Quote:Physician David Drew Pinsky, commonly referred to as Dr. Drew, slammed the media in a CBS News interview late last week, saying that it is responsible for causing the American public to panic, which is hurting businesses and people.
“A bad flu season is 80,000 dead, we’ve got about 18,000 dead from influenza this year, we have a hundred from corona,” Dr. Drew said. “Which should you be worried about, influenza or Corona? A hundred versus 18,000? It’s not a trick question. And look, everything that’s going on with the New York cleaning the subways and everyone using Clorox wipes and get your flu shot, which should be the other message, that’s good. That’s a good thing, so I have no problem with the behaviors.”
“What I have a problem with is the panic and the fact that businesses are getting destroyed, that people’s lives are being upended, not by the virus, but by the panic,” Dr. Drew continued. “The panic must stop. And the press, they really somehow need to be held accountable because they are hurting people.”
2002- West Nile
2004- SARS
2006- Bird Flu
2009- H1N1
2014- Embola
2016- Zika Virus
2020- Coronavirus
Same s hit, different year.....
If the Left controlled the White House this “scare” would have been treated just like the 6 that came before by the media and their minions.
In two months or less, doubt coronavirus will still be a story. The Left will move on to something else as will the media.
(This post was last modified: 03-09-2020 01:27 PM by CardinalJim.)
(03-09-2020 11:47 AM)gdunn Wrote: Numbers are a little inflated..
There's under 200 confirmed cases and 11 deaths..
Fox is reporting 22 deaths, with 19 in that Seattle nursing home. They just had a reporter standing outside the facility reporting 2 minutes ago.
Having said that, the panic is hugely overblown.
With 150 million deaths by guns and the 22 from Corona it's a wonder we even have people in the US.
Sure, it's kinda scary, not for me but for my grandkids. That's who I worry about a little more but I'm sure they're not locking themselves up because of Corona. Life goes on and we have to enjoy life while we can and not live in fear. I think the media including Fox should lighten up and not create so much fear. In Australia two people were fighting over TOILET PAPER. C'mon, don't be stupid.
So I actually had a sit down conversation today with a neuroimmunologist and we discussed this. Her fear is less so about the dangers of the virus (because it manifests much the same as the common flu) and more about:
1. Longer incubation time
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2. More people getting sick without realizing it
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3. Spreading it faster
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4. More people getting the flu-like symptoms and going to hospitals
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5. Hospitals being inundated and workforce being overwhelmed
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6. People with more life threatening care issues getting subpar care due to overwhelmed staff (you're seeing this in China already)
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7. Many more non-corona related deaths
So no... it's not something overwhelming right now... but it could manifest in that direction if we aren't vigilant. Am I personally afraid of it as a young, healthy, 31 year old? No. But I did tell my parents in their 60's to be careful.
(03-09-2020 01:26 PM)CardinalJim Wrote: 2002- West Nile
2004- SARS
2006- Bird Flu
2009- H1N1
2014- Embola
2016- Zika Virus
2020- Coronavirus
Same s hit, different year.....
If the Left controlled the White House this “scare” would have been treated just like the 6 that came before by the media and their minions.
In two months or less, doubt coronavirus will still be a story. The Left will move on to something else as will the media.
You forgot or left off the plague of the H1B1 over the last 30+ years. Upended, ruined a LOT more lives over that time than all of these others combined.
Just sayin'. The only thing we have to fear is fear itself...
(This post was last modified: 03-09-2020 02:17 PM by JMUDunk.)
(03-09-2020 02:08 PM)JDTulane Wrote: So I actually had a sit down conversation today with a neuroimmunologist and we discussed this. Her fear is less so about the dangers of the virus (because it manifests much the same as the common flu) and more about:
1. Longer incubation time
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2. More people getting sick without realizing it
-->
3. Spreading it faster
-->
4. More people getting the flu-like symptoms and going to hospitals
-->
5. Hospitals being inundated and workforce being overwhelmed
-->
6. People with more life threatening care issues getting subpar care due to overwhelmed staff (you're seeing this in China already)
-->
7. Many more non-corona related deaths
So no... it's not something overwhelming right now... but it could manifest in that direction if we aren't vigilant. Am I personally afraid of it as a young, healthy, 31 year old? No. But I did tell my parents in their 60's to be careful.
Right, but 'creating a panic' isn't helpful to any of that.
Here locally, there are ads saying... if you think you have it, DO NOT go to the ER. CALL your physician
(03-09-2020 02:08 PM)JDTulane Wrote: So I actually had a sit down conversation today with a neuroimmunologist and we discussed this. Her fear is less so about the dangers of the virus (because it manifests much the same as the common flu) and more about:
1. Longer incubation time
-->
2. More people getting sick without realizing it
-->
3. Spreading it faster
-->
4. More people getting the flu-like symptoms and going to hospitals
-->
5. Hospitals being inundated and workforce being overwhelmed
-->
6. People with more life threatening care issues getting subpar care due to overwhelmed staff (you're seeing this in China already)
-->
7. Many more non-corona related deaths
So no... it's not something overwhelming right now... but it could manifest in that direction if we aren't vigilant. Am I personally afraid of it as a young, healthy, 31 year old? No. But I did tell my parents in their 60's to be careful.
Right, but 'creating a panic' isn't helpful to any of that.
Here locally, there are ads saying... if you think you have it, DO NOT go to the ER. CALL your physician
It's also dangerous to downplay it and pretend like it's next to nothing. Maybe Trump AND MSM should chill out from sensationalizing (or in DJT's case... trivializing).
(03-09-2020 02:08 PM)JDTulane Wrote: So I actually had a sit down conversation today with a neuroimmunologist and we discussed this. Her fear is less so about the dangers of the virus (because it manifests much the same as the common flu) and more about:
1. Longer incubation time
-->
2. More people getting sick without realizing it
-->
3. Spreading it faster
-->
4. More people getting the flu-like symptoms and going to hospitals
-->
5. Hospitals being inundated and workforce being overwhelmed
-->
6. People with more life threatening care issues getting subpar care due to overwhelmed staff (you're seeing this in China already)
-->
7. Many more non-corona related deaths
So no... it's not something overwhelming right now... but it could manifest in that direction if we aren't vigilant. Am I personally afraid of it as a young, healthy, 31 year old? No. But I did tell my parents in their 60's to be careful.
Right, but 'creating a panic' isn't helpful to any of that.
Here locally, there are ads saying... if you think you have it, DO NOT go to the ER. CALL your physician
(03-09-2020 02:08 PM)JDTulane Wrote: So I actually had a sit down conversation today with a neuroimmunologist and we discussed this. Her fear is less so about the dangers of the virus (because it manifests much the same as the common flu) and more about:
1. Longer incubation time
-->
2. More people getting sick without realizing it
-->
3. Spreading it faster
-->
4. More people getting the flu-like symptoms and going to hospitals
-->
5. Hospitals being inundated and workforce being overwhelmed
-->
6. People with more life threatening care issues getting subpar care due to overwhelmed staff (you're seeing this in China already)
-->
7. Many more non-corona related deaths
So no... it's not something overwhelming right now... but it could manifest in that direction if we aren't vigilant. Am I personally afraid of it as a young, healthy, 31 year old? No. But I did tell my parents in their 60's to be careful.
Right, but 'creating a panic' isn't helpful to any of that.
Here locally, there are ads saying... if you think you have it, DO NOT go to the ER. CALL your physician
(03-09-2020 02:25 PM)JDTulane Wrote: It's also dangerous to downplay it and pretend like it's next to nothing. Maybe Trump AND MSM should chill out from sensationalizing (or in DJT's case... trivializing).
Which sort of lays bare your ACTUAL reason for saying what you did.
Clearly you heard what the neuroimmunologist said, but you didn't understand it.
You just said that the average person has little to be concerned about... and the risk is for the same people who are at risk from the 'common' flu.... which despite all of our years of knowledge about it... kills 50,000+ people per year in the US alone.... mostly people like our parents.
It's pretty hard to not come across as 'dismissive' when 'the other side' is out there literally telling HEALTHY people not to attend classes, fly or go to the grocery store. People in Australia literally stocking up on toilet paper. People buying cases of masks (that won't help them).
(03-09-2020 02:33 PM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:
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Right, but 'creating a panic' isn't helpful to any of that.
Here locally, there are ads saying... if you think you have it, DO NOT go to the ER. CALL your physician
And if you are a person without a physician?
Almost every hospital system and insurance company in the country now has a 'nurse on call' sort of service.
(This post was last modified: 03-09-2020 03:08 PM by Hambone10.)
Whether you realize it or not... beginning a post with:
Quote:Clearly you heard what the neuroimmunologist said, but you didn't understand it.
is condescending as ****.
I understood her quite well. Humans are stupid. People who would survive the virus just fine will rush the hospitals, inundate them, and other patients that would normally be fine will suffer the consequence. That's a reality.
An awareness campaign is necessary because the incubation is 14-21 days of asymptomatic carrying. If we pretend like its nothing and let people go about their lives going to Mardi gras, SxSW etc., the spread will be much more impactful, much quicker. I use those examples because now Austin and New Orleans both have cases. SXSW is this week. Mardi Gras 2 weeks ago.
Pretending like it was nothing ****'d over China.
(This post was last modified: 03-09-2020 03:24 PM by JDTulane.)
(03-09-2020 01:58 PM)Kronke Wrote: A lot of coping and optimism bias in this thread.
What? I could just as easily say I see someone hoping to live in the time of the big one just as easy.
We are at 113,000 cases world-wide. Over 62,000 of those are closed. That means out of the roughly 7,000,000,000 on the planet just over 40,000 have the virus and that number is not increasing anywhere near exponentially. It's barely increasing methodically, and that's generous.
That's one infected person for every 4,875 square miles of earth. Plenty of room to hide if you're worried.
