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(06-17-2020 03:53 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

Memphis flipped CamRon Jackson from LSU. He had offers from Alabama, Baylor, Florida, Mississippi State, Rutgers and Texas A&M.

Martin picked Memphis over Texas State, Tulane and Yale.

Memphis now has the 40th ranked class (not sure which service).

rivals 24/7 has Memphis currently ranked #40. Cincy is #29, SMU #42, USF #63, Temple #67, UCF #70, Houston, Tulane & Tulsa tied for #90, ECU & Navy tied at #96

https://n.rivals.com/team_rankings/2021/...s/football
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He is a big-time player. Fingers crossed.
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(06-17-2020 08:35 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

He is a big-time player. Fingers crossed.

CBs have been rolling in for Memphis. I would bet he commits to Memphis tomorrow, but it will be getting him to stay on until Signing Day will be the hard part.

He's a 3* composite 247 .88, but is a 4* according to 247 ranking's service.
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(06-16-2020 10:30 AM)usffan Wrote:  Saw these two figures, and thought they were pretty enlightening (though not thrilled that the separated the A5 from the non-A5):

[Image: EaTSzNOX0AA4r9v?format=jpg&name=4096x4096]

[Image: Eal7uFSXsAIWEOg?format=jpg&name=4096x4096]

Explains lots of things. First, that App State and Wisconsin are probably the most overachieving teams over the last 4 years. That Niumatalolo has probably done the best coaching job relative to the talent he's brought in of anybody in the AAC. That ECU, Tulane and SMU have underachieved relative to what they should have done. That 7/11 of the league are significantly above the midline. And that the team that decided to leave really is on an island relative to the rest of the league.

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Wow. So the quick and dirty:

Bottom Left: You have garbage recruits and, as expected, played like garbage.
Top Left: You way over-achieved with your garbage recruits. Not expected to keep it up.
Bottom Right: (this is us) You have good recruits and have no excuse being so garbage. Expected to turn things around.
Top Right: Duh, you’re only really good because you get the best recruits...a**hole.

Things could be worse I guess. UConn=UMass.


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(06-17-2020 09:47 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  
(06-16-2020 10:30 AM)usffan Wrote:  Saw these two figures, and thought they were pretty enlightening (though not thrilled that the separated the A5 from the non-A5):

[Image: EaTSzNOX0AA4r9v?format=jpg&name=4096x4096]

[Image: Eal7uFSXsAIWEOg?format=jpg&name=4096x4096]

Explains lots of things. First, that App State and Wisconsin are probably the most overachieving teams over the last 4 years. That Niumatalolo has probably done the best coaching job relative to the talent he's brought in of anybody in the AAC. That ECU, Tulane and SMU have underachieved relative to what they should have done. That 7/11 of the league are significantly above the midline. And that the team that decided to leave really is on an island relative to the rest of the league.

USFFan


Wow. So the quick and dirty:

Bottom Left: You have garbage recruits and, as expected, played like garbage.
Top Left: You way over-achieved with your garbage recruits. Not expected to keep it up.
Bottom Right: (this is us) You have good recruits and have no excuse being so garbage. Expected to turn things around.
Top Right: Duh, you’re only really good because you get the best recruits...a**hole.





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(06-17-2020 09:47 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  
(06-16-2020 10:30 AM)usffan Wrote:  Saw these two figures, and thought they were pretty enlightening (though not thrilled that the separated the A5 from the non-A5):

[Image: EaTSzNOX0AA4r9v?format=jpg&name=4096x4096]

[Image: Eal7uFSXsAIWEOg?format=jpg&name=4096x4096]

Explains lots of things. First, that App State and Wisconsin are probably the most overachieving teams over the last 4 years. That Niumatalolo has probably done the best coaching job relative to the talent he's brought in of anybody in the AAC. That ECU, Tulane and SMU have underachieved relative to what they should have done. That 7/11 of the league are significantly above the midline. And that the team that decided to leave really is on an island relative to the rest of the league.

USFFan


Wow. So the quick and dirty:

Bottom Left: You have garbage recruits and, as expected, played like garbage.
Top Left: You way over-achieved with your garbage recruits. Not expected to keep it up.
Bottom Right: (this is us) You have good recruits and have no excuse being so garbage. Expected to turn things around.
Top Right: Duh, you’re only really good because you get the best recruits...a**hole.

Things could be worse I guess. UConn=UMass.


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Less with more
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(06-17-2020 10:44 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  
(06-17-2020 09:47 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  
(06-16-2020 10:30 AM)usffan Wrote:  Saw these two figures, and thought they were pretty enlightening (though not thrilled that the separated the A5 from the non-A5):

[Image: EaTSzNOX0AA4r9v?format=jpg&name=4096x4096]

[Image: Eal7uFSXsAIWEOg?format=jpg&name=4096x4096]

Explains lots of things. First, that App State and Wisconsin are probably the most overachieving teams over the last 4 years. That Niumatalolo has probably done the best coaching job relative to the talent he's brought in of anybody in the AAC. That ECU, Tulane and SMU have underachieved relative to what they should have done. That 7/11 of the league are significantly above the midline. And that the team that decided to leave really is on an island relative to the rest of the league.

USFFan


Wow. So the quick and dirty:

Bottom Left: You have garbage recruits and, as expected, played like garbage.
Top Left: You way over-achieved with your garbage recruits. Not expected to keep it up.
Bottom Right: (this is us) You have good recruits and have no excuse being so garbage. Expected to turn things around.
Top Right: Duh, you’re only really good because you get the best recruits...a**hole.

Things could be worse I guess. UConn=UMass.


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More with more

Right. I was just thinking of it a step further, as a predictive guide. Outliers exist in the top left and bottom right. For teams like UAB or Colorado State, a coaching change for better or worse could completely flip things for them.

It would be interesting to see this graph in motion, or even interactive. See how improving a recruiting class improves results, or how bad results can weaken recruiting classes over time.
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PS: This guy sliced and diced the data a few different ways.

All FBS Teams:
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All FBS Teams S+P:
[Image: EarELV3XsAA7Co5?format=jpg&name=4096x4096]
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With way too much time on my hands, here are some recruiting updates. Kids rated 0.8498 or above by 247 so far:
UC - 8
SMU - 7
MEM - 6
UCF - 2
USF - 2
All the rest have 1 or none at this point. What these ratings mean, except for bragging rights, is a mystery to me. I tend to trust the Coaches to take the best ones they think fit needs, culture, academics, etc. AAC out recruiting all G4 conferences in a big way, FWIW.
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(06-18-2020 03:25 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

https://dailymemphian.com/section/sports...linebacker

Tigers now at #36 nationally at Rivals 24/7

https://n.rivals.com/team_rankings/2021/...s/football
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Temple picks up 3* NJ OT Rakim Cooper

https://n.rivals.com/content/prospects/2...-interests
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Couple AAC schools involved with this 3 star receiver from Texas.
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(06-20-2020 09:43 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  
Couple AAC schools involved with this 3 star receiver from Texas.

We're not in every players Top list. Fire everyone
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6’3 185 JUCO WR from Texas commits to UCF. Other offers from Houston, Texas Tech, Kansas, Boston College, among others.
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(06-21-2020 03:58 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  
6’3 185 JUCO WR from Texas commits to UCF. Other offers from Houston, Texas Tech, Kansas, Boston College, among others.

No idea how good he is but cool. One of these receivers is bound to be good
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https://247sports.com/player/charlie-browder-46098009/

Another commit we got today, should be official tomorrow
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(06-21-2020 09:23 PM)IamYourDad Wrote:  https://247sports.com/player/charlie-browder-46098009/

Another commit we got today, should be official tomorrow
Yep, 6’7 235 TE from NC with offers from Michigan State, Maryland, Iowa State, Kentucky, Arizona State, Boston College, Georgia Tech, Kansas, NC State, UCLA, among others.
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(06-21-2020 10:20 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  
(06-21-2020 09:23 PM)IamYourDad Wrote:  https://247sports.com/player/charlie-browder-46098009/

Another commit we got today, should be official tomorrow
Yep, 6’7 235 TE from NC with offers from Michigan State, Maryland, Iowa State, Kentucky, Arizona State, Boston College, Georgia Tech, Kansas, NC State, UCLA, among others.

It's definitely none of my business, and I'm not the biggest fan of recruiting (because I think the rankings are BS and driven by what sells subscriptions more than anything else), but it's really strange to me that you guys seem to be focusing on recruiting non-Florida kids. Given that one of the biggest strengths ascribed to both of our programs is that we are sitting in such a recruiting hotbed, and given that using precious scholarships on out of state kids might alienate high school coaches (which can impact future recruiting), this seems like a bizarre strategy. Then again, I'm not getting paid millions (or, frankly, a penny) to run a college football program...

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(06-22-2020 08:07 AM)usffan Wrote:  
(06-21-2020 10:20 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  
(06-21-2020 09:23 PM)IamYourDad Wrote:  https://247sports.com/player/charlie-browder-46098009/

Another commit we got today, should be official tomorrow
Yep, 6’7 235 TE from NC with offers from Michigan State, Maryland, Iowa State, Kentucky, Arizona State, Boston College, Georgia Tech, Kansas, NC State, UCLA, among others.

It's definitely none of my business, and I'm not the biggest fan of recruiting (because I think the rankings are BS and driven by what sells subscriptions more than anything else), but it's really strange to me that you guys seem to be focusing on recruiting non-Florida kids. Given that one of the biggest strengths ascribed to both of our programs is that we are sitting in such a recruiting hotbed, and given that using precious scholarships on out of state kids might alienate high school coaches (which can impact future recruiting), this seems like a bizarre strategy. Then again, I'm not getting paid millions (or, frankly, a penny) to run a college football program...

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I think the quarantine is a big factor in us ignoring Florida currently. Once practice and the actual season starts it would be hard to travel across the US to talk with recruits. Once the football season starts, we will then likely spend all of our time on Florida. Signing day is still a long ways away. The recruits will then be able to (hopefully) attend games and we will be able to flip a good portion of them. We’ll see how good of a strategy that is pretty soon, but it makes sense on paper
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