(06-01-2020 02:53 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 02:44 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 01:16 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The President cannot criminalize membership in a domestic group... 1st amendment won’t allow it.

Perhaps not, but they can sure as hell arrest the criminals that are members.

Pretty sure membership in any organized criminal group is illegal. Conspiracy to commit crimes is illegal after all.

No it’s not. The only crime is committing a crime. It’s not a crime to wear a white sheet and proclaim how much you hate blacks... it’s just a crime to act on it.

(06-01-2020 03:24 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 02:53 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 02:44 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 01:16 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The President cannot criminalize membership in a domestic group... 1st amendment won’t allow it.

Perhaps not, but they can sure as hell arrest the criminals that are members.

Pretty sure membership in any organized criminal group is illegal. Conspiracy to commit crimes is illegal after all.

No it’s not. The only crime is committing a crime. It’s not a crime to wear a white sheet and proclaim how much you hate blacks... it’s just a crime to act on it.

I'm pretty sure that includes conspiracy to commit as well. In any case actual theft, actual vandalism, actual destruction of public monuments, actual arson, actual battery, and actual murder and attempted murder all qualify as crimes.

Wouldn't you say so?

And phone conversations or transmissions instructing them, or in the case of Ihlan's daughter conveying targets for looters, all qualify as well and prove intent.

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(06-01-2020 03:09 PM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  My guess is Dave has found some new friends on the internet who he gets info from.

David isn't influenced by anyone. He's a lone wolf who does his own investigative reporting.

(06-01-2020 03:31 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 03:24 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 02:53 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 02:44 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 01:16 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  The President cannot criminalize membership in a domestic group... 1st amendment won’t allow it.

Perhaps not, but they can sure as hell arrest the criminals that are members.

Pretty sure membership in any organized criminal group is illegal. Conspiracy to commit crimes is illegal after all.

No it’s not. The only crime is committing a crime. It’s not a crime to wear a white sheet and proclaim how much you hate blacks... it’s just a crime to act on it.

I'm pretty sure that includes conspiracy to commit as well. In any case actual theft, actual vandalism, actual destruction of public monuments, actual arson, actual battery, and actual murder and attempted murder all qualify as crimes.

Wouldn't you say so?

And phone conversations or transmissions instructing them, or in the case of Ihlan's daughter conveying targets for looters, all qualify as well and prove intent.

All are crimes and those caught will be prosecuted for theft, arson, battery, etc... but none will be prosecuted for being a “domestic terrorists”.

(06-01-2020 04:06 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 03:31 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 03:24 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 02:53 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 02:44 PM)JMUDunk Wrote:  Perhaps not, but they can sure as hell arrest the criminals that are members.

Pretty sure membership in any organized criminal group is illegal. Conspiracy to commit crimes is illegal after all.

No it’s not. The only crime is committing a crime. It’s not a crime to wear a white sheet and proclaim how much you hate blacks... it’s just a crime to act on it.

I'm pretty sure that includes conspiracy to commit as well. In any case actual theft, actual vandalism, actual destruction of public monuments, actual arson, actual battery, and actual murder and attempted murder all qualify as crimes.

Wouldn't you say so?

And phone conversations or transmissions instructing them, or in the case of Ihlan's daughter conveying targets for looters, all qualify as well and prove intent.

All are crimes and those caught will be prosecuted for theft, arson, battery, etc... but none will be prosecuted for being a “domestic terrorists”.

The organizers giving instructions will be investigated to see who pays them. Conspiracy would be the crime. Domestic Terrorist the label that permits Federal Law Enforcement the purview.

(06-01-2020 02:22 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 02:05 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 01:56 PM)TheOriginalBigApp Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 01:42 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Could you provide a list of domestic organizations currently recognized by the FBI as domestic terrorist organizations?

are you really this lazy to search List of Domestic Terror Groups yourself?

Just off the top of my head:

• Animal Liberation Front
• Earth Liberation Front
• Aryan Nation
• Black Liberation Army
• Weathermen
• Ku Klux Klan
• United Freedom Front
  

All very fine people I've been told.

And none of which are officially labeled terrorist organizations by the federal government. In order to be charged with “terrorism” the organization has to be on a list of 60 or so banned groups on file with the State Department and all of them are foreign. There is no federal charge of domestic terrorism.

they ALL are labeled Terrorist groups. Domestic terrorism is quite clearly outlined in US Code. I'd tell you which ones, but you're admittedly too f'ing lazy to look it up yourself so I'll let you flap in the wind.

I'm sorry the 14 yr olds on Reddit, your friends on IDT, Mother Jones and DailyKos hide reality from you.

Seriously though: How are you not banned here?

(06-01-2020 04:18 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

lol apparently that guy has been twitter detective'd. He's the South Carolina field coordinator for Bernie.

(06-01-2020 04:22 PM)TheOriginalBigApp Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 02:22 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 02:05 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 01:56 PM)TheOriginalBigApp Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 01:42 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Could you provide a list of domestic organizations currently recognized by the FBI as domestic terrorist organizations?

are you really this lazy to search List of Domestic Terror Groups yourself?

Just off the top of my head:

• Animal Liberation Front
• Earth Liberation Front
• Aryan Nation
• Black Liberation Army
• Weathermen
• Ku Klux Klan
• United Freedom Front
  

All very fine people I've been told.

And none of which are officially labeled terrorist organizations by the federal government. In order to be charged with “terrorism” the organization has to be on a list of 60 or so banned groups on file with the State Department and all of them are foreign. There is no federal charge of domestic terrorism.

they ALL are labeled Terrorist groups. Domestic terrorism is quite clearly outlined in US Code. I'd tell you which ones, but you're admittedly too f'ing lazy to look it up yourself so I'll let you flap in the wind.

I'm sorry the 14 yr olds on Reddit, your friends on IDT, Mother Jones and DailyKos hide reality from you.

Seriously though: How are you not banned here?

then surely you’ll be able to provide an official link showing a list of domestic terrorist groups from the FBI or the DOJ. The State Department publishes such a list for terrorist groups, so surely the DOJ does too.

(06-01-2020 04:18 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

Oof, homeboy is about to get his door kicked in by the FBI. That's a shame.

I like to think he is furiously deleting all the evidence off his phone and computer, thinking they can't simply recover it all, compounding his charges.

(06-01-2020 04:50 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

She made it easy to arrest her and charge her for terrorism.

(06-01-2020 04:50 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

She was right there in the thick of the race until she lost by 74.4 points to the incumbent in the democratic primary.

So much for the there are millions of us thing.

BTW, has the designation been applied yet? I am curious to know how many professors, law enforcement, politicians, lawyers, etc are part of Antifa?

(06-01-2020 05:09 PM)hburg Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 04:50 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

She made it easy to arrest her and charge her for terrorism.

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(06-01-2020 06:10 PM)Billy_Bearcat Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 05:09 PM)hburg Wrote:  

(06-01-2020 04:50 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

She made it easy to arrest her and charge her for terrorism.

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You don’t wanna see this “woman”

(06-01-2020 06:33 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

Hilarious. Wish I could’ve been that reporter. I would’ve had all 3 of them fighting mad