NYD bowls shifted to Memorial Day. Everything else falls in line.

Saturday 1/23 -- Week 0
Saturday 1/30 -- Week 1
Saturday 2/6 -- Week 2
Saturday 2/13 -- Week 3
Saturday 2/20 -- Week 4
Saturday 2/27 -- Week 5
Saturday 3/6 -- Week 6
Saturday 3/13 -- Week 7
Saturday 3/20 -- Week 8
Saturday 3/27 -- Week 9
Saturday 4/3 -- Week 10
Saturday 4/10 -- Week 11
Saturday 4/17 -- Week 12
Saturday 4/24 -- Week 13
Saturday 5/1 -- Conference Championships
Saturday 5/8 -- Army/Navy

Saturday 5/15 -- bowls
Saturday 5/22 -- bowls
Saturday 5/29 -- NYE bowls
Sunday 5/30 -- Cotton/Fiesta/Orange bowls
Monday 5/31 -- NYD bowls
Monday 6/7 -- National Championship

From Chicago and you really think winter football works in the north?

That might fly south of the Mason-Dixon but won’t work in the Midwest, Northeast, or Rocky Mountains.

Unfortunately, the other issue is that we may see Wave #2 of the pandemic during that period next year. Pushing anything to colder months may end up defeating the purpose of reducing risk if transmission is more likely in lower temperatures.

My feeling is that it's either safe enough to play a full season as-is or we don't play the season at all. If warmer weather is a mitigating factor for transmission (and to VERY be clear, that's a very open question that none of us knows the answer to and Australia is providing some evidence that it unfortunately might not matter), then delaying the start of the season actually makes even less sense as, under that working theory, you'd rather be playing as many games as possible in hot weather in August and early September than when the weather starts turning colder in the fall. That's why we saw some reports of college football considering moving its season *earlier* to the summer months. Of course, it's difficult to see how we could be playing college football during this summer when the case numbers are still so high.

I hope that I'm wrong, but pretty much every single piece of news that has come out during this crisis has ended up being worse than we thought.

(04-06-2020 09:31 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  NYD bowls shifted to Memorial Day. Everything else falls in line.

Saturday 1/23 -- Week 0
Saturday 1/30 -- Week 1

I appreciate the initiative, but spring is for basketball and baseball and whatever. It's just not football season.

And if they did play that Spring season, when would they play the 2021 season? You can't have a football season end in June and then another one start three months later in September, so in effect you'd be permanently moving football to the spring, which IMO is a non-starter.

If they can't play this fall, then they can't play, just wait until Fall 2021. It's over.

(04-06-2020 09:38 AM)bullet Wrote:  From Chicago and you really think winter football works in the north?

It’s kinda like the other thread talking about games in July and August - that would be incredibly harsh in the south.

(04-06-2020 09:31 AM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  NYD bowls shifted to Memorial Day. Everything else falls in line.

Saturday 1/23 -- Week 0
Saturday 1/30 -- Week 1
Saturday 2/6 -- Week 2
Saturday 2/13 -- Week 3
Saturday 2/20 -- Week 4
Saturday 2/27 -- Week 5
Saturday 3/6 -- Week 6
Saturday 3/13 -- Week 7
Saturday 3/20 -- Week 8
Saturday 3/27 -- Week 9
Saturday 4/3 -- Week 10
Saturday 4/10 -- Week 11
Saturday 4/17 -- Week 12
Saturday 4/24 -- Week 13
Saturday 5/1 -- Conference Championships
Saturday 5/8 -- Army/Navy

Saturday 5/15 -- bowls
Saturday 5/22 -- bowls
Saturday 5/29 -- NYE bowls
Sunday 5/30 -- Cotton/Fiesta/Orange bowls
Monday 5/31 -- NYD bowls
Monday 6/7 -- National Championship

Problem I see is that the virus is likely to have a 2nd wave next Winter (Jan-April being especially bad) based on both computer models of COVID-19 and past history of the Spanish Flu of 1918-19.

Just about any model where we can have college football will likely require that a vaccine be ready and available in sufficient numbers that everybody can get it. That could be possible by next spring, but it's no sure thing. Without a vaccine, there is no realistic way we can play either football or basketball next season, and most other sports as well.

(04-06-2020 12:33 PM)ken d Wrote:  Just about any model where we can have college football will likely require that a vaccine be ready and available in sufficient numbers that everybody can get it. That could be possible by next spring, but it's no sure thing. Without a vaccine, there is no realistic way we can play either football or basketball next season, and most other sports as well.

I agree. That's why I think fall college football is a non-starter. There won't be a vaccine by August. However there could be one by December. If that passes, spring football would be the only option outside of cancellation.

(04-06-2020 09:38 AM)bullet Wrote:  From Chicago and you really think winter football works in the north?

Reminds me of the old USFL and the Chicago Blitz playing an early season home game in a blizzard.

Looks good on TV. For the people actually at the game (participants, fans, anyone), it's brutal.

(04-06-2020 12:56 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(04-06-2020 12:33 PM)ken d Wrote:  Just about any model where we can have college football will likely require that a vaccine be ready and available in sufficient numbers that everybody can get it. That could be possible by next spring, but it's no sure thing. Without a vaccine, there is no realistic way we can play either football or basketball next season, and most other sports as well.

I agree. That's why I think fall college football is a non-starter. There won't be a vaccine by August. However there could be one by December. If that passes, spring football would be the only option outside of cancellation.

But now you're looking at an offseason of two months or so if you do spring 2021 football and then follow it up with a regular fall 2021 season. Playing at least 24 games within one year (and possibly as many as 30 if you're in both national championships) seems like a really bad thing for the players' health. The recruiting season is shot, as is the NFL draft.

More and more I'm coming along to Frank's line of thinking: If you can't play a traditional season with minimal disruptions (like pushing the schedule forward a few weeks or lopping off one or two games), then best to take a knee on the whole thing and aim for fall 2021 when, God willing, we'll have a much better handle on this.

Who came up with the dates? This is the only thing I don’t like about the idea. Couldn’t the season start 1st weekend of November to make everything work? Also would this shorten the amount of Bowls as well???

(04-06-2020 12:56 PM)IWokeUpLikeThis Wrote:  

(04-06-2020 12:33 PM)ken d Wrote:  Just about any model where we can have college football will likely require that a vaccine be ready and available in sufficient numbers that everybody can get it. That could be possible by next spring, but it's no sure thing. Without a vaccine, there is no realistic way we can play either football or basketball next season, and most other sports as well.

I agree. That's why I think fall college football is a non-starter. There won't be a vaccine by August. However there could be one by December. If that passes, spring football would be the only option outside of cancellation.

In that eventuality, you could have two abbreviated seasons.

Conference games only in basketball ending in early March, with four team conference championship tournaments over two days and an abbreviated (champions only) NCAA tournament of 32 teams over two weeks. Final Four could overlap with start of football season. Cancel the NIT for a year.

Full regular 2020 season in football, ending in Mid-May, with no bowls or CFP. Conduct the NFL draft in May, with no combine or pro days. Baseball tournament follows football season. Start 2021 football season a week later than usual.

(04-06-2020 09:38 AM)bullet Wrote:  From Chicago and you really think winter football works in the north?

The Chicago Bears, Green Bay Packers, Pittsburgh Steelers, New England Patriots, Buffalo Bills, et al say hello.........

(04-06-2020 02:17 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(04-06-2020 09:38 AM)bullet Wrote:  From Chicago and you really think winter football works in the north?

The Chicago Bears, Green Bay Packers, Pittsburgh Steelers, New England Patriots, Buffalo Bills, et al say hello.........

I was thinking the same thing? I've seen many of those teams play home games into January for playoffs. If folks in the south think us northerners will not show up due to snow, they are wrong!

We are good up here. You all keep that tropical weather year round. I like my 4 seasons.

(04-06-2020 03:57 PM)cubucks Wrote:  

(04-06-2020 02:17 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(04-06-2020 09:38 AM)bullet Wrote:  From Chicago and you really think winter football works in the north?

The Chicago Bears, Green Bay Packers, Pittsburgh Steelers, New England Patriots, Buffalo Bills, et al say hello.........

I was thinking the same thing? I've seen many of those teams play home games into January for playoffs. If folks in the south think us northerners will not show up due to snow, they are wrong!

We are good up here. You all keep that tropical weather year round. I like my 4 seasons.

I grew up near Pittsburgh and have always considered 23 degrees and heavy snow as "football weather".

(04-06-2020 04:23 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(04-06-2020 03:57 PM)cubucks Wrote:  

(04-06-2020 02:17 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(04-06-2020 09:38 AM)bullet Wrote:  From Chicago and you really think winter football works in the north?

The Chicago Bears, Green Bay Packers, Pittsburgh Steelers, New England Patriots, Buffalo Bills, et al say hello.........

I was thinking the same thing? I've seen many of those teams play home games into January for playoffs. If folks in the south think us northerners will not show up due to snow, they are wrong!

We are good up here. You all keep that tropical weather year round. I like my 4 seasons.

I grew up near Pittsburgh and have always considered 23 degrees and heavy snow as "football weather".

Yes sir! That's perfect conditions for a game.

(04-06-2020 02:17 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(04-06-2020 09:38 AM)bullet Wrote:  From Chicago and you really think winter football works in the north?

The Chicago Bears, Green Bay Packers, Pittsburgh Steelers, New England Patriots, Buffalo Bills, et al say hello.........

None of them play at home in January and February. Its still fall when they play in blizzards. Even the ice bowl was in December.

(04-06-2020 05:02 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(04-06-2020 02:17 PM)TerryD Wrote:  

(04-06-2020 09:38 AM)bullet Wrote:  From Chicago and you really think winter football works in the north?

The Chicago Bears, Green Bay Packers, Pittsburgh Steelers, New England Patriots, Buffalo Bills, et al say hello.........

None of them play at home in January and February. Its still fall when they play in blizzards. Even the ice bowl was in December.

They do in November and December. Playoff teams play in January.

(04-06-2020 09:38 AM)bullet Wrote:  From Chicago and you really think winter football works in the north?

Since I don't anticipate a lot of fans going to these games, the Big Ten and Big 12 teams could just play their Jan and Feb games at the nearest indoor stadium. Some possible locations

US Bank stadium in Minneapolis
Minny, Wisc, Iowa, Neb, Iowa St

Lucas oil stadium in Indianapolis
Indy, Pur, NW, ILL, OSU, KY

Ford Field in Detroit
Mich, MSU

Dome stadium in St louis
Mizzou,

AT&T stadium in Dallas
Kan, KSU, Ok, OK St, Arky

Then there are smaller alternatives like the UNI-Dome where Northern Iowa plays. Iowa and Iowa state could possibly play their games there too.