I love that these jerks are getting their little boy bits put in a vice.

(06-01-2020 04:50 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

You may be millions, but you are outnumbered 10:1 by normal Americans with a functioning brain. I'd hate to be you if it REALLY gets ugly, especially since you just advertised which morons you stand with.

(06-01-2020 06:40 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 06:33 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

Hilarious. Wish I could’ve been that reporter. I would’ve had all 3 of them fighting mad

Does mommy’s little angel get terrorism charges?

Let’s GOOOOOOO

(06-01-2020 06:52 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 04:50 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

You may be millions, but you are outnumbered 10:1 by normals Americans with functioning brain. I'd hate to be you if it REALLY gets ugly, especially since you just advertised which morons you stand with.

Just what we need. Another typical democrat in congress.

(06-01-2020 06:57 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Let’s GOOOOOOO

But he’s a gooood boy.....

On a side note just a question. Why does antifa wear isis uniforms?

(06-01-2020 07:04 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  On a side note just a question. Why does antifa wear isis uniforms?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_bloc

(06-01-2020 07:04 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  On a side note just a question. Why does antifa wear isis uniforms?

Hand me downs.

(06-01-2020 07:26 PM)MileHighBronco Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 07:04 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  On a side note just a question. Why does antifa wear isis uniforms?

Hand me downs.

I see. Thank you.

(06-01-2020 07:12 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 07:04 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  On a side note just a question. Why does antifa wear isis uniforms?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_bloc

Loose translation, attack the back of the neck, groin, and the knees and if they are wearing sneakers the instep.

(06-01-2020 01:00 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 12:54 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 10:32 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 06:49 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Law enforcement could put a stop to this Antifa bs by simply searching every “protester” that has a backpack. If you find a hammer, spray paint or other weapon in their possession, you lock them up. There is no reason for a peaceful protester to be in possession of these items.

When a “protester” is caught with one of these items, if they are a student, all their financial aid is stopped.
If they work, their social security number is flagged and they are no longer eligible to work in this country.

If they don’t respect this country, they don’t deserve to benefit from living here.

There's a major problem with letting police do that....

4th amendment

If we are OK with letting police search the backpacks then it's not long before its random people walking down the street getting searched. Including people not breaking any laws.

I understand why you are saying this but not long ago people were saying. If you dont have anything to worry about...

well look at what has happened since Nov 2016. I'm not ready to give up constitutional rights, so quickly. Because if the government will do what they did to this President and those around him. Let them have a foot in that door, they kick it open.

I understand your point.

People have to undergo a mandatory search if they want to board a plane.

While I personally think that's a violation, it's one that's been upheld. I don't see why banning backpacks at impromptu public protests couldn't be justified in the same contorted way that boarding a plane is.

Like I said there are laws already on the books to deal with this problem. Let the governor call a State of Emergency. As we seen for the last 3 or 4 months, they can then put into place the rules they want to. Like banning backpacks but I guess they could do that anyways.

I'm just not willing to give the government permission to intrude on my rights outside of a a State of Emergency. With the hope they only do it this one time. I dont trust them to do that.

Your two statements don't seem to agree with one another. First statement said that it was against the 4th Amendment to search backpacks. Second statement (above) states the governor can call a State of Emergency then "they can put into place the rules they want to". That was exactly what I was getting at when I said to let them search the backpacks of the protesters for now, then when things subside go back to how it was before (i.e. no search).

There's a major problem with letting police do that....

4th amendment

If we are OK with letting police search the backpacks then it's not long before its random people walking down the street getting searched. Including people not breaking any laws.

I understand why you are saying this but not long ago people were saying. If you dont have anything to worry about...

well look at what has happened since Nov 2016. I'm not ready to give up constitutional rights, so quickly. Because if the government will do what they did to this President and those around him. Let them have a foot in that door, they kick it open.
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I understand your point.

People have to undergo a mandatory search if they want to board a plane.

While I personally think that's a violation, it's one that's been upheld. I don't see why banning backpacks at impromptu public protests couldn't be justified in the same contorted way that boarding a plane is.
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Screw the fourth amendment in these circumstances. We are dealing with law breakers and as such are subject to searches. How many times have you seen reality tv Cop programs? What's the first thing that these police do? Yeppers, they frisk. They frisk because it's to safeguard the cops lives. These protesters that are breaking windows and setting fires are BREAKING THE LAW! Why are you blind to this, law breakers are subject to a frisk in order to ensure they are not carrying weapons, ie. bricks, rocks, batons, mace, even spray paint because as far as I know graffiti IS A CRIME. Are these cops stupid or what? Are the AGs of the cities stupid? They are actually hindering and subjecting cops to harm and perhaps death by not allowing searches. Just remember that if anyone complains remind them that they are searching for everyone's protection including the protestors.

Because that's what it is...self preservation.

(06-01-2020 06:56 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 06:40 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 06:33 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

Hilarious. Wish I could’ve been that reporter. I would’ve had all 3 of them fighting mad

Does mommy’s little angel get terrorism charges?

Nope. Can’t happen.

(06-01-2020 07:48 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 01:00 PM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 12:54 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 10:32 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 06:49 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Law enforcement could put a stop to this Antifa bs by simply searching every “protester” that has a backpack. If you find a hammer, spray paint or other weapon in their possession, you lock them up. There is no reason for a peaceful protester to be in possession of these items.

When a “protester” is caught with one of these items, if they are a student, all their financial aid is stopped.
If they work, their social security number is flagged and they are no longer eligible to work in this country.

If they don’t respect this country, they don’t deserve to benefit from living here.

There's a major problem with letting police do that....

4th amendment

If we are OK with letting police search the backpacks then it's not long before its random people walking down the street getting searched. Including people not breaking any laws.

I understand why you are saying this but not long ago people were saying. If you dont have anything to worry about...

well look at what has happened since Nov 2016. I'm not ready to give up constitutional rights, so quickly. Because if the government will do what they did to this President and those around him. Let them have a foot in that door, they kick it open.

I understand your point.

People have to undergo a mandatory search if they want to board a plane.

While I personally think that's a violation, it's one that's been upheld. I don't see why banning backpacks at impromptu public protests couldn't be justified in the same contorted way that boarding a plane is.

Like I said there are laws already on the books to deal with this problem. Let the governor call a State of Emergency. As we seen for the last 3 or 4 months, they can then put into place the rules they want to. Like banning backpacks but I guess they could do that anyways.

I'm just not willing to give the government permission to intrude on my rights outside of a a State of Emergency. With the hope they only do it this one time. I dont trust them to do that.

Your two statements don't seem to agree with one another. First statement said that it was against the 4th Amendment to search backpacks. Second statement (above) states the governor can call a State of Emergency then "they can put into place the rules they want to". That was exactly what I was getting at when I said to let them search the backpacks of the protesters for now, then when things subside go back to how it was before (i.e. no search).

He said ban people carrying backpacks...not stop and search without cause. You have no rights to carry anything unless it says so in the Constitution, right to bear arms. So if the governor calls a State of Emergency and says no backpacks will be allowed in so and so area...

Nothing in the Constitution to say the governor cant do that. There's enough laws on the books to stop the rioters without suspending a Constitutional Right. In a nation that is depended on laws to keep it in order and free....

its either against the law or its not. There's no middle ground on lets forget our rights just this one time for this week or this month It either is or it either isnt

So let me ask are you willing to give up your 2nd amendment after every shooting? Same thing and you can bet the farm if we did it once....

(06-01-2020 08:16 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 06:49 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Law enforcement could put a stop to this Antifa bs by simply searching every “protester” that has a backpack. If you find a hammer, spray paint or other weapon in their possession, you lock them up. There is no reason for a peaceful protester to be in possession of these items.

When a “protester” is caught with one of these items, if they are a student, all their financial aid is stopped.
If they work, their social security number is flagged and they are no longer eligible to work in this country.

If they don’t respect this country, they don’t deserve to benefit from living here.

Muh Constitution.

Reasonable Cause

(06-01-2020 12:54 PM)umbluegray Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 10:32 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 06:49 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Law enforcement could put a stop to this Antifa bs by simply searching every “protester” that has a backpack. If you find a hammer, spray paint or other weapon in their possession, you lock them up. There is no reason for a peaceful protester to be in possession of these items.

When a “protester” is caught with one of these items, if they are a student, all their financial aid is stopped.
If they work, their social security number is flagged and they are no longer eligible to work in this country.

If they don’t respect this country, they don’t deserve to benefit from living here.

There's a major problem with letting police do that....

4th amendment

If we are OK with letting police search the backpacks then it's not long before its random people walking down the street getting searched. Including people not breaking any laws.

I understand why you are saying this but not long ago people were saying. If you dont have anything to worry about...

well look at what has happened since Nov 2016. I'm not ready to give up constitutional rights, so quickly. Because if the government will do what they did to this President and those around him. Let them have a foot in that door, they kick it open.

I understand your point.

People have to undergo a mandatory search if they want to board a plane.

While I personally think that's a violation, it's one that's been upheld. I don't see why banning backpacks at impromptu public protests couldn't be justified in the same contorted way that boarding a plane is.

Labeling Antifa Terrorists allows that to happen.

Would it be considered racial profiling to stop and frisk these pasty skinned white boys, dressed in black, carrying back packs at peaceful protests. Perhaps but I think we risk it.

(06-01-2020 10:32 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 06:49 AM)CardinalJim Wrote:  Law enforcement could put a stop to this Antifa bs by simply searching every “protester” that has a backpack. If you find a hammer, spray paint or other weapon in their possession, you lock them up. There is no reason for a peaceful protester to be in possession of these items.

When a “protester” is caught with one of these items, if they are a student, all their financial aid is stopped.
If they work, their social security number is flagged and they are no longer eligible to work in this country.

If they don’t respect this country, they don’t deserve to benefit from living here.

There's a major problem with letting police do that....

4th amendment

If we are OK with letting police search the backpacks then it's not long before its random people walking down the street getting searched. Including people not breaking any laws.

I understand why you are saying this but not long ago people were saying. If you dont have anything to worry about...

well look at what has happened since Nov 2016. I'm not ready to give up constitutional rights, so quickly. Because if the government will do what they did to this President and those around him. Let them have a foot in that door, they kick it open.

This is what you replied to. He did not say to "ban backpacks".

As to search without "probable cause" .... I'd say that "probable cause" threshold has been successfully passed. It is silly to think that your backpack is searched before flying in a commercial airplane. Your backpack is searched before attending a concert. Your backpack is searched before going in an amusement park. Your backpack is searched before going to a ball game, etc., etc., etc. BUT you can't search a backpack at a protest/riot?

(06-01-2020 07:02 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 06:57 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Let’s GOOOOOOO

But he’s a gooood boy.....

The little prick turned himself in to Pittsburgh Police. If we are lucky he’s someone’s girlfriend by now.

As a side note....

Do everyone of these little Antifa punks look like they have never seen sunlight?

(06-01-2020 09:57 PM)CardinalJim Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 07:02 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 06:57 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Let’s GOOOOOOO

But he’s a gooood boy.....

The little prick turned himself in to Pittsburgh Police. If we are lucky he’s someone’s girlfriend by now.

As a side note....

Do everyone of these little Antifa punks look like they have never seen sunlight?

Cave dwelling creatures of darkness! It's why they travel in gangs and whack old people and women with sticks and bats in order to feel bad. This is the definition of useless space taker.