(07-09-2020 04:34 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  I'd invite BYU to the AAC to play in our conference schedule. But obviously in exchange for permanent FB-only membership. At worst, I'd probably agree to a Notre Dame-like deal with BYU playing 6 AAC games and participating in the AAC bowl pool.

The MWC wouldn’t even allow them to do this

(07-09-2020 04:43 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(07-09-2020 04:34 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  I'd invite BYU to the AAC to play in our conference schedule. But obviously in exchange for permanent FB-only membership. At worst, I'd probably agree to a Notre Dame-like deal with BYU playing 6 AAC games and participating in the AAC bowl pool.

The MWC wouldn’t even allow them to do this

Well yeah, because the MWC wants them back as a full member. I think it helps us get some better bowls than the **** we have like Boca right now.

(07-09-2020 03:20 PM)TDenverFan Wrote:  Double round robin between the 6 of them?

I could see BYU working something out with the MWC/Big 12/PAC 12, the big 10 is rumored to be allowing 1 P5 OOC game.

Maybe the others try to find a similar deal, Army/UConn/UMass play MAC opponents, Liberty plays Sun Belt teams, and NMSU is maybe offered something by the MWC?

Liberty could actually be in a tougher spot, if Falwell continues to try to defy the state's orders.

That's an interesting idea.

(07-09-2020 04:34 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  I'd invite BYU to the AAC to play in our conference schedule. But obviously in exchange for permanent FB-only membership. At worst, I'd probably agree to a Notre Dame-like deal with BYU playing 6 AAC games and participating in the AAC bowl pool.

I could see a scheduling agreement for BYU with the AAC if they start struggling to get the games needed for scheduling. With 6 AAC games and the Utah/Utah State games. That's an 8 game schedule and makes it a lot easier for BYU to keep it up.

(07-09-2020 03:57 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(07-09-2020 03:50 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(07-09-2020 03:49 PM)stever20 Wrote:  will anyone be able to play this year?

The SEC will play

I don't think that's a lock at all right now.

Well, yeah, with the epidemic out of control in Florida and Texas and looking danger of being out of control in South Carolina, Alabama and Louisiana, they might have to do an "Island" approach and move all of the teams and staff to Mississippi.

Not sure what their plan B will be when the epidemic starts running out of control in Mississippi.

(07-10-2020 12:26 AM)BruceMcF Wrote:  

(07-09-2020 03:57 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(07-09-2020 03:50 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(07-09-2020 03:49 PM)stever20 Wrote:  will anyone be able to play this year?

The SEC will play

I don't think that's a lock at all right now.

Well, yeah, with the epidemic out of control in Florida and Texas and looking danger of being out of control in South Carolina, Alabama and Louisiana, they might have to do an "Island" approach and move all of the teams and staff to Mississippi.

Not sure what their plan B will be when the epidemic starts running out of control in Mississippi.

26 legislators just tested positive for Covid (1 out of 7).

Among those testing positive in the heavily Republican body are the GOP presiding officers, House Speaker Philip Gunn and Lt. Governor Delbert Hosemann.


https://triblive.com/news/mississippi-se...gislature/

(07-09-2020 04:34 PM)CitrusUCF Wrote:  I'd invite BYU to the AAC to play in our conference schedule. But obviously in exchange for permanent FB-only membership. At worst, I'd probably agree to a Notre Dame-like deal with BYU playing 6 AAC games and participating in the AAC bowl pool.

Due to Navy's membership in the AAC, I'd like to see them ensure that Army had a season this year (assuming anyone has a season this year).

I would think that Notre Dame, BYU, Army, UCONN, UMASS, LIBERTY, New Mexico State could schedule with each other if they wanted to replace canx games....

(07-09-2020 04:10 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(07-09-2020 04:04 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(07-09-2020 03:58 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(07-09-2020 03:45 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(07-09-2020 03:43 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  The ACC is cancelling non conference games too. However, they are taking care of Notre Dame.

I expect at least 6 ACC teams will be looking for an extra game.

The ACC only has 8 conference games

They’ll just play more ACC opponents. 15 of them this year counting ND.

They could do that If ND counts in the conference standings. Can't have some with 8 league games and some with 9. Not sure if they would do that. We'll see. The extra game vs ND or a 9th ACC game could also be a no count game.

Exactly like Wake vs NCSU. Make a no count game.

Frankly for bowl eligibility...I would not mind playing one G5 game

With no FB season there will be no bowl season unless the bowl season is used to kick off the spring season substituted for the fall season.

(07-10-2020 07:49 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  I would think that Notre Dame, BYU, Army, UCONN, UMASS, LIBERTY, New Mexico State could schedule with each other if they wanted to replace canx games....

ND will be fine. The rest screwed.

(07-09-2020 03:38 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Looking at BYU’s schedule this year...they are screwed.

There will likely be some scrambling and last-minute moves, for sure.

Looking at the MWC OOC HOME schedules, the MWC will be shuffling to find adequate replacements to salvage value in their TV deal.

Here are MWC OOC *HOME* games that could be on the chopping block:

FLORIDA STATE at Boise State
UCLA at SDSU
UCLA at Hawaii
CAL at UNLV
ARIZONA STATE at UNLV
UTAH at Wyoming
COLORADO at Colorado State
WASHINGTON STATE at Utah State

I don't think the MWC goes all-conference games if they can avoid it.

And, 2 or 3 BYU at MWC games would go a long way to help the MWC to salvage value for their media contract.

Looking at the various schedules, and assuming BYU loses ALL of its games against P5 opponents, I could see BYU keep its existing games with Utah State, Boise State, and SDSU and also add 2 or 3 other MWC opponents.

The other available independents fill out the schedule.

So, - assuming a 10-game season, BYU's schedule could look something like this:

*New Mexico State
*at UNLV
*UMass
*at Wyoming
Utah State
at Boise State
*at UConn
San Diego State
*Army
*at Liberty

That's much better than a double round-robin amongst the independents and especially better than no schedule at all.

Same-season home-away matchups might make more sense for UConn, UMass, Liberty and Army, just because of proximity. But, there may be other options from all the schools scrambling to fill holes after they get dropped from P5 teams' schedules.

The irony in all of this is that most of the above-listed PAC at MWC games are CLOSER in proximity than in-conference PAC games that likely replace them.

If the assumption is that ALL conferences move to conference games only, with an exception that teams who have less than 9 conference games keep 1 non-FCS game to get to 9 total games (if games are going to be played I would think having a contract matters still), then this is how BYU's schedule breaks down:

Cancelled games:
9/3 - @ Utah (only 45 miles away???)
9/12 - Michigan State
9/19 - @ Arizona State
9/26 - @ Minnesota
10/10 - Missouri
11/21 - North Alabama (FCS)
11/28 - @ Stanford

So the remaining schedule is:
10/2 - Utah State
10/16 - Houston
10/24 - @ Northern Illinois
11/7 - @ Boise State
11/14 - San Diego State

Right off the bat, I'd say Utah State (losing Washington State, Southern Utah, and @ Washington) and Northern Illinois (losing Rhode Island, @ Maryland, and @ Iowa) keep BYU on the schedule as their 9th game.

The other opponents get tricky. If the idea is to reduce travel, then the options become more clear:
Houston - keeps one of Rice, North Texas, and @ BYU - BYU is the farthest away so the Houston - BYU game gets dropped.
Boise State - keeps one of Georgia Southern, @ Marshall, and BYU - BYU is closest so they keep BYU.
San Diego State - keeps one of @ Toledo or @ BYU - BYU is closest so they keep BYU.

So BYU has Utah State and San Diego State in Provo with Northern Illinois and Boise State on the road and needs 5 more games. There is 5 non-Notre Dame indys that are not on BYU's schedule already--but that would create a very poor SOS (Army, Liberty, New Mexico State, UConn, UMass) so that would be a last resort. The complicated trickle down effect of the 8-conference-game conferences and what they do with games will determine what this all ends up looking like for the independents. The non-Notre Dame/BYU independents play LOTS of G5 games so that makes it especially hard to predict.

Before G5 conferences get down to 9 games, Army has 9 games, Liberty has 7, New Mexico State has 10, UConn has 7, and UMass has 5 on their schedules. If they cancel games to get down to 9, who knows what this will look like.

(07-10-2020 08:01 AM)panite Wrote:  

(07-09-2020 04:10 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(07-09-2020 04:04 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(07-09-2020 03:58 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  

(07-09-2020 03:45 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  They’ll just play more ACC opponents. 15 of them this year counting ND.

They could do that If ND counts in the conference standings. Can't have some with 8 league games and some with 9. Not sure if they would do that. We'll see. The extra game vs ND or a 9th ACC game could also be a no count game.

Exactly like Wake vs NCSU. Make a no count game.

Frankly for bowl eligibility...I would not mind playing one G5 game

With no FB season there will be no bowl season unless the bowl season is used to kick off the spring season substituted for the fall season.

Exploding Heads throughout the CSNBBS family of freaks

(07-10-2020 10:54 AM)YNot Wrote:  

(07-09-2020 03:38 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Looking at BYU’s schedule this year...they are screwed.

There will likely be some scrambling and last-minute moves, for sure.

Looking at the MWC OOC HOME schedules, the MWC will be shuffling to find adequate replacements to salvage value in their TV deal.

Here are MWC OOC *HOME* games that could be on the chopping block:

FLORIDA STATE at Boise State
UCLA at SDSU
UCLA at Hawaii
CAL at UNLV
ARIZONA STATE at UNLV
UTAH at Wyoming
COLORADO at Colorado State
WASHINGTON STATE at Utah State

I don't think the MWC goes all-conference games if they can avoid it.

And, 2 or 3 BYU at MWC games would go a long way to help the MWC to salvage value for their media contract.

Looking at the various schedules, and assuming BYU loses ALL of its games against P5 opponents, I could see BYU keep its existing games with Utah State, Boise State, and SDSU and also add 2 or 3 other MWC opponents.

The other available independents fill out the schedule.

So, - assuming a 10-game season, BYU's schedule could look something like this:

*New Mexico State
*at UNLV
*UMass
*at Wyoming
Utah State
at Boise State
*at UConn
San Diego State
*Army
*at Liberty

That's much better than a double round-robin amongst the independents and especially better than no schedule at all.

Same-season home-away matchups might make more sense for UConn, UMass, Liberty and Army, just because of proximity. But, there may be other options from all the schools scrambling to fill holes after they get dropped from P5 teams' schedules.

The irony in all of this is that most of the above-listed PAC at MWC games are CLOSER in proximity than in-conference PAC games that likely replace them.

Good post.
PAC/MWC/BYU could work together and have a season.

(07-10-2020 01:05 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(07-10-2020 10:54 AM)YNot Wrote:  

(07-09-2020 03:38 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Looking at BYU’s schedule this year...they are screwed.

There will likely be some scrambling and last-minute moves, for sure.

Looking at the MWC OOC HOME schedules, the MWC will be shuffling to find adequate replacements to salvage value in their TV deal.

Here are MWC OOC *HOME* games that could be on the chopping block:

FLORIDA STATE at Boise State
UCLA at SDSU
UCLA at Hawaii
CAL at UNLV
ARIZONA STATE at UNLV
UTAH at Wyoming
COLORADO at Colorado State
WASHINGTON STATE at Utah State

I don't think the MWC goes all-conference games if they can avoid it.

And, 2 or 3 BYU at MWC games would go a long way to help the MWC to salvage value for their media contract.

Looking at the various schedules, and assuming BYU loses ALL of its games against P5 opponents, I could see BYU keep its existing games with Utah State, Boise State, and SDSU and also add 2 or 3 other MWC opponents.

The other available independents fill out the schedule.

So, - assuming a 10-game season, BYU's schedule could look something like this:

*New Mexico State
*at UNLV
*UMass
*at Wyoming
Utah State
at Boise State
*at UConn
San Diego State
*Army
*at Liberty

That's much better than a double round-robin amongst the independents and especially better than no schedule at all.

Same-season home-away matchups might make more sense for UConn, UMass, Liberty and Army, just because of proximity. But, there may be other options from all the schools scrambling to fill holes after they get dropped from P5 teams' schedules.

The irony in all of this is that most of the above-listed PAC at MWC games are CLOSER in proximity than in-conference PAC games that likely replace them.

Good post.
PAC/MWC/BYU could work together and have a season.

The sticking point to me is how do you get out of a contracted game to just pick up a newly scheduled game? If you use the COVID-19 act of God out clause, then turn around and schedule someone else instead that may be as close or further away and may or may not be in a safer part of the country, I'd think people would want you to pay cancellation fees for those games rather than just let it go.

BYU is more likely to cut a deal with the Pac-12 and MWC to get game sin. Utah State, Utah, Boise State, Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Colorado State, Air Force, Nevada and UNLV are all within reasonable range. Tom Holmoe is also well liked and I expect both Thompson and Scott will entertain his calls.

(07-09-2020 03:43 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  The ACC is cancelling non conference games too. However, they are taking care of Notre Dame.

I expect at least 6 ACC teams will be looking for an extra game.

The ACC only has 8 conference games

Louisville, Clemson, GT, and FSU should all play their instate OOC rivals.

The other 10 should play ND.

Wouldn’t it be ironic if ND won its first football conference championship on a COVID schedule?

(07-10-2020 01:22 PM)f1do Wrote:  

(07-10-2020 01:05 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  

(07-10-2020 10:54 AM)YNot Wrote:  

(07-09-2020 03:38 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  Looking at BYU’s schedule this year...they are screwed.

There will likely be some scrambling and last-minute moves, for sure.

Looking at the MWC OOC HOME schedules, the MWC will be shuffling to find adequate replacements to salvage value in their TV deal.

Here are MWC OOC *HOME* games that could be on the chopping block:

FLORIDA STATE at Boise State
UCLA at SDSU
UCLA at Hawaii
CAL at UNLV
ARIZONA STATE at UNLV
UTAH at Wyoming
COLORADO at Colorado State
WASHINGTON STATE at Utah State

I don't think the MWC goes all-conference games if they can avoid it.

And, 2 or 3 BYU at MWC games would go a long way to help the MWC to salvage value for their media contract.

Looking at the various schedules, and assuming BYU loses ALL of its games against P5 opponents, I could see BYU keep its existing games with Utah State, Boise State, and SDSU and also add 2 or 3 other MWC opponents.

The other available independents fill out the schedule.

So, - assuming a 10-game season, BYU's schedule could look something like this:

*New Mexico State
*at UNLV
*UMass
*at Wyoming
Utah State
at Boise State
*at UConn
San Diego State
*Army
*at Liberty

That's much better than a double round-robin amongst the independents and especially better than no schedule at all.

Same-season home-away matchups might make more sense for UConn, UMass, Liberty and Army, just because of proximity. But, there may be other options from all the schools scrambling to fill holes after they get dropped from P5 teams' schedules.

The irony in all of this is that most of the above-listed PAC at MWC games are CLOSER in proximity than in-conference PAC games that likely replace them.

Good post.
PAC/MWC/BYU could work together and have a season.

The sticking point to me is how do you get out of a contracted game to just pick up a newly scheduled game? If you use the COVID-19 act of God out clause, then turn around and schedule someone else instead that may be as close or further away and may or may not be in a safer part of the country, I'd think people would want you to pay cancellation fees for those games rather than just let it go.

Well now that the PAC 12 made their decision...BYU got screwed. Hope those Big and PAC teams pay the cancellation fees.

The MWC is going to be interesting. Hawaii has special restrictions that may make it impossible to travel there. The three Cal State schools are trying to get around the CSU system almost all online only rules to have football players on campus (this looks to be very much against the spirit of the CSU system decision). It is very possible all four of those schools (Hawaii, San Diego State, Fresno State, San Jose State) may well have to bow out of playing fall sports. That would leave the MWC at just 8 schools in the Mountain region: UNLV, Nevada, Boise State, Utah State, Colorado State, Wyoming, New Mexico. I could well see those schools and BYU working together to forma regional schedule for Football.

I am curious as to what happens.

(07-11-2020 01:05 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  The MWC is going to be interesting. Hawaii has special restrictions that may make it impossible to travel there. The three Cal State schools are trying to get around the CSU system almost all online only rules to have football players on campus (this looks to be very much against the spirit of the CSU system decision). It is very possible all four of those schools (Hawaii, San Diego State, Fresno State, San Jose State) may well have to bow out of playing fall sports. That would leave the MWC at just 8 schools in the Mountain region: UNLV, Nevada, Boise State, Utah State, Colorado State, Wyoming, New Mexico. I could well see those schools and BYU working together to forma regional schedule for Football.

I am curious as to what happens.

Actually that would be a very tight regional conference:
BYU
Boise St
Utah St
Wyoming
Colorado St
Air Force
New Mexico
Nevada
UNLV

All the Indy’s minus ND could just play each other twice and it all works out or close to working out. LU plays at NMSU then NMSU plays at LU that’s two games that count for each and a home and home. Do that with anyone that’s willing and you have quite a few FBS home games for everyone. We have already done something like this with NMSU so it is possible.