https://twitter.com/ByTimReynolds/status...4232783872

https://twitter.com/ByTimReynolds/status...3557001216

https://twitter.com/CNNnewsroom/status/1...8927138817

YEAH BOY

Syracuse to reopen August 24th

Extended hours during the week
Instruction ends before Thanksgiving
Virtual Review session and Final Exams

https://www.syracuse.com/coronavirus/202...edule.html

Also heard from an inside source SU is planning on Football with fans. The only question is how many will be allowed? It might only be 10 or 20K

https://www.syracuse.com/orangefootball/...ssion=true

Doubt Cuse will be open by June 1st.…Hopefully by July 1st

(05-20-2020 01:23 PM)green Wrote:  

https://twitter.com/ByTimReynolds/status...4232783872

Should be an advantage for Miami then. They are used to playing in an empty stadium.

Miami loves to crank up their piped in crowd through their speakers.

What will they do now?

Kap is Clemson leaning to limited fans?

If they issue effective masks and require everybody at the stadium to wear one, why couldn't they fill up? Maybe 50% capacity? It doesn't have to be all-or-nothing.

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(05-21-2020 12:34 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  If they issue effective masks and require everybody at the stadium to wear one, why couldn't they fill up? Maybe 50% capacity? It doesn't have to be all-or-nothing.

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You aren't going to want to sit through a football game wearing a N95 respirator.

(05-21-2020 01:41 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(05-21-2020 12:34 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  If they issue effective masks and require everybody at the stadium to wear one, why couldn't they fill up? Maybe 50% capacity? It doesn't have to be all-or-nothing.

X O X O
O X O X

You aren't going to want to sit through a football game wearing a N95 respirator.

It has to be better than 2 weeks in the hospital with a 2% to 12% chance of never going home...

(05-21-2020 05:44 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(05-21-2020 01:41 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(05-21-2020 12:34 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  If they issue effective masks and require everybody at the stadium to wear one, why couldn't they fill up? Maybe 50% capacity? It doesn't have to be all-or-nothing.

X O X O
O X O X

You aren't going to want to sit through a football game wearing a N95 respirator.

It has to be better than 2 weeks in the hospital with a 2% to 12% chance of never going home...

You've obviously never worn one. Go try it for an hour and get back to us. Of course first you'll have to find someone who will professionally fit test it to you and that's going to cost you anywhere from $25-$50. Otherwise you might as well wear one of the useless homemade cloth masks that everyone feels suddenly circumvents the science behind PPE and offers protection from microscopic viruses.


Or you can stop being scared shitless of a virus that less than 1/2 of a percent of the US population has.

There is a fact of life in Division I athletics that cannot be ignored. Football is responsible for 85% of an athletic department's revenue—if not more. At many schools the only other sport that pays its way is men's basketball, although a few and a I mean... a very few others..... wrestling or hockey programs provide financial support, and women's basketball comes close to avoiding red ink. Again that is a very few!!!

Translation: If football can't be played, schools most likely will have to cancel all sports.

And don't get caught up on the idea that they could play football in the spring. It would be ill-advised to think schools could play in March, April and May, and expect players to be back in camp the following August for the start of another season.

Translation: There will be sports in the fall! Thank God for Football! Go Jackets!

(05-21-2020 06:50 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(05-21-2020 05:44 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(05-21-2020 01:41 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(05-21-2020 12:34 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  If they issue effective masks and require everybody at the stadium to wear one, why couldn't they fill up? Maybe 50% capacity? It doesn't have to be all-or-nothing.

X O X O
O X O X

You aren't going to want to sit through a football game wearing a N95 respirator.

It has to be better than 2 weeks in the hospital with a 2% to 12% chance of never going home...

You've obviously never worn one. Go try it for an hour and get back to us. Of course first you'll have to find someone who will professionally fit test it to you and that's going to cost you anywhere from $25-$50. Otherwise you might as well wear one of the useless homemade cloth masks that everyone feels suddenly circumvents the science behind PPE and offers protection from microscopic viruses.


Or you can stop being scared shitless of a virus that less than 1/2 of a percent of the US population has.

I'm not scared, but I'm not foolish either.

(05-23-2020 11:33 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(05-21-2020 06:50 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(05-21-2020 05:44 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(05-21-2020 01:41 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(05-21-2020 12:34 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  If they issue effective masks and require everybody at the stadium to wear one, why couldn't they fill up? Maybe 50% capacity? It doesn't have to be all-or-nothing.

X O X O
O X O X

You aren't going to want to sit through a football game wearing a N95 respirator.

It has to be better than 2 weeks in the hospital with a 2% to 12% chance of never going home...

You've obviously never worn one. Go try it for an hour and get back to us. Of course first you'll have to find someone who will professionally fit test it to you and that's going to cost you anywhere from $25-$50. Otherwise you might as well wear one of the useless homemade cloth masks that everyone feels suddenly circumvents the science behind PPE and offers protection from microscopic viruses.


Or you can stop being scared shitless of a virus that less than 1/2 of a percent of the US population has.

I'm not scared, but I'm not foolish either.

You are if you think you are going to sit through a football game wearing an N95 respirator.

Heard this morning that Patrick Ewing is hospitalized with the virus. Hoping he pulls thru. He was a New Yorker for many years when he played for the Knicks. I always felt that the fewer Georgetown fans the better. But I never wish this sort of thing on anyone.

Random thoughts:

*Football WILL be played this fall. I'm thrilled and can't wait.

*I think there will be a limit to % of fans allowed in stadium but I think it is more a move to make people feel good. I don't think anyone has any hard #s on 25% fans in stadium reduces risk this money, etc. I am sure 10% fans in stadium is better than 100%, but I highly doubt anyone settles on a % that does much more than virtue signal.....it will all be a guess. But that is all that is required.....much of this is a gesture because they are guessing.

*Everyone will be exposed to this virus eventually. I think some people think they can avoid this. They can't....only delay it. Healthcare is not overwhelmed...not even close.

*Everywhere I have been, people have been out and about. Life is moving on in most places. Next 30-60 days will really show this.

*Virus has helped people keep things cleaner, wash hands, etc. That's a positive.

*I think statistics are confusing people. The media LOVES the 100K have died. That is horrible of course, but I think some people look at the numbers in a vacuum, unaware of how many Americans normally die in the given time. How many would normally die from other things: Overweight, smoke, phemonia (this disease has amazingly stopped killing people.....think we found a cure or does it just get recorded differently now?).

*What is to stop China from continuing to put us at risk? If anything, they have been incentivized. I expect more because it has shown we are easy to weaken from within. They have risking practices, govt lied, and the US media covered for authoritarian Chinese govt. Pretty sweet weapon for them sadly. I fear we see more.

(05-23-2020 12:50 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(05-23-2020 11:33 AM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(05-21-2020 06:50 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(05-21-2020 05:44 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(05-21-2020 01:41 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  You aren't going to want to sit through a football game wearing a N95 respirator.

It has to be better than 2 weeks in the hospital with a 2% to 12% chance of never going home...

You've obviously never worn one. Go try it for an hour and get back to us. Of course first you'll have to find someone who will professionally fit test it to you and that's going to cost you anywhere from $25-$50. Otherwise you might as well wear one of the useless homemade cloth masks that everyone feels suddenly circumvents the science behind PPE and offers protection from microscopic viruses.


Or you can stop being scared shitless of a virus that less than 1/2 of a percent of the US population has.

I'm not scared, but I'm not foolish either.

You are if you think you are going to sit through a football game wearing an N95 respirator.

Kinda like a CPAP machine?

(05-23-2020 09:30 PM)nole Wrote:  Random thoughts:

*Football WILL be played this fall. I'm thrilled and can't wait.

*I think there will be a limit to % of fans allowed in stadium but I think it is more a move to make people feel good. I don't think anyone has any hard #s on 25% fans in stadium reduces risk this money, etc. I am sure 10% fans in stadium is better than 100%, but I highly doubt anyone settles on a % that does much more than virtue signal.....it will all be a guess. But that is all that is required.....much of this is a gesture because they are guessing.

*Everyone will be exposed to this virus eventually. I think some people think they can avoid this. They can't....only delay it. Healthcare is not overwhelmed...not even close.

*Everywhere I have been, people have been out and about. Life is moving on in most places. Next 30-60 days will really show this.

*Virus has helped people keep things cleaner, wash hands, etc. That's a positive.

*I think statistics are confusing people. The media LOVES the 100K have died. That is horrible of course, but I think some people look at the numbers in a vacuum, unaware of how many Americans normally die in the given time. How many would normally die from other things: Overweight, smoke, phemonia (this disease has amazingly stopped killing people.....think we found a cure or does it just get recorded differently now?).

*What is to stop China from continuing to put us at risk? If anything, they have been incentivized. I expect more because it has shown we are easy to weaken from within. They have risking practices, govt lied, and the US media covered for authoritarian Chinese govt. Pretty sweet weapon for them sadly. I fear we see more.

Excellent post, and I agree with nearly all of it. Obviously the bit about Chinese involvement is speculation - but there's reason to be suspicious.

(05-23-2020 08:56 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  There is a fact of life in Division I athletics that cannot be ignored. Football is responsible for 85% of an athletic department's revenue—if not more. At many schools the only other sport that pays its way is men's basketball, although a few and a I mean... a very few others..... wrestling or hockey programs provide financial support, and women's basketball comes close to avoiding red ink. Again that is a very few!!!

Translation: If football can't be played, schools most likely will have to cancel all sports.

And don't get caught up on the idea that they could play football in the spring. It would be ill-advised to think schools could play in March, April and May, and expect players to be back in camp the following August for the start of another season.

Translation: There will be sports in the fall! Thank God for Football! Go Jackets!

This is total

The football team finished with $39,942,191 in total operating revenue and a surplus (profit) of $16,528,127, while the men’s basketball team added $27,185,676 in total operating revenue and a surplus (profit) of $15,878,561.

https://247sports.com/college/north-caro...146841152/

At Carolina, the basketball program generates almost as much profit as the football program even though the revenues are about $13 Million less.

(05-24-2020 07:05 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(05-23-2020 08:56 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  There is a fact of life in Division I athletics that cannot be ignored. Football is responsible for 85% of an athletic department's revenue—if not more. At many schools the only other sport that pays its way is men's basketball, although a few and a I mean... a very few others..... wrestling or hockey programs provide financial support, and women's basketball comes close to avoiding red ink. Again that is a very few!!!

Translation: If football can't be played, schools most likely will have to cancel all sports.

And don't get caught up on the idea that they could play football in the spring. It would be ill-advised to think schools could play in March, April and May, and expect players to be back in camp the following August for the start of another season.

Translation: There will be sports in the fall! Thank God for Football! Go Jackets!

This is total

The football team finished with $39,942,191 in total operating revenue and a surplus (profit) of $16,528,127, while the men’s basketball team added $27,185,676 in total operating revenue and a surplus (profit) of $15,878,561.

https://247sports.com/college/north-caro...146841152/

At Carolina, the basketball program generates almost as much profit as the football program even though the revenues are about $13 Million less.

Division I athletics (includes SEC/ACC/BIG12/PAC12/BIG/AAC/MWC/CUSA/SUNBELT and many more when you look at FCS) Take the time to chang my mind.... Show me a break out where Carolina is not in the (Very Few) I mention and they are the Norm and where FB is not the King in revenue..... I think you are Cherry picking becuase your school is one of the very few

(05-24-2020 08:05 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  

(05-24-2020 07:05 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(05-23-2020 08:56 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  There is a fact of life in Division I athletics that cannot be ignored. Football is responsible for 85% of an athletic department's revenue—if not more. At many schools the only other sport that pays its way is men's basketball, although a few and a I mean... a very few others..... wrestling or hockey programs provide financial support, and women's basketball comes close to avoiding red ink. Again that is a very few!!!

Translation: If football can't be played, schools most likely will have to cancel all sports.

And don't get caught up on the idea that they could play football in the spring. It would be ill-advised to think schools could play in March, April and May, and expect players to be back in camp the following August for the start of another season.

Translation: There will be sports in the fall! Thank God for Football! Go Jackets!

This is total

The football team finished with $39,942,191 in total operating revenue and a surplus (profit) of $16,528,127, while the men’s basketball team added $27,185,676 in total operating revenue and a surplus (profit) of $15,878,561.

https://247sports.com/college/north-caro...146841152/

At Carolina, the basketball program generates almost as much profit as the football program even though the revenues are about $13 Million less.

Division I athletics (includes SEC/ACC/BIG12/PAC12/BIG/AAC/MWC/CUSA/SUNBELT and many more when you look at FCS) Take the time to chang my mind.... Show me a break out where Carolina is not in the (Very Few) I mention and they are the Norm and where FB is not the King in revenue..... I think you are Cherry picking becuase your school is one of the very few

I dont normally agree with Xlance on a variety of topics. But he is absolutely correct on this matter. I am sure there are many, many schools where basketball accounts for more than 15% of a schools revenue and profit. Syracuse, Duke, UNC and Louisville all have huge basketball revenues that are larger than many schools football revenues. Especially for Louisville which has the largest basketball revenues of any program. I have to think that schools like Michigan State and Arizona aand Indiana and UCLA take in huge basketball revenues that are in excess of 15% of its AD. Even a school like Clemson and Bama bb revenues may be more than 15% of revenue.

(05-24-2020 10:51 AM)cuseroc Wrote:  

(05-24-2020 08:05 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  

(05-24-2020 07:05 AM)XLance Wrote:  

(05-23-2020 08:56 AM)GTFletch Wrote:  There is a fact of life in Division I athletics that cannot be ignored. Football is responsible for 85% of an athletic department's revenue—if not more. At many schools the only other sport that pays its way is men's basketball, although a few and a I mean... a very few others..... wrestling or hockey programs provide financial support, and women's basketball comes close to avoiding red ink. Again that is a very few!!!

Translation: If football can't be played, schools most likely will have to cancel all sports.

And don't get caught up on the idea that they could play football in the spring. It would be ill-advised to think schools could play in March, April and May, and expect players to be back in camp the following August for the start of another season.

Translation: There will be sports in the fall! Thank God for Football! Go Jackets!

This is total

The football team finished with $39,942,191 in total operating revenue and a surplus (profit) of $16,528,127, while the men’s basketball team added $27,185,676 in total operating revenue and a surplus (profit) of $15,878,561.

https://247sports.com/college/north-caro...146841152/

At Carolina, the basketball program generates almost as much profit as the football program even though the revenues are about $13 Million less.

Division I athletics (includes SEC/ACC/BIG12/PAC12/BIG/AAC/MWC/CUSA/SUNBELT and many more when you look at FCS) Take the time to chang my mind.... Show me a break out where Carolina is not in the (Very Few) I mention and they are the Norm and where FB is not the King in revenue..... I think you are Cherry picking becuase your school is one of the very few

I dont normally agree with Xlance on a variety of topics. But he is absolutely correct on this matter. I am sure there are many, many schools where basketball accounts for more than 15% of a schools revenue and profit. Syracuse, Duke, UNC and Louisville all have huge basketball revenues that are larger than many schools football revenues. Especially for Louisville which has the largest basketball revenues of any program. I have to think that schools like Michigan State and Arizona aand Indiana and UCLA take in huge basketball revenues that are in excess of 15% of its AD. Even a school like Clemson and Bama bb revenues may be more than 15% of revenue.

FOR THE RECORD:

FACT: There are 347 DI Schools across 49 different states.

FACT: Football garners more revenue than the next 35 other sports combined at Division I schools. On average, football brings in $31.9 million in revenue, while men's basketball (the second-highest grossing sport) comes in a distant second at $8.1 million. For reference, women's basketball brings in $1.8 million, while rowing brings in just $932,646.

Link
https://finance.zacks.com/much-money-col...10346.html

Quit cherry picking and brings some facts or data to support your disagreemnt with my original statement:

There is a fact of life in Division I athletics that cannot be ignored. Football is responsible for 85% of an athletic department's revenue—if not more. At many schools the only other sport that pays its way is men's basketball, although a few and a I mean... a very few others..... wrestling or hockey programs provide financial support, and women's basketball comes close to avoiding red ink. Again that is a very few!!!

Translation: If football can't be played, schools most likely will have to cancel all sports.

And don't get caught up on the idea that they could play football in the spring. It would be ill-advised to think schools could play in March, April and May, and expect players to be back in camp the following August for the start of another season.

Translation: There will be sports in the fall! Thank God for Football! Go Jackets!