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RE: Heflin Entering Transfer Portal (Brinkman & Perez as well potentially)
(05-23-2020 07:59 AM)Big Red Wrote: (05-23-2020 07:45 AM)thxjoenovak Wrote: All 3 guys in the title of this thread were red-shirt Seniors.
Maybe we need to burn more red shirts early so there’s less chance of this?
That’s probably an idiotic statement on my part as there’s no crystal ball into the future. Just frustrating
Out of curiosity. What do you mean by "burn more red shirts early"?
I’m thinking that RS-Seniors are more likely to transfer than a 4th year senior.
Again...that may not make sense and I deserve a
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RE: Heflin Entering Transfer Portal (Brinkman & Perez as well potentially)
According to the video I posted. Heflin was a walk-on. He earned his spot on the squad, that Carey gave him.
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RE: Heflin Entering Transfer Portal (Brinkman & Perez as well potentially)
(05-21-2020 08:02 PM)NIU007 Wrote: (05-21-2020 07:19 PM)prairiedawg Wrote: NIU gave him a chance not Iowa. Pretty weak.
Exactly. He had no loyalty not just to NIU but to his teammates.
Wait now...... I am sure everyone on this message board is not in the same
entry level position they hired into.
I am sure some have even moved on or taken a promotion
somewhere else that offered more.
It was the head coach who decided to tear this team down.
Not the players. Some of his "teammates" as you say were even demoted.
So the incoming coaching staff has not shown the loyalty that you speak of.
So don't blame a player for taking an opportunity to take a step up and play
big time college football at Iowa. Any competitor worth his salt would jump at the opportunity.
He was a walk on that earned everything he got at NIU and he also earned
this opportunity. Wish him all the best.
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RE: Heflin Entering Transfer Portal (Brinkman & Perez as well potentially)
(05-23-2020 10:34 AM)leguptopee Wrote: (05-21-2020 08:02 PM)NIU007 Wrote: (05-21-2020 07:19 PM)prairiedawg Wrote: NIU gave him a chance not Iowa. Pretty weak.
Exactly. He had no loyalty not just to NIU but to his teammates.
Wait now...... I am sure everyone on this message board is not in the same
entry level position they hired into.
I am sure some have even moved on or taken a promotion
somewhere else that offered more.
It was the head coach who decided to tear this team down.
Not the players. Some of his "teammates" as you say were even demoted.
So the incoming coaching staff has not shown the loyalty that you speak of.
So don't blame a player for taking an opportunity to take a step up and play
big time college football at Iowa. Any competitor worth his salt would jump at the opportunity.
He was a walk on that earned everything he got at NIU and he also earned
this opportunity. Wish him all the best.
+1000
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RE: Heflin Entering Transfer Portal (Brinkman & Perez as well potentially)
(05-23-2020 10:51 AM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote: (05-23-2020 10:34 AM)leguptopee Wrote: (05-21-2020 08:02 PM)NIU007 Wrote: (05-21-2020 07:19 PM)prairiedawg Wrote: NIU gave him a chance not Iowa. Pretty weak.
Exactly. He had no loyalty not just to NIU but to his teammates.
Wait now...... I am sure everyone on this message board is not in the same
entry level position they hired into.
I am sure some have even moved on or taken a promotion
somewhere else that offered more.
It was the head coach who decided to tear this team down.
Not the players. Some of his "teammates" as you say were even demoted.
So the incoming coaching staff has not shown the loyalty that you speak of.
So don't blame a player for taking an opportunity to take a step up and play
big time college football at Iowa. Any competitor worth his salt would jump at the opportunity.
He was a walk on that earned everything he got at NIU and he also earned
this opportunity. Wish him all the best.
+1000
Sorry, thought this was college football there for a second.
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RE: Heflin Entering Transfer Portal (Brinkman & Perez as well potentially)
(05-23-2020 10:11 AM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote: According to the video I posted. Heflin was a walk-on. He earned his spot on the squad, that Carey gave him.
Did Heflin no longer have a scholarship? Otherwise, I don't know why this matters. Iowa gave him nothing. Seems like you really have to be desperate to go to a place that didn't give you a chance to begin with. Chances are he sits on the bench like 95% of players leaving NIU.
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RE: Heflin Entering Transfer Portal (Brinkman & Perez as well potentially)
(05-22-2020 07:10 AM)Big Red Wrote: (05-22-2020 06:50 AM)NIU007 Wrote: One of the advantages the NFL has is that they can have a star player for several years or even longer. They become a selling point. College football doesn't have that since most have only 4 years. If it's going to start being less than that, college football loses much of its attraction. Imagine Lynch playing in the Orange Bowl and then transferring to a different school for his senior year. This is the kind of thing that could kill college football attendance if other stuff doesn't.
The "one-and-done" hasn't killed the Power 5 basketball conferences and those guys are legit stars.
The few places that have the one and dones regularly are the top schools in Division I. They can afford it because they can attract new talent like that. Nobody else can.
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RE: Heflin Entering Transfer Portal (Brinkman & Perez as well potentially)
(05-23-2020 11:35 AM)NIU007 Wrote: Did Heflin no longer have a scholarship? Otherwise, I don't know why this matters. Iowa gave him nothing. Seems like you really have to be desperate to go to a place that didn't give you a chance to begin with. Chances are he sits on the bench like 95% of players leaving NIU.
Nah, he's going to play significant minutes, and might start by midseason. Iowa's upperclassmen DT situation is one stud and two try-hards. They do have some promising underclassman, but upperclassman usually get the nod at that position. Heflin fills a pretty big hole for Iowa this year.
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RE: Heflin Entering Transfer Portal (Brinkman & Perez as well potentially)
(05-23-2020 11:35 AM)NIU007 Wrote: (05-23-2020 10:11 AM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote: According to the video I posted. Heflin was a walk-on. He earned his spot on the squad, that Carey gave him.
Did Heflin no longer have a scholarship? Otherwise, I don't know why this matters. Iowa gave him nothing. Seems like you really have to be desperate to go to a place that didn't give you a chance to begin with. Chances are he sits on the bench like 95% of players leaving NIU.
Heflin is a pro prospect. He not only plays he may star. Very likely he gets drafted, he ain't sitting.
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RE: Heflin Entering Transfer Portal (Brinkman & Perez as well potentially)
(05-23-2020 11:35 AM)NIU007 Wrote: (05-23-2020 10:11 AM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote: According to the video I posted. Heflin was a walk-on. He earned his spot on the squad, that Carey gave him.
Did Heflin no longer have a scholarship? Otherwise, I don't know why this matters. Iowa gave him nothing. Seems like you really have to be desperate to go to a place that didn't give you a chance to begin with. Chances are he sits on the bench like 95% of players leaving NIU.
What does he owe NIU? They didn't believe enough in him out of high school to offer him a scholarship. He had to fight for it, and the dude that recognized his feats is gone.
He's taking a huge gamble, but if it pays off, he will get a chance to produce on a national stage.
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RE: Heflin Entering Transfer Portal (Brinkman & Perez as well potentially)
Parts of this discussion read a lot like what was posted when Tre Harbison said he was transferring out. Just sayin'.
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RE: Heflin Entering Transfer Portal (Brinkman & Perez as well potentially)
(05-23-2020 03:02 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote: (05-23-2020 11:35 AM)NIU007 Wrote: (05-23-2020 10:11 AM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote: According to the video I posted. Heflin was a walk-on. He earned his spot on the squad, that Carey gave him.
Did Heflin no longer have a scholarship? Otherwise, I don't know why this matters. Iowa gave him nothing. Seems like you really have to be desperate to go to a place that didn't give you a chance to begin with. Chances are he sits on the bench like 95% of players leaving NIU.
What does he owe NIU? They didn't believe enough in him out of high school to offer him a scholarship. He had to fight for it, and the dude that recognized his feats is gone.
He's taking a huge gamble, but if it pays off, he will get a chance to produce on a national stage.
You sound happy he transferred, weird.
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RE: Heflin Entering Transfer Portal (Brinkman & Perez as well potentially)
(05-23-2020 03:55 PM)prairiedawg Wrote: (05-23-2020 03:02 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote: (05-23-2020 11:35 AM)NIU007 Wrote: (05-23-2020 10:11 AM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote: According to the video I posted. Heflin was a walk-on. He earned his spot on the squad, that Carey gave him.
Did Heflin no longer have a scholarship? Otherwise, I don't know why this matters. Iowa gave him nothing. Seems like you really have to be desperate to go to a place that didn't give you a chance to begin with. Chances are he sits on the bench like 95% of players leaving NIU.
What does he owe NIU? They didn't believe enough in him out of high school to offer him a scholarship. He had to fight for it, and the dude that recognized his feats is gone.
He's taking a huge gamble, but if it pays off, he will get a chance to produce on a national stage.
You sound happy he transferred, weird.
No. This definitely sucks. I don't see as easy of a replacement from him as we will have with Harbison. But this is the reality of being an underdog in college football.
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RE: Heflin Entering Transfer Portal (Brinkman & Perez as well potentially)
(05-23-2020 03:02 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote: (05-23-2020 11:35 AM)NIU007 Wrote: (05-23-2020 10:11 AM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote: According to the video I posted. Heflin was a walk-on. He earned his spot on the squad, that Carey gave him.
Did Heflin no longer have a scholarship? Otherwise, I don't know why this matters. Iowa gave him nothing. Seems like you really have to be desperate to go to a place that didn't give you a chance to begin with. Chances are he sits on the bench like 95% of players leaving NIU.
What does he owe NIU? They didn't believe enough in him out of high school to offer him a scholarship. He had to fight for it, and the dude that recognized his feats is gone.
He's taking a huge gamble, but if it pays off, he will get a chance to produce on a national stage.
NIU plays P5 teams every year. NIU players always get a chance to play on a national stage. It's not like Iowa is going to be in the so-called National Championship game anytime soon.
Apparently NIU offered him more than Iowa did, otherwise he would have gone to Iowa out of high school.
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RE: Heflin Entering Transfer Portal (Brinkman & Perez as well potentially)
(05-23-2020 04:23 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote: (05-23-2020 03:55 PM)prairiedawg Wrote: (05-23-2020 03:02 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote: (05-23-2020 11:35 AM)NIU007 Wrote: (05-23-2020 10:11 AM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote: According to the video I posted. Heflin was a walk-on. He earned his spot on the squad, that Carey gave him.
Did Heflin no longer have a scholarship? Otherwise, I don't know why this matters. Iowa gave him nothing. Seems like you really have to be desperate to go to a place that didn't give you a chance to begin with. Chances are he sits on the bench like 95% of players leaving NIU.
What does he owe NIU? They didn't believe enough in him out of high school to offer him a scholarship. He had to fight for it, and the dude that recognized his feats is gone.
He's taking a huge gamble, but if it pays off, he will get a chance to produce on a national stage.
You sound happy he transferred, weird.
No. This definitely sucks. I don't see as easy of a replacement from him as we will have with Harbison. But this is the reality of being an underdog in college football.
I feel worse about Heflin than Harbison, though Heflin at least finished the year. Harbison was not bad but the optimist in me says we can find somebody better at RB. We'll be thin on defense though. I guess I just repeated what you said, he will be harder to replace than Harbison.
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RE: Heflin Entering Transfer Portal (Brinkman & Perez as well potentially)
(05-23-2020 04:24 PM)NIU007 Wrote: (05-23-2020 03:02 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote: (05-23-2020 11:35 AM)NIU007 Wrote: (05-23-2020 10:11 AM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote: According to the video I posted. Heflin was a walk-on. He earned his spot on the squad, that Carey gave him.
Did Heflin no longer have a scholarship? Otherwise, I don't know why this matters. Iowa gave him nothing. Seems like you really have to be desperate to go to a place that didn't give you a chance to begin with. Chances are he sits on the bench like 95% of players leaving NIU.
What does he owe NIU? They didn't believe enough in him out of high school to offer him a scholarship. He had to fight for it, and the dude that recognized his feats is gone.
He's taking a huge gamble, but if it pays off, he will get a chance to produce on a national stage.
NIU plays P5 teams every year. NIU players always get a chance to play on a national stage. It's not like Iowa is going to be in the so-called National Championship game anytime soon.
Apparently NIU offered him more than Iowa did, otherwise he would have gone to Iowa out of high school.
The only thing he got from NIU gave him that Iowa didn't, was in-state tuition. Heflin will be able to play in the Big Ten, in front of a stadium that fills at least 80% of its capacity for each game. He graduated from NIU, and now he gets to live his dream out and play for the team he always looked up to as a kid. Congrats to him, but big loss for us.
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RE: Heflin Entering Transfer Portal (Brinkman & Perez as well potentially)
(05-23-2020 04:26 PM)NIU007 Wrote: (05-23-2020 04:23 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote: (05-23-2020 03:55 PM)prairiedawg Wrote: (05-23-2020 03:02 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote: (05-23-2020 11:35 AM)NIU007 Wrote: Did Heflin no longer have a scholarship? Otherwise, I don't know why this matters. Iowa gave him nothing. Seems like you really have to be desperate to go to a place that didn't give you a chance to begin with. Chances are he sits on the bench like 95% of players leaving NIU.
What does he owe NIU? They didn't believe enough in him out of high school to offer him a scholarship. He had to fight for it, and the dude that recognized his feats is gone.
He's taking a huge gamble, but if it pays off, he will get a chance to produce on a national stage.
You sound happy he transferred, weird.
No. This definitely sucks. I don't see as easy of a replacement from him as we will have with Harbison. But this is the reality of being an underdog in college football.
I feel worse about Heflin than Harbison, though Heflin at least finished the year. Harbison was not bad but the optimist in me says we can find somebody better at RB. We'll be thin on defense though. I guess I just repeated what you said, he will be harder to replace than Harbison.
I think we got some great options at running back, and a coach who specializes in coaching up running backs. Harbison was good, but he's not NFL level talent like Heflin is. Kid is just good and he's got excellent size. We are going to miss this guy big.
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(05-23-2020 04:32 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote: (05-23-2020 04:26 PM)NIU007 Wrote: (05-23-2020 04:23 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote: (05-23-2020 03:55 PM)prairiedawg Wrote: (05-23-2020 03:02 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote: What does he owe NIU? They didn't believe enough in him out of high school to offer him a scholarship. He had to fight for it, and the dude that recognized his feats is gone.
He's taking a huge gamble, but if it pays off, he will get a chance to produce on a national stage.
You sound happy he transferred, weird.
No. This definitely sucks. I don't see as easy of a replacement from him as we will have with Harbison. But this is the reality of being an underdog in college football.
I feel worse about Heflin than Harbison, though Heflin at least finished the year. Harbison was not bad but the optimist in me says we can find somebody better at RB. We'll be thin on defense though. I guess I just repeated what you said, he will be harder to replace than Harbison.
I think we got some great options at running back, and a coach who specializes in coaching up running backs. Harbison was good, but he's not NFL level talent like Heflin is. Kid is just good and he's got excellent size. We are going to miss this guy big.
I wonder about the "coaching up running backs" even. You get a good running back and he's just good, coaching or not. You can't teach the kind of talent that some of the guys had that Hammock coached. I think you gotta get the players here in the first place is the important thing.
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RE: Heflin Entering Transfer Portal (Brinkman & Perez as well potentially)
(05-23-2020 04:43 PM)NIU007 Wrote: (05-23-2020 04:32 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote: (05-23-2020 04:26 PM)NIU007 Wrote: (05-23-2020 04:23 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote: (05-23-2020 03:55 PM)prairiedawg Wrote: You sound happy he transferred, weird.
No. This definitely sucks. I don't see as easy of a replacement from him as we will have with Harbison. But this is the reality of being an underdog in college football.
I feel worse about Heflin than Harbison, though Heflin at least finished the year. Harbison was not bad but the optimist in me says we can find somebody better at RB. We'll be thin on defense though. I guess I just repeated what you said, he will be harder to replace than Harbison.
I think we got some great options at running back, and a coach who specializes in coaching up running backs. Harbison was good, but he's not NFL level talent like Heflin is. Kid is just good and he's got excellent size. We are going to miss this guy big.
I wonder about the "coaching up running backs" even. You get a good running back and he's just good, coaching or not. You can't teach the kind of talent that some of the guys had that Hammock coached. I think you gotta get the players here in the first place is the important thing.
Gus Edwards wasn't anything. He was a backup in Miami and transferred To Rutgers, where he was also mediocre. Justin Forsett was bounced from multsiple teams, till he found success on the Ravens.
The Wisconsin running backs were probably all good beforehand. He's bringing in some great talent, like Jay Ducker.
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(05-23-2020 04:52 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote: (05-23-2020 04:43 PM)NIU007 Wrote: (05-23-2020 04:32 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote: (05-23-2020 04:26 PM)NIU007 Wrote: (05-23-2020 04:23 PM)HawaiiToNIU Wrote: No. This definitely sucks. I don't see as easy of a replacement from him as we will have with Harbison. But this is the reality of being an underdog in college football.
I feel worse about Heflin than Harbison, though Heflin at least finished the year. Harbison was not bad but the optimist in me says we can find somebody better at RB. We'll be thin on defense though. I guess I just repeated what you said, he will be harder to replace than Harbison.
I think we got some great options at running back, and a coach who specializes in coaching up running backs. Harbison was good, but he's not NFL level talent like Heflin is. Kid is just good and he's got excellent size. We are going to miss this guy big.
I wonder about the "coaching up running backs" even. You get a good running back and he's just good, coaching or not. You can't teach the kind of talent that some of the guys had that Hammock coached. I think you gotta get the players here in the first place is the important thing.
Gus Edwards wasn't anything. He was a backup in Miami and transferred To Rutgers, where he was also mediocre. Justin Forsett was bounced from multsiple teams, till he found success on the Ravens.
The Wisconsin running backs were probably all good beforehand. He's bringing in some great talent, like Jay Ducker.
I liked Forsett from the first time I saw him in the NFL. He was obviously good. Maybe he wasn't big enough for an everydown back but he certainly had the talent from day 1.
I hope you're right about the talent he's bringing in. The consensus on this board seems to be optimistic in that regard. We've been missing the great RBs we used to have.
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