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Is the Wesleyan game a game or an exhibition?
06-30-2020 11:36 AM
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Saw it’s a real game. Their OOC does look pretty good though. Only meh OOC games are Elon & Wesleyan.

Again, I have zero complaints about any JMU MBB schedule for 20-21.
06-30-2020 11:40 AM
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Best part of this announcement of the non-CAA schedule is I learned 2 new colleges I'd never heard of before (Bryn Athyn & Clarks Summit). Awesome!

Hoping this trend continues next year with us scheduling Wyoming School for the Totally Farged...though, the NCAA might get so mad at Rutgers-Durham paying off Zion Williamson (and plenty of others they will never admit to) and not keeping things quiet as instructed that they will place WSTF on 5 years probation.

The NCAA is the one who is totally farged. But, I digress.

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A little disappointing to me that the first game in the new arena is an exhibition against Bridgewater and the first real game is Maryland Eastern Shore. But at this point I'm just hoping it's actually played so quality of opponent for the opener is small potatoes. I'd much rather have a rivalry game even though it might be a loss or have UVA but that's just me. Very solid schedule other than that imo. Hopefully on 12/22 the Dukes can help get Mike White fired.
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agree it's underwhelming... but it will also give the venue staff a chance to figure out how things will work in the new arena. It would be nice to do a ribbon cutting/grand opening/first look with a matchup like UVA, but softer opening is probably a lot safer. I guess the Homecoming weekend basketball games ended up being a false rumor (although we have yet to see the WBB schedule).
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(07-01-2020 08:28 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  agree it's underwhelming... but it will also give the venue staff a chance to figure out how things will work in the new arena. It would be nice to do a ribbon cutting/grand opening/first look with a matchup like UVA, but softer opening is probably a lot safer. I guess the Homecoming weekend basketball games ended up being a false rumor (although we have yet to see the WBB schedule).

As we discussed many months ago, I actually think it is smart to open with a lesser-known opponent. The place will (hopefully) be packed (barring COVID effects of course) for the grand opening. If not sold out, it will at least be far more highly attended than a normal hosted game against a weaker opponent. Then, you bring in UVA 8 days later to what will definitely be a sell out (read: $$$).

The 2nd game of the season against Longwood on Saturday, Nov. 14, coincides with the Football Dukes kicking Bitchmond's ace down at the Breadbox. I don't anticipate that will be as highly attended (Football Saturday, weaker opponent, etc.). All of this is of course COVID-pending.

I have mixed feelings about hosting Radford on Black Friday. Students not on campus. Most fans out Christmas shopping (hopefully by then the COVID outlook will be a lot better).

I like the 2 road games at ECU and Florida just before Christmas and heading into CAA play (after 11 of our first 12 games are played at home). Guys need to play some roadies on opposing courts to get ready for CAA play. The ECU game, in particular, will be a good test to watch due to closer-to-CAA competition as well as coming off exams.

Games at GT and UF will at minimum be streamed via ACC Network Extra and SEC Network Plus, respectively, with an outside shot at being televised via their main conference TV (channel) networks.
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How awful would it be to have this new arena and not have basketball, or not have fans at basketball games. That scenario is like, what, a 25% chance? Obviously WAY bigger problems in the world than JMU and their new shiny hoops arena opening... but that would surely be a blow to a great opportunity to build something special. Hopefully we can go to games in November.
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(07-01-2020 10:35 AM)Deez Nuts Wrote:  How awful would it be to have this new arena and not have basketball, or not have fans at basketball games. That scenario is like, what, a 25% chance? Obviously WAY bigger problems in the world than JMU and their new shiny hoops arena opening... but that would surely be a blow to a great opportunity to build something special. Hopefully we can go to games in November.

If you would have told me back on the day when March Madness was cancelled that next seasons basketball will be disrupted I would have called you crazy but now I'm a little scared as well. I'm going to just stay optimistic and keep doing the right things like washing hands, wearing a mask, etc.

Most excited I've been for a JMU bball season since I became a student! (graduated a few years ago)
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I won't be surprised if this sentiment picks up steam...

Rick Pitino @RealPitino

Suggestion to the NCAA, push the start of the season back to January and only play league games. Buy some more time for a vaccine and to get things under control. Although I can’t wait to be back on the sidelines, the health of my players and staff is what’s really important.
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(07-01-2020 01:15 PM)Wear Purple Wrote:  I won't be surprised if this sentiment picks up steam...

Rick Pitino @RealPitino

Suggestion to the NCAA, push the start of the season back to January and only play league games. Buy some more time for a vaccine and to get things under control. Although I can’t wait to be back on the sidelines, the health of my players and staff is what’s really important.

It might, but wow that would suck to cancel out all the OOC games this year.
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No OOC games would be interesting. WHOLE lot of P5s play almost all their non conference games at home. Come NCAA Tourney selection time, their records won't be nearly as gaudy as usual.
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(07-01-2020 01:15 PM)Wear Purple Wrote:  I won't be surprised if this sentiment picks up steam...

Rick Pitino @RealPitino

Suggestion to the NCAA, push the start of the season back to January and only play league games. Buy some more time for a vaccine and to get things under control. Although I can’t wait to be back on the sidelines, the health of my players and staff is what’s really important.

but come January, I will encourage my players to go out there and risk injuries that may end their season or career.
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Dave Thomas did a good interview with Coach Byington where he talked about the schedule.
He said that about 8 non-conference games were already scheduled (UVA, ODU, GMU, ECU were the ones he mentioned).
He also said he plans to have a "national schedule" and wants to play "big name teams" and challenge the players. Also said that he wanted JMU to get nationally televised games so JMU could be seen on television.
He wants scheduling at JMU to be difficult because it means teams don't want to play us. Right now he did say there were some teams that may think we are vulnerable.
He also mentioned recruiting and scheduling. Talked about the GT game and how he wants to continue to recruit down there. He also mentioned playing more OOC games in the northeast. While he did say we do play games up there for conference games, he wants more OOC games up there as well.

Really like this guy the more I hear him.
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(07-02-2020 02:14 PM)JMad03 Wrote:  Dave Thomas did a good interview with Coach Byington where he talked about the schedule.
He said that about 8 non-conference games were already scheduled (UVA, ODU, GMU, ECU were the ones he mentioned).
He also said he plans to have a "national schedule" and wants to play "big name teams" and challenge the players. Also said that he wanted JMU to get nationally televised games so JMU could be seen on television.
He wants scheduling at JMU to be difficult because it means teams don't want to play us. Right now he did say there were some teams that may think we are vulnerable.
He also mentioned recruiting and scheduling. Talked about the GT game and how he wants to continue to recruit down there. He also mentioned playing more OOC games in the northeast. While he did say we do play games up there for conference games, he wants more OOC games up there as well.

Really like this guy the more I hear him.

Love it. Thanks for sharing. The Atlanta area alone is loaded with talent. We aren't going to get the 4* or 5* types that come out of there in multitudes every year, but I do think we can snag a 3* or two out of there annually. It's going to take some time. If it means we schedule roadies at UGA, GT, Ga State, Mercer (just down the road in Macon), and so forth to keep exposure down there, then I think it is a great idea.

My personal hope is that we start getting in some of these higher-profile ESPN-run early season tournaments for 3 good-competition games in attractive locales and in a legit tournament format (win and advance). These games are televised, are good exposure, great for our fans to travel to, and most of all very attractive for recruiting. Of course, nobody has wanted us in those events because of the ineptitude of the program for going on 3 decades. By 2022 or 2023, hopefully we see HCMB getting the program to the point where we are playing in the Bahamas, Hawaii, or the like.

If we are going up into the Northeast above and beyond our normal CAA swings, then hopefully we are going up there to play in NYC/Brooklyn or on campus at big-name programs like Syracuse.

I like what I'm seeing and reading so far. Again with another "hopefully" Bourne and his staff who ultimately sign off on scheduling will be supportive of this vision. I'd love to one day never see us host another non-D1 opponent. Use the pre-CAA schedule for exposure and challenging the team with tough competition so when CAA play comes along it looks a bit easier. If we have to do 2- or even 3-for-1 (3 away for 1 home) to get strong name programs into H'burg, then do it.
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(07-02-2020 02:41 PM)Wear Purple Wrote:  If we have to do 2- or even 3-for-1 (3 away for 1 home) to get strong name programs into H'burg, then do it.

While I agree (right now), if you do a lot of this, ultimately you are trading away some home games, and likelihood of wins.

IF we get to the point where AUB is filling up with fans, this would cost us in terms of home game revenue and reduce games for season ticket holders. Home crowd can be a huge advantage.

While I want to see a lot of these games, scheduling balance is important, and I trust Coach B will get that right.

Here's to hoping we quickly get to the point where this is a real concern 04-cheers
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Mettlen spoke to Byington and has an article up on the schedule this year

https://www.dnronline.com/sports/schedul...6fdf4.html

"Deals for eight non-conference contests had already been negotiated before Byington took the JMU job as games against Radford, Fordham and ECU were continuations of series the Dukes were already taking part in."

- Rowe was working on the Florida game
- Byington got us in the GA Tech tourney game that came with Longwood and Mt St Marys
- Wants to play where he recruits (including GA and FL)
- Wants to win CAA championships
- D3 games are good for business (save money on travel, make a little at the gate), but does not want these types of games in the future

D3 schedule note from Mettlen -- https://twitter.com/Shane_DNRSports/stat...0476236801
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Great article that showed some light on scheduling philosophy and answered some questions we asked about who made up the schedule.
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Quote:Most notably, the Dukes entered into two-for-one deals with Virginia, Old Dominion, and George Mason with each arrangement set to bring home games against the in-state foes during the 2020-21 season.

Really - 2 fer 1s with ODU and GMU?

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I remember when I looked down on GMU and ODU was our equal.

Oh yeah, but 1 fer 1 with Norfolk St.
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(07-08-2020 04:31 PM)Dukester Wrote:  
Quote:Most notably, the Dukes entered into two-for-one deals with Virginia, Old Dominion, and George Mason with each arrangement set to bring home games against the in-state foes during the 2020-21 season.

Really - 2 fer 1s with ODU and GMU?

03-puke

I remember when I looked down on GMU and ODU was our equal.

Oh yeah, but 1 fer 1 with Norfolk St.

The past 10 years have been "rough" and we should be thankful GMU and ODU agreed to even play us in Harrisonburg. If the "coach speak" is any indication; I believe we should start losing that baggage pretty quickly.
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IMO -

JMU does a lousy job of handling the 2 fer 1 both ways. We seem to get screwed either way.........

1 fer 1 with Norfolk St in football
1 fer 2 versus GMU in basketball

I'm not one (like many on here) that over values JMU, but we should be able to do better than that.
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