(05-05-2020 06:57 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 02:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 01:22 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 01:17 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 01:13 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  This doesn't pass the eye test for me. She told others who "corroborated' the time and place and if JB wasn't there it all sounds very "Ford-ish".

Actually NOBODY corroborated Ford. Her 3 friends all denied it.

True, but that is why I said Ford-ish.

Unless she said something else later, this is FAR from a denial. She is just saying she can't confirm it. Which makes sense as Ford never said she was in the room IIRC.

Quote:(CNN)Leland Ingham Keyser, a friend of the woman accusing Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault when they were at a party in high school, does not refute the veracity of the allegation, although she does not remember the alleged incident, her lawyer said in a letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee.

The accuser, Christine Blasey Ford, claims that during a party in the early 1980s at which Keyser and several others were present, Kavanaugh drunkenly pushed her into a bedroom, pinned her down and attempted to remove her clothes before she was able to escape. Kavanaugh has vehemently denied the allegation.

"Ms. Keyser does not refute Dr. Ford's account, and she has already told the press that she believes Dr. Ford's account," Keyser's attorney, Howard Walsh, wrote in the letter, which was sent to the committee overnight Friday. "However, the simple and unchangeable truth is that she is unable to corroborate it because she has no recollection of the incident in question."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/29/politics/...index.html

Still defending Ford while dismissing Tara. SMH.

What is funny is that he quotes an article where the person admits they have no knowledge or memory of the actual event....BUT...she BELIEVES her.

(05-05-2020 06:57 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 02:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 01:22 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 01:17 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 01:13 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  This doesn't pass the eye test for me. She told others who "corroborated' the time and place and if JB wasn't there it all sounds very "Ford-ish".

Actually NOBODY corroborated Ford. Her 3 friends all denied it.

True, but that is why I said Ford-ish.

Unless she said something else later, this is FAR from a denial. She is just saying she can't confirm it. Which makes sense as Ford never said she was in the room IIRC.

Quote:(CNN)Leland Ingham Keyser, a friend of the woman accusing Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault when they were at a party in high school, does not refute the veracity of the allegation, although she does not remember the alleged incident, her lawyer said in a letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee.

The accuser, Christine Blasey Ford, claims that during a party in the early 1980s at which Keyser and several others were present, Kavanaugh drunkenly pushed her into a bedroom, pinned her down and attempted to remove her clothes before she was able to escape. Kavanaugh has vehemently denied the allegation.

"Ms. Keyser does not refute Dr. Ford's account, and she has already told the press that she believes Dr. Ford's account," Keyser's attorney, Howard Walsh, wrote in the letter, which was sent to the committee overnight Friday. "However, the simple and unchangeable truth is that she is unable to corroborate it because she has no recollection of the incident in question."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/29/politics/...index.html

Still defending Ford while dismissing Tara. SMH.

Nope, not at all. I believe that Biden probably touched her at some point and likely said something untoward. That being said, claiming he shoved his fingers somewhere private is a little more serious and needs proper/more vetting. And to remind you again, I'm not a Biden supporter AT ALL, and am not planning on voting for him.

(05-05-2020 07:07 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(05-05-2020 06:57 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 02:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 01:22 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 01:17 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Actually NOBODY corroborated Ford. Her 3 friends all denied it.

True, but that is why I said Ford-ish.

Unless she said something else later, this is FAR from a denial. She is just saying she can't confirm it. Which makes sense as Ford never said she was in the room IIRC.

Quote:(CNN)Leland Ingham Keyser, a friend of the woman accusing Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault when they were at a party in high school, does not refute the veracity of the allegation, although she does not remember the alleged incident, her lawyer said in a letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee.

The accuser, Christine Blasey Ford, claims that during a party in the early 1980s at which Keyser and several others were present, Kavanaugh drunkenly pushed her into a bedroom, pinned her down and attempted to remove her clothes before she was able to escape. Kavanaugh has vehemently denied the allegation.

"Ms. Keyser does not refute Dr. Ford's account, and she has already told the press that she believes Dr. Ford's account," Keyser's attorney, Howard Walsh, wrote in the letter, which was sent to the committee overnight Friday. "However, the simple and unchangeable truth is that she is unable to corroborate it because she has no recollection of the incident in question."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/29/politics/...index.html

Still defending Ford while dismissing Tara. SMH.

What is funny is that he quotes an article where the person admits they have no knowledge or memory of the actual event....BUT...she BELIEVES her.

So? When you know people personally, you tend to get a sense of whether they are lying or not.

(05-05-2020 07:22 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-05-2020 07:07 AM)GrayBeard Wrote:  

(05-05-2020 06:57 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 02:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 01:22 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  True, but that is why I said Ford-ish.

Unless she said something else later, this is FAR from a denial. She is just saying she can't confirm it. Which makes sense as Ford never said she was in the room IIRC.

Quote:(CNN)Leland Ingham Keyser, a friend of the woman accusing Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault when they were at a party in high school, does not refute the veracity of the allegation, although she does not remember the alleged incident, her lawyer said in a letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee.

The accuser, Christine Blasey Ford, claims that during a party in the early 1980s at which Keyser and several others were present, Kavanaugh drunkenly pushed her into a bedroom, pinned her down and attempted to remove her clothes before she was able to escape. Kavanaugh has vehemently denied the allegation.

"Ms. Keyser does not refute Dr. Ford's account, and she has already told the press that she believes Dr. Ford's account," Keyser's attorney, Howard Walsh, wrote in the letter, which was sent to the committee overnight Friday. "However, the simple and unchangeable truth is that she is unable to corroborate it because she has no recollection of the incident in question."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/29/politics/...index.html

Still defending Ford while dismissing Tara. SMH.

What is funny is that he quotes an article where the person admits they have no knowledge or memory of the actual event....BUT...she BELIEVES her.

So? When you know people personally, you tend to get a sense of whether they are lying or not.

So we are going to go on people's feelings and not actual evidence. That only flies for you because it lines up with what you choose to believe. Pathetic.

(05-05-2020 07:21 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-05-2020 06:57 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 02:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 01:22 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 01:17 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  Actually NOBODY corroborated Ford. Her 3 friends all denied it.

True, but that is why I said Ford-ish.

Unless she said something else later, this is FAR from a denial. She is just saying she can't confirm it. Which makes sense as Ford never said she was in the room IIRC.

Quote:(CNN)Leland Ingham Keyser, a friend of the woman accusing Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault when they were at a party in high school, does not refute the veracity of the allegation, although she does not remember the alleged incident, her lawyer said in a letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee.

The accuser, Christine Blasey Ford, claims that during a party in the early 1980s at which Keyser and several others were present, Kavanaugh drunkenly pushed her into a bedroom, pinned her down and attempted to remove her clothes before she was able to escape. Kavanaugh has vehemently denied the allegation.

"Ms. Keyser does not refute Dr. Ford's account, and she has already told the press that she believes Dr. Ford's account," Keyser's attorney, Howard Walsh, wrote in the letter, which was sent to the committee overnight Friday. "However, the simple and unchangeable truth is that she is unable to corroborate it because she has no recollection of the incident in question."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/29/politics/...index.html

Still defending Ford while dismissing Tara. SMH.

Nope, not at all. I believe that Biden probably touched her at some point and likely said something untoward. That being said, claiming he shoved his fingers somewhere private is a little more serious and needs proper/more vetting. And to remind you again, I'm not a Biden supporter AT ALL, and am not planning on voting for him.

If this is true, why are you so active in this thread. It shouldn’t be any concern of yours. As a matter of fact you should be demanding Sloe step down so someone you support could replace him. Maybe even someone with a snowballs chance. But no, you hover around this topic defending Sloe and casting whataboutisms toward Trump. Sorry, I don’t believe your claims of not supporting Biden.

(05-05-2020 07:35 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(05-05-2020 07:21 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-05-2020 06:57 AM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 02:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 01:22 PM)Eldonabe Wrote:  True, but that is why I said Ford-ish.

Unless she said something else later, this is FAR from a denial. She is just saying she can't confirm it. Which makes sense as Ford never said she was in the room IIRC.

Quote:(CNN)Leland Ingham Keyser, a friend of the woman accusing Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault when they were at a party in high school, does not refute the veracity of the allegation, although she does not remember the alleged incident, her lawyer said in a letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee.

The accuser, Christine Blasey Ford, claims that during a party in the early 1980s at which Keyser and several others were present, Kavanaugh drunkenly pushed her into a bedroom, pinned her down and attempted to remove her clothes before she was able to escape. Kavanaugh has vehemently denied the allegation.

"Ms. Keyser does not refute Dr. Ford's account, and she has already told the press that she believes Dr. Ford's account," Keyser's attorney, Howard Walsh, wrote in the letter, which was sent to the committee overnight Friday. "However, the simple and unchangeable truth is that she is unable to corroborate it because she has no recollection of the incident in question."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/29/politics/...index.html

Still defending Ford while dismissing Tara. SMH.

Nope, not at all. I believe that Biden probably touched her at some point and likely said something untoward. That being said, claiming he shoved his fingers somewhere private is a little more serious and needs proper/more vetting. And to remind you again, I'm not a Biden supporter AT ALL, and am not planning on voting for him.

If this is true, why are you so active in this thread. It shouldn’t be any concern of yours. As a matter of fact you should be demanding Sloe step down so someone you support could replace him. Maybe even someone with a snowballs chance. But no, you hover around this topic defending Sloe and casting whataboutisms toward Trump. Sorry, I don’t believe your claims of not supporting Biden.

He's just trying to recapture his water carrier status from the last election.

(05-05-2020 06:20 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 02:31 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 02:06 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 12:45 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 12:37 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  He should have just grabbed her by the ***** and kissed her. I hear they let you do that when you're rich and powerful. Just proves he's not presidential material these days. Sad.

P.S.: This is fake news. Biden was not at this party. But nevermind...carry on...

Like I wrote earlier - she may have simply misremembered the venue, the occasion or even the year. But since it's plausible Joe could do something like this then it's good enough for me. #believeallwomen

Then you believe all of the trump women accusers? Many of them have are not at all fuzzy on the where and when.

The topic is Joe Biden. Why are you trying to change the subject?

YOU posted the hashtag, you opened that subject. Sorry not sorry.

Nope. The topic in this thread is Joe Biden. You are using another dose of whataboutism to deflect from the Joe Biden discussion.

Good grief, people. We have videos and stills all over about Biden repeatedly touching women and young girls inappropriately in public. These incidents just corroborate the record that is already there.

(05-05-2020 08:46 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Good grief, people. We have videos and stills all over about Biden repeatedly touching women and young girls inappropriately in public. These incidents just corroborate the record that is already there.

What are you talking about? I haven’t heard that on the news shows. Nor have I read it in the papers. Stop spreading those lies. Especially when Trump owes the Chinese a hundred million dollars!

(05-05-2020 08:46 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Good grief, people. We have videos and stills all over about Biden repeatedly touching women and young girls inappropriately in public. These incidents just corroborate the record that is already there.

Oh right, you mean this incident that could not have possibly happened because Joe was not there. But we just assume it did.

Bless your heart.

(05-05-2020 07:54 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(05-05-2020 06:20 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 02:31 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 02:06 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 12:45 PM)miko33 Wrote:  Like I wrote earlier - she may have simply misremembered the venue, the occasion or even the year. But since it's plausible Joe could do something like this then it's good enough for me. #believeallwomen

Then you believe all of the trump women accusers? Many of them have are not at all fuzzy on the where and when.

The topic is Joe Biden. Why are you trying to change the subject?

YOU posted the hashtag, you opened that subject. Sorry not sorry.

Nope. The topic in this thread is Joe Biden. You are using another dose of whataboutism to deflect from the Joe Biden discussion.

Maybe I missed your promoting of that hashtag on the thread I started on trump's accusers. Perhaps you can link it for me?

(05-04-2020 02:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Unless she said something else later, this is FAR from a denial. She is just saying she can't confirm it. Which makes sense as Ford never said she was in the room IIRC.

Quote:(CNN)Leland Ingham Keyser, a friend of the woman accusing Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault when they were at a party in high school, does not refute the veracity of the allegation, although she does not remember the alleged incident, her lawyer said in a letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee.
The accuser, Christine Blasey Ford, claims that during a party in the early 1980s at which Keyser and several others were present, Kavanaugh drunkenly pushed her into a bedroom, pinned her down and attempted to remove her clothes before she was able to escape. Kavanaugh has vehemently denied the allegation.
"Ms. Keyser does not refute Dr. Ford's account, and she has already told the press that she believes Dr. Ford's account," Keyser's attorney, Howard Walsh, wrote in the letter, which was sent to the committee overnight Friday. "However, the simple and unchangeable truth is that she is unable to corroborate it because she has no recollection of the incident in question."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/29/politics/...index.html

But, and correct me if I'm wrong, but my recall is that Keyser was identified by Ford as someone who could corroborate the story and then did not. That may not quite be denial, but it's pretty damn close, particularly considering that others whom Ford identified as being able to corroborate also declined to do so.

(05-05-2020 09:33 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 02:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Unless she said something else later, this is FAR from a denial. She is just saying she can't confirm it. Which makes sense as Ford never said she was in the room IIRC.

Quote:(CNN)Leland Ingham Keyser, a friend of the woman accusing Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault when they were at a party in high school, does not refute the veracity of the allegation, although she does not remember the alleged incident, her lawyer said in a letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee.
The accuser, Christine Blasey Ford, claims that during a party in the early 1980s at which Keyser and several others were present, Kavanaugh drunkenly pushed her into a bedroom, pinned her down and attempted to remove her clothes before she was able to escape. Kavanaugh has vehemently denied the allegation.
"Ms. Keyser does not refute Dr. Ford's account, and she has already told the press that she believes Dr. Ford's account," Keyser's attorney, Howard Walsh, wrote in the letter, which was sent to the committee overnight Friday. "However, the simple and unchangeable truth is that she is unable to corroborate it because she has no recollection of the incident in question."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/29/politics/...index.html

But, and correct me if I'm wrong, but my recall is that Keyser was identified by Ford as someone who could corroborate the story and then did not. That may not quite be denial, but it's pretty damn close, particularly considering that others whom Ford identified as being able to corroborate also declined to do so.

I've been to numerous parties in houses with lots or people with close friends over 20 years ago. I cannot remember any details of any of them other than the apartment complexes where they took place, but not the specific apartment number or building. I likely would not remember anyone being pushed into a bedroom as I likely would not have even saw it.

That being said, if a close friend told me this happened to her, I'd likely believe her even though I could not take a witness stand today and confirm that I know something.

That's most likely what happened here.

(05-05-2020 09:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-05-2020 07:54 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(05-05-2020 06:20 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 02:31 PM)miko33 Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 02:06 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Then you believe all of the trump women accusers? Many of them have are not at all fuzzy on the where and when.

The topic is Joe Biden. Why are you trying to change the subject?

YOU posted the hashtag, you opened that subject. Sorry not sorry.

Nope. The topic in this thread is Joe Biden. You are using another dose of whataboutism to deflect from the Joe Biden discussion.

Maybe I missed your promoting of that hashtag on the thread I started on trump's accusers. Perhaps you can link it for me?

I didn't open that thread. Besides, I believe in due process when it pertains to the alleged accusers against Trump. I believe that people should be judged according to the standards that they are keeping. Biden bought into the identity politics, SJW antics, ANTIFA, BLM, etc. etc. It's only fair that Biden is judged by the standards he proposes for others. However...the MSM WON'T hold Biden to account.

I thought it was pretty obvious why I went this route. It's a shame you don't care to hold a serious conversation about the double standards.

(05-05-2020 09:38 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-05-2020 09:33 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 02:11 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Unless she said something else later, this is FAR from a denial. She is just saying she can't confirm it. Which makes sense as Ford never said she was in the room IIRC.

Quote:(CNN)Leland Ingham Keyser, a friend of the woman accusing Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh of sexual assault when they were at a party in high school, does not refute the veracity of the allegation, although she does not remember the alleged incident, her lawyer said in a letter to the Senate Judiciary Committee.
The accuser, Christine Blasey Ford, claims that during a party in the early 1980s at which Keyser and several others were present, Kavanaugh drunkenly pushed her into a bedroom, pinned her down and attempted to remove her clothes before she was able to escape. Kavanaugh has vehemently denied the allegation.
"Ms. Keyser does not refute Dr. Ford's account, and she has already told the press that she believes Dr. Ford's account," Keyser's attorney, Howard Walsh, wrote in the letter, which was sent to the committee overnight Friday. "However, the simple and unchangeable truth is that she is unable to corroborate it because she has no recollection of the incident in question."

https://www.cnn.com/2018/09/29/politics/...index.html

But, and correct me if I'm wrong, but my recall is that Keyser was identified by Ford as someone who could corroborate the story and then did not. That may not quite be denial, but it's pretty damn close, particularly considering that others whom Ford identified as being able to corroborate also declined to do so.

I've been to numerous parties in houses with lots or people with close friends over 20 years ago. I cannot remember any details of any of them other than the apartment complexes where they took place, but not the specific apartment number or building. I likely would not remember anyone being pushed into a bedroom as I likely would not have even saw it.

That being said, if a close friend told me this happened to her, I'd likely believe her even though I could not take a witness stand today and confirm that I know something.

That's most likely what happened here.

But if one of your friends at that party told you that she had been sexually assaulted, you would remember that. Something like that just doesn't disappear from the mind unless you are in Joe Biden's shoes.

More lame excuses from Tom.

(05-05-2020 10:09 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(05-05-2020 09:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-05-2020 07:54 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(05-05-2020 06:20 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-04-2020 02:31 PM)miko33 Wrote:  The topic is Joe Biden. Why are you trying to change the subject?

YOU posted the hashtag, you opened that subject. Sorry not sorry.

Nope. The topic in this thread is Joe Biden. You are using another dose of whataboutism to deflect from the Joe Biden discussion.

Maybe I missed your promoting of that hashtag on the thread I started on trump's accusers. Perhaps you can link it for me?

Besides, I believe in due process when it pertains to the alleged accusers against Trump. I believe that people should be judged according to the standards that they are keeping. Biden bought into the identity politics, SJW antics, ANTIFA, BLM, etc. etc. It's only fair that Biden is judged by the standards he proposes for others. However...the MSM WON'T hold Biden to account.

But no due process for Joe?

Lame excuse.

(05-05-2020 11:42 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-05-2020 10:09 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(05-05-2020 09:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-05-2020 07:54 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(05-05-2020 06:20 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  YOU posted the hashtag, you opened that subject. Sorry not sorry.

Nope. The topic in this thread is Joe Biden. You are using another dose of whataboutism to deflect from the Joe Biden discussion.

Maybe I missed your promoting of that hashtag on the thread I started on trump's accusers. Perhaps you can link it for me?

Besides, I believe in due process when it pertains to the alleged accusers against Trump. I believe that people should be judged according to the standards that they are keeping. Biden bought into the identity politics, SJW antics, ANTIFA, BLM, etc. etc. It's only fair that Biden is judged by the standards he proposes for others. However...the MSM WON'T hold Biden to account.

But no due process for Joe?

Lame excuse.

Where has he been denied any due process?

Anyone who makes an accusation deserves to have it heard, regardless of which side they are on. It's pathetic that you are incapable of even admitting the obvious double standard the media has applied to Biden vs. Kavanaugh.

(05-05-2020 11:42 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-05-2020 10:09 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(05-05-2020 09:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-05-2020 07:54 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(05-05-2020 06:20 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  YOU posted the hashtag, you opened that subject. Sorry not sorry.

Nope. The topic in this thread is Joe Biden. You are using another dose of whataboutism to deflect from the Joe Biden discussion.

Maybe I missed your promoting of that hashtag on the thread I started on trump's accusers. Perhaps you can link it for me?

Besides, I believe in due process when it pertains to the alleged accusers against Trump. I believe that people should be judged according to the standards that they are keeping. Biden bought into the identity politics, SJW antics, ANTIFA, BLM, etc. etc. It's only fair that Biden is judged by the standards he proposes for others. However...the MSM WON'T hold Biden to account.

But no due process for Joe?

Lame excuse.

Due process exists only if Joe is being tried in criminal court. Otherwise, in the world of politics and optics - Joe deserves to be judged in the "court of opinion" by the standards he professes by embracing identity politics and SJW ideals.

Fvck his "due process" until he's literally being tried in criminal court. Your hypocrisy is lame.

(05-05-2020 11:42 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-05-2020 10:09 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(05-05-2020 09:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-05-2020 07:54 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(05-05-2020 06:20 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  YOU posted the hashtag, you opened that subject. Sorry not sorry.

Nope. The topic in this thread is Joe Biden. You are using another dose of whataboutism to deflect from the Joe Biden discussion.

Maybe I missed your promoting of that hashtag on the thread I started on trump's accusers. Perhaps you can link it for me?

Besides, I believe in due process when it pertains to the alleged accusers against Trump. I believe that people should be judged according to the standards that they are keeping. Biden bought into the identity politics, SJW antics, ANTIFA, BLM, etc. etc. It's only fair that Biden is judged by the standards he proposes for others. However...the MSM WON'T hold Biden to account.

But no due process for Joe?

Lame excuse.

So you want to sit here and honestly say you do not believe Groper Joe put his hands on this woman in a way she did not want him to?

Yes or no question.

(05-05-2020 11:42 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-05-2020 10:09 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(05-05-2020 09:25 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(05-05-2020 07:54 AM)miko33 Wrote:  

(05-05-2020 06:20 AM)Redwingtom Wrote:  YOU posted the hashtag, you opened that subject. Sorry not sorry.

Nope. The topic in this thread is Joe Biden. You are using another dose of whataboutism to deflect from the Joe Biden discussion.

Maybe I missed your promoting of that hashtag on the thread I started on trump's accusers. Perhaps you can link it for me?

Besides, I believe in due process when it pertains to the alleged accusers against Trump. I believe that people should be judged according to the standards that they are keeping. Biden bought into the identity politics, SJW antics, ANTIFA, BLM, etc. etc. It's only fair that Biden is judged by the standards he proposes for others. However...the MSM WON'T hold Biden to account.

But no due process for Joe?
Lame excuse.

I haven't seen anyone seeking to deny due process for Joe--except maybe the left, who want it to go away without any investigation.