(06-02-2020 06:17 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

While I agree with that remark, I can't help wondering what his angle is here. I trust Van Jones not at all.

totally peaceful, guys.

To his credit this is the second time that he has gone against the CNN narrative and he is absolutely right. Killery is pure evil and her party is her cult...still. A female Jim Jones who loves to give them the Kool Aid.

In that Lubbock video did you notice how fast he dropped the rifle when I presume he was told to. He thought he was on stage in some production because he's a theater major or such. He should be taught that you don't play those kind of games. If you play stupid games you'll get the stupid prize. He's like a LOT of Hispanics here in El Paso who strongly hate Trump but I don't even think they know why.

(06-02-2020 02:45 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:40 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:28 AM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:10 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:08 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  You're not fooling anyone

So, I never asserted that. Thanks for confirming. What does the Bible say about lying again?

Dissembling, prevarication, half truths, are all forms of lying Tom and they are all part of your tool set when posting. The Bible also said let your yays be yays and your nays be nays, and it cautioned against the council of the doubleminded man.

So as Jesus actually did say, "Let he among you without sin cast the first stone."

Now smoke that over.

Finally it said we are not to judge. Judging is hearing what someone else says about somebody and forming an opinion based on their opinion. This is why we call the arbiter in a court a Judge.

But the Bible urges discernment, which is knowing a person by their actions.

Using that criteria alone I do not find Eric to be a liar. But I do find you to be a dissembler constantly moving the goal posts in your arguments. I do find you to be double minded spouting the agenda of one side while claiming not to be a part of them. And I thereby know you by your actions and to do so is not judgment, but the discernment of what you have had to claim about about yourself in your actual words recorded in your posts.

So if choosing truthfulness between you and Eric even though all of us are sinners, I find Eric to be the more truthful.

I never said this...so who's the double talker now? I've only maintained I'm not a member of the democrat party.

The left is my side. I fully embrace it...always have.

Why can't you guys get that through your thick skulls? I've explained it like a dozen times now.

We've understood it for a while.

Leftist, not a Dem.

That leaves a few remaining groups: Socialist, Communist, Anarchist.

Which one do you identify with?

If I had to pick one...it would be Socialist. But no I don't fully support their party platform or methodology either. I don't support any political party...I loathe them all. Mostly because the top 2 are what I see as the main reason our country is so divided.

(06-02-2020 02:57 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:53 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:46 AM)TigersOhMy Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:40 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-02-2020 08:28 AM)JRsec Wrote:  Dissembling, prevarication, half truths, are all forms of lying Tom and they are all part of your tool set when posting. The Bible also said let your yays be yays and your nays be nays, and it cautioned against the council of the doubleminded man.

So as Jesus actually did say, "Let he among you without sin cast the first stone."

Now smoke that over.

Finally it said we are not to judge. Judging is hearing what someone else says about somebody and forming an opinion based on their opinion. This is why we call the arbiter in a court a Judge.

But the Bible urges discernment, which is knowing a person by their actions.

Using that criteria alone I do not find Eric to be a liar. But I do find you to be a dissembler constantly moving the goal posts in your arguments. I do find you to be double minded spouting the agenda of one side while claiming not to be a part of them. And I thereby know you by your actions and to do so is not judgment, but the discernment of what you have had to claim about about yourself in your actual words recorded in your posts.

So if choosing truthfulness between you and Eric even though all of us are sinners, I find Eric to be the more truthful.

I never said this...so who's the double talker now? I've only maintained I'm not a member of the democrat party.

The left is my side. I fully embrace it...always have.

Why can't you guys get that through your thick skulls? I've explained it like a dozen times now.

it is because you represent yourself as an independent voter (read: could side with either party on an issue) yet side with the far left on everything except being an official member. It's dishonest and frankly pretty much par for the course with you.

Dude, you don't know at all what I side with.

All we have to go by is what you say.

You said you're left, but not Dem.

The policies for which you've expressed support throughout your posting history paint you as solid left.

What are we missing?

You're not missing anything.

But several on here continue to call me a democrat and claim I claim I'm an independent in my views. I'm only independent when it comes to voting as I don't belong to a party and do at times vote for republicans...especially at local levels. No, I have not voted for any Republican presidents...yet.

Oh look Tom's mommy woke him up early today

(06-03-2020 08:08 AM)BartlettTigerFan Wrote:  Oh look Tom's mommy woke him up early today

Just more nonsense from you guys. I've been working 6:30 to 3:00 shifts since I've been working at home beginning late March.

You do know you can easily find these things out by looking at my posts and time stamps instead of looking like a petty fool, right?

(06-02-2020 06:49 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

Ted Cruz has been my fave political conservative for a while now. I voted for him in the 2016 TN Primary over Trump.

It's good to see that the last presidential election has emboldened Ted even more.

He'll make a great choice in 2024.

Quote:The FBI’s Washington Field Office “has no intelligence indicating Antifa involvement/presence” in the violence that occurred on May 31 during the D.C.-area protests over the murder of George Floyd, according to an internal FBI situation report obtained exclusively by The Nation. That same day, president donald trump announced on Twitter that he would designate “Antifa” a terrorist organization, even though the government has no existing authority to declare a domestic group a terrorist organization, and antifa is not an organized group. Following the president’s tweet, Attorney General William Barr said in a statement, “The violence instigated and carried out by Antifa and other similar groups in connection with the rioting is domestic terrorism and will be treated accordingly.”

The FBI report, however, states that “based on CHS [Confidential Human Source] canvassing, open source/social media partner engagement, and liaison, FBI WFO has no intelligence indicating Antifa involvement/presence.” The statement followed a list of violent acts like throwing bricks at police and the discovery of a backpack containing explosive materials, which were flagged by the FBI under a “Key Updates” section of the report. The FBI has been issuing such reports daily since the weekend, according to a Bureau source, who added that none of these documents contained any evidence of antifa violence.

The FBI Finds ‘No Intel Indicating Antifa Involvement’ in Sunday’s Violence

(06-03-2020 10:46 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Quote:The FBI’s Washington Field Office “has no intelligence indicating Antifa involvement/presence” in the violence that occurred on May 31 during the D.C.-area protests over the murder of George Floyd, according to an internal FBI situation report obtained exclusively by The Nation. That same day, president donald trump announced on Twitter that he would designate “Antifa” a terrorist organization, even though the government has no existing authority to declare a domestic group a terrorist organization, and antifa is not an organized group. Following the president’s tweet, Attorney General William Barr said in a statement, “The violence instigated and carried out by Antifa and other similar groups in connection with the rioting is domestic terrorism and will be treated accordingly.”

The FBI report, however, states that “based on CHS [Confidential Human Source] canvassing, open source/social media partner engagement, and liaison, FBI WFO has no intelligence indicating Antifa involvement/presence.” The statement followed a list of violent acts like throwing bricks at police and the discovery of a backpack containing explosive materials, which were flagged by the FBI under a “Key Updates” section of the report. The FBI has been issuing such reports daily since the weekend, according to a Bureau source, who added that none of these documents contained any evidence of antifa violence.

The FBI Finds ‘No Intel Indicating Antifa Involvement’ in Sunday’s Violence

The FBI also said Trump was colluding with Russia. I'm watching that theory get blown all to hell on TV right now.

(06-03-2020 10:46 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Quote:The FBI’s Washington Field Office “has no intelligence indicating Antifa involvement/presence” in the violence that occurred on May 31 during the D.C.-area protests over the murder of George Floyd, according to an internal FBI situation report obtained exclusively by The Nation. That same day, president donald trump announced on Twitter that he would designate “Antifa” a terrorist organization, even though the government has no existing authority to declare a domestic group a terrorist organization, and antifa is not an organized group. Following the president’s tweet, Attorney General William Barr said in a statement, “The violence instigated and carried out by Antifa and other similar groups in connection with the rioting is domestic terrorism and will be treated accordingly.”

The FBI report, however, states that “based on CHS [Confidential Human Source] canvassing, open source/social media partner engagement, and liaison, FBI WFO has no intelligence indicating Antifa involvement/presence.” The statement followed a list of violent acts like throwing bricks at police and the discovery of a backpack containing explosive materials, which were flagged by the FBI under a “Key Updates” section of the report. The FBI has been issuing such reports daily since the weekend, according to a Bureau source, who added that none of these documents contained any evidence of antifa violence.

The FBI Finds ‘No Intel Indicating Antifa Involvement’ in Sunday’s Violence

Does that extend to rioting in every other state?

(06-03-2020 10:57 AM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(06-03-2020 10:46 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

Quote:The FBI’s Washington Field Office “has no intelligence indicating Antifa involvement/presence” in the violence that occurred on May 31 during the D.C.-area protests over the murder of George Floyd, according to an internal FBI situation report obtained exclusively by The Nation. That same day, president donald trump announced on Twitter that he would designate “Antifa” a terrorist organization, even though the government has no existing authority to declare a domestic group a terrorist organization, and antifa is not an organized group. Following the president’s tweet, Attorney General William Barr said in a statement, “The violence instigated and carried out by Antifa and other similar groups in connection with the rioting is domestic terrorism and will be treated accordingly.”

The FBI report, however, states that “based on CHS [Confidential Human Source] canvassing, open source/social media partner engagement, and liaison, FBI WFO has no intelligence indicating Antifa involvement/presence.” The statement followed a list of violent acts like throwing bricks at police and the discovery of a backpack containing explosive materials, which were flagged by the FBI under a “Key Updates” section of the report. The FBI has been issuing such reports daily since the weekend, according to a Bureau source, who added that none of these documents contained any evidence of antifa violence.

The FBI Finds ‘No Intel Indicating Antifa Involvement’ in Sunday’s Violence

Does that extend to rioting in every other state?

Wouldn't surprise me. Antifa is being used about the same way ACORN was. The right is trying to give them way too much credit. I'm sure there are people who identify themselves as Antifa who have looted and caused other destruction across the country. but to act like this is some grand coordinated effort is laughable.

Personal attacks are a violation of the Spin Room AUP.

This is your 1 warning.

Tom is immune from facts. His source for his assertion is The Nation. The left's talking points are trying to swim upstream by claiming it is not Antifa when anybody with eyes, ears and a functioning brain can see what is going on.

First they tried claiming it was white supremacists infiltrating the protests. For goodness sakes, even the left wing biased SPLC said there is no evidence that white supremacists are involved at all. The leftwing media got slapped down and ridiculed so they just changed to denying antifa is involved.

Given the politicization of the FBI and intelligence agencies, I am having a hard time believing much that comes from them today, including info in that Nation article.

Quote:Last year, FBI documents obtained by this reporter showed that the Bureau has listed “Racially Motivated Violent Extremists” among its top counterterrorism priorities. While those priorities did include white supremacist groups, they also included what the FBI called “Black Identity Extremists.” The documents reveal that the Bureau linked “retaliatory lethal violence against law enforcement” to the “shooting of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri,” from which the Black Lives Matter movement originated.

The report, marked “For official use only” (FOUO), was provided to The Nation by an FBI official on condition of anonymity. The report is titled, “Civil Unrest in Washington AOR [Area of Responsibility] Following Death of George Floyd.” The report’s reference to “CHS” suggests that the Bureau possesses secret informants participating in the protests.

Gee, how convenient. Another political leak that benefits the dem narrative. How many times do we need to be played?

It just got a lot tougher for the left to pretend that antifa doesn't exist. I wonder if they'll back off the charade now, or double down until we actually have the mugshots and video of them in federal court.

(06-04-2020 12:04 PM)Kronke Wrote:  It just got a lot tougher for the left to pretend that antifa doesn't exist. I wonder if they'll back off the charade now, or double down until we actually have the mugshots and video of them in federal court.

LOL at irony - the violent protests and rioting plays right into the hands of what China, Russia and Iran wants to see. Collusion????