(06-22-2020 05:28 PM)mrbig Wrote: They weren't strictly partisan. Amash and Romney sided with the Democrats while Peterson, Van Drew, and Golden voted with the Republicans. The result fell along mostly partisan lines.
So out of 535, 5 broke party ranks (really 4-1/2). That's 99+% partisan. That's about as partisan as you'd get voting on whether today is Monday.
(06-22-2020 05:04 PM)mrbig Wrote: I never said you or anyone else "takes your marching orders from Fox & Friends".
Here's my point. Frequently when I and others who don't share your leftist point of view make a point, we are hit with, "Oh that was the Fox talking point." The pretty obvious implication, even if unstated, is that we are just Foxbots parroting what Fox tells us. If that is not what you were trying to imply, then I apologize, but I would strongly suggest that you use different words in the future.
Quote:Ok. I literally said on multiple occasions today that I do not consider any of the conservatives or libertarians here to be Trump bots. And I use the word "literally" in the literal sense. I can understand how At Ease (or whomever it was) could make the mistake of believing it because some of arguments (but not all!) of some of the conservatives or libertarians here (but not all, or at least not at all times!) are indistinguishable or extremely similar to the arguments repeated by the Trump bots. I made a similar accusation once to OO and retracted it with an apology (I believe back in March but it could have been earlier).
Satisfied?
Fair enough. But please understand that when that implication is bandied about so much, it's a bit difficult to keep track of exactly who has used what insult.
I have called you and other leftists my enemy on here. If that offends, I'm sorry. But to be clear, I'm sorry it offends, not sorry I said it. I meant it, because that is precisely how I feel.
We can have discussions with enemies. The US and the Russians have had the hot line for how long, 60 years? You might even convince me that Donald Trump is a despicable human being. But you're not going to convince me that I should vote for Joe Biden because Donald Trump is a despicable human being, because I think Joe Biden is a despicable human being, have felt so for decades, and he also happens to hold a number of issue positions that would disqualify him from even being considered for my vote.