. It's as if the site won't let you read it anymore. Does anyone here have those divisions?

https://247sports.com/college/texas/Arti...105225357/

Here is my 6 by 11 realignment plan previously posted here:

Big Ten: Boston College, Syracuse, Penn State, Pittsburgh, Rutgers, Maryland, Virginia, Virginia Tech, Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State

ACC: North Carolina, Duke, NC State, Wake Forest, Clemson, South Carolina, Kentucky, Louisville, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, West Virginia

SEC: Florida, Florida State, Miami, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Alabama, Auburn, Mississippi, Mississippi State, LSU, Arkansas

Great Midwest (lack of a better name): Indiana, Purdue, Notre Dame, Illinois, Northwestern, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Iowa, Iowa State, Missouri

Big 12: Texas, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, TCU, Baylor, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Arizona, Arizona State, Kansas, Kansas State, Nebraska

Pac: UCLA, USC, California, Stanford, Washington, Washington State, Oregon, Oregon State, Utah, BYU, Colorado