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RE: Tracking the return of JMU sports (no discussions of validity of covid pandemic)
(07-17-2020 05:52 PM)Purple Wrote:  
(07-17-2020 02:56 PM)JMad03 Wrote:  
(07-17-2020 02:26 PM)JMURocks Wrote:  

Per Madia on Twitter:
"Cignetti on potential schedule: " think in the ideal situation, we're looking at multiple FBS games and then filling in with FCS"'

FBS first, THEN FCS.
I would like to think this is a big statement, but it could be nothing more than making the most of a situation. It certainly doesn't speak to a program that is happy as an FCS program.
This is at the least and opportunity to make a statement and a big one. If JMU could prove on the field that they can hang with FBS programs week in and week out, the AAC could come calling.
We may not have to go Indy to prove ourselves. We could do it this season.

WOW! A glimmer of pure awesomeness! I love that!

If they are focusing on FBS first then FCS, then why is the season dependent on FCS playoffs?
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(07-17-2020 06:20 PM)Top Dawg Wrote:  If they are focusing on FBS first then FCS, then why is the season dependent on FCS playoffs?

I think it's an easy talking point that reflects your culture and boosts your recruiting, "At JMU we play for championships and if a championship is happening we want to be part of it." It also absolves you of responsibility for making the decision to cancel or postpone, "You know, we really wanted to go out there and compete for a championship, but they just didn't give us a chance."

I have to believe they have their finger on the pulse of whether the NCAA is going to cancel fall championships, a decision which should be made really soon. Remember, the FCS playoffs and NC are run by the NCAA, the CFP is not. That's why you'll likely see different outcomes for P5 vs. the rest of college football.
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As much as I doubt there will be any playoffs, if there are I highly doubt they'll do a 24 team field. Maybe 8 or even 4.
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(07-17-2020 02:37 PM)Longhorn Wrote:  HQ at JMU sports sent out a mass email today informing Duke fans (I’m assuming season ticket holders) that the original 2020 Fall FB schedule is kaput, and that they’ll be in touch about any new schedule should one be developed.

Also shared that MBB and WBB schedules are still good as originally printed, but may also be changed.

Stay tuned.

My bet is the NCAA cancels FCS post-season playoffs, and hence JMU will cancel FB this Fall.


If available, tickets for the abbreviated fall season will be sold on a single-game basis with access being determined by Duke Club priority and season ticket holder status. Additional single-game ticket information, including an on-sale dates and priority deadlines, will be made available once the new schedule is confirmed.
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(07-17-2020 06:49 PM)DoubleDDuke Wrote:  As much as I doubt there will be any playoffs, if there are I highly doubt they'll do a 24 team field. Maybe 8 or even 4.

I’d be happy with any size field, as long as we make the cut! The tricky part would be what do you do with conference auto bids? Toss them all out and just make everything at large selections? If there are auto bids I can’t see it shrinking smaller than 16. Maybe eliminate that first round junk.
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(07-17-2020 05:42 PM)Wear Purple Wrote:  I'm not worried. It's all a hoax. This is all going to go away when the weather warms up. Or, is it now cools down? I dunno. I get so confused on that. Of course, that is kind of contradictory I admit because if it is a "hoax" then what is there to go away when the weather warms up? But, I'm a part of the ignorant cult and I'll go along with my ignorant cult leader.

Just do what I do. Every day, I've continued to mix and drink me a Cloroxtini. I follow by shoving an anal probe up my rectum and use UV light rays to kill any potential COVID germs. And then, I get my daily shot of hydroxychloroquine. I mean, if it's a hoax and it's going to go away when the weather warms up, then why do I need all this drinking, anal probing and shooting up some 6-syllable drug like a heroine addict every day? I know why. Because I'm an ignorant fool who follows a con man and I have painted myself into a corner I refuse to come out of.

And, before I go with this advice. Black folks need to stop protesting about being killed. There are more important things to protest about...like having to wear a mask or freedom to get a haircut. You know, super important stuff like that. Sheesh.

04-cheers

Cool. Another thread ****** up by politics. Thanks
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(07-17-2020 07:48 PM)Polish Hammer Wrote:  If available, tickets for the abbreviated fall season will be sold on a single-game basis with access being determined by Duke Club priority and season ticket holder status. Additional single-game ticket information, including an on-sale dates and priority deadlines, will be made available once the new schedule is confirmed.

Exactly what I thought might happen. If the season goes forward, single game tickets may be in high demand and hard to come by. We might have fewer home games as well as reduced capacity.
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It's an old and tired response. I'll just ignore it because it's not worth responding.
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The SWAC votes on Monday...
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(07-17-2020 08:01 PM)s2dsayer Wrote:  Cool. Another thread ****** up by politics. Thanks

Well when you have the President of the United States politicizing a pandemic.......
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(07-18-2020 08:41 AM)mainejeff Wrote:  
(07-17-2020 08:01 PM)s2dsayer Wrote:  Cool. Another thread ****** up by politics. Thanks

Well when you have the President of the United States politicizing a pandemic.......

In case you missed it- there’s a concerted effort to stay away from the political BS. Obviously, some didn’t get the memo. Please go to the Off Topic threads. Go Dukes.
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(07-17-2020 06:31 PM)DukeDogNation Wrote:  
(07-17-2020 06:20 PM)Top Dawg Wrote:  If they are focusing on FBS first then FCS, then why is the season dependent on FCS playoffs?

I think it's an easy talking point that reflects your culture and boosts your recruiting, "At JMU we play for championships and if a championship is happening we want to be part of it." It also absolves you of responsibility for making the decision to cancel or postpone, "You know, we really wanted to go out there and compete for a championship, but they just didn't give us a chance."

I have to believe they have their finger on the pulse of whether the NCAA is going to cancel fall championships, a decision which should be made really soon. Remember, the FCS playoffs and NC are run by the NCAA, the CFP is not. That's why you'll likely see different outcomes for P5 vs. the rest of college football.

https://richmond.com/sports/college/scho...eb9d6.html

Bourne Said
“And as long as the NCAA still provides those [fall] championships, national championships, we’re going to try to have our teams be in a position to be able to compete.”
JMU is interested in competing in the fall. Should the fall championships move to spring, JMU would play in the spring.

So I guess this means that if the championships
are in the fall---JMU will play in the fall.
If they're in the spring---JMU will play in the spring

But if there are NO championships at all---Will JMU still play??
If they are able to put together an FBS/FCS hybrid schedule---I would hope they will play, irregardless of Championships

To me the key words are 'Championships" "National Championships"---not playoff or postseason.
If the NCCA reduces the postseason, to a true Final 4 or even a Final 2 type Championship---I would hope that would be a sufficient model for JMU.
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I like the fact that we are pursuing options, including FBS matchups. That said, it's hard enough to win those games ordinarily, due to the scholarship difference (depth). That difference could get even more magnified though, if players are forced to sit out due to a positive test. The impact of losing a starter is more pronounced at our level than the big boys.
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(07-18-2020 08:41 AM)mainejeff Wrote:  
(07-17-2020 08:01 PM)s2dsayer Wrote:  Cool. Another thread ****** up by politics. Thanks

Well when you have the President of the United States politicizing a pandemic.......

Piss off, troll! We are trying very hard to keep politics out of our sports threads. Go bore all seven Maine fans with your horsesh!t.
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If you’re not playing for a conference championship, and you’re not playing for a playoffs/national championship, and you’re not playing for a bowl game, then what are you playing for?

I WOULDN’T have made the blanket statement only will play if there’s a playoffs. Here's my armchair QB plan:
-Try to get 4 G5/P5 games scheduled & a ½ doz or so FCS. Would tell the G5/P5 you will play those games REGARDLESS of the playoffs. Tell the FCS that you will play them as long as there are playoffs.

-If the playoffs are cancelled, then you ditch the FCS games. No point in playing them. Still play the 4 G5/P5 games in a 4 game exhibition type season. The NCAA allows players to play up to 4 games a season and not burn a redshirt or lose a season of eligibility.

-If there's a shortened Spring season with playoffs (doubtful), then no one burned a redshirt or season of eligibility in the Fall playing 4 G5/P5 games, and you play in the Spring. More football. Yeah!

-If there’s no Spring season, and no more football until 2021 season, then no one burned a redshirt or season of eligibility this Fall playing 4 G5/P5 games. At least you got 4 games in vs the big boys. Maybe get a win or 2 or 3. Yeah!

-And if some or all of the 4 FBS games were cancelled, and no football until late summer 2021, oh well, JMU tried, no one burned a redshirt or season of eligibility Fall.
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It's a good question. If we can put together a schedule that is similar to what was discussed in the other thread (or at least half FBS) and we can be successful with it, it should prove that we can compete at higher levels and should be a consideration for the next impending realignment round. If this talk of regionalizing conferences is true, we can move ourselves to the mind of more casual observers of college sports, like ESPN.
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With the elimination of much of college football viewing inventory and since the CAA is not playing games Flosports has no claim to exclusivity of JMU productions; therefore JMU may be able to establish some media creds and market games to whomever. This may be the opportunity of a lifetime to cash in on the JMU football product and showcase the readiness for a FBS conference invite that works or even better the mythical new FBS conference.
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(07-18-2020 02:02 PM)AllForDukes Wrote:  With the elimination of much of college football viewing inventory and since the CAA is not playing games Flosports has no claim to exclusivity of JMU productions; therefore JMU may be able to establish some media creds and market games to whomever. This may be the opportunity of a lifetime to cash in on the JMU football product and showcase the readiness for a FBS conference invite that works or even better the mythical new FBS conference.

Yes. Earlier in this thread I brought up the concept that conferences like the Sun Belt, just for example, might sit back and say to themselves "if these P5's start shutting things down, this opens up a ton of TV opportunities on Saturdays on ESPN's and FOX's multiple channel platforms". Anybody who believes these decision makers are considering safety are naive, IMO. This is the same as it has always been about...money.
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Interesting...

...the Canadian government has denied the Toronto Blue Jays to play home baseball games in this upcoming 60-game schedule.

The US-Canadian border remains closed for non-essential travel until Aug. 21.

The Jays were originally set to open at home on July 29 against the Nats.

Toronto's spring training home is in Dunedin, Florida. Perhaps they will play "home" games there? We'll see.

Coronavirus cases continue to surge in the U.S., while Canada has pretty much flattened their curve.

Side note, the NHL will host 2 "bubbles" to continue its season in both Toronto and Edmonton, but that is a little different in the sense that it doesn't involve constant cross-border traveling. Well, at least that's the theory. Take it FWIW.
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(07-18-2020 01:24 PM)BDKJMU Wrote:  If you’re not playing for a conference championship, and you’re not playing for a playoffs/national championship, and you’re not playing for a bowl game, then what are you playing for?

I WOULDN’T have made the blanket statement only will play if there’s a playoffs. Here's my armchair QB plan:
-Try to get 4 G5/P5 games scheduled & a ½ doz or so FCS. Would tell the G5/P5 you will play those games REGARDLESS of the playoffs. Tells the FCS that you will play them as long as there are payoffs.

-If the playoffs are cancelled, then you ditch the FCS games. No point in playing them. Still play the 4 G5/P5 games in a 4 game exhibition type season. The NCAA allows players to play up to 4 games a season and not burn a redshirt or lose a season of eligibility.

-If there's a shortened Spring season with playoffs (doubtful), then no one burned a redshirt or season of eligibility in the Fall playing 4 G5/P5 games, and you play in the Spring. More football. Yeah!

-If there’s no Spring season, and no more football until 2021 season, then no one burned a redshirt or season of eligibility in this Fall playing 4 G5/P5 games. At least you got 4 games in vs the big boys. Maybe get a win or 2 or 3. Yeah!

-And if some or all of the 4 FBS games were cancelled, and no football until late summer 2021, oh well, JMU tried, no one burned a redshirt or season of eligibility in this Fall.

Now that is a GREAT plan. Makes perfect sense. I love how you came up with a plan to protect player eligibility and redshirt seasons. And think of the exposure this program would get
I hope you work in the JMU Athletic Department...And that is not a Lol
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