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RE: Another tolerant Dem wishing death to Republicans
(03-08-2020 02:27 PM)TripleA Wrote: (03-08-2020 05:13 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: (03-08-2020 03:55 AM)TripleA Wrote: I don't disagree with that. I just know there are tens of thousands of bureaucrats embedded in the Fed gov (I'm well aware since I did consulting work for them for decades), and it is 95% Dems.
You ain't gonna reform that place in any fashion unless you burn it down and start over, b/c all they do is hunker down and wait you out, and subvert where they can. And when their party gets the presidency, they plant poison bombs everywhere.
So, you can fire a few for cause, after a long battle, and maybe put one in jail now and then, but I don't see how you win the battle.
Here's one quick example. I headed a project for SecNav John Lehman, and during a meeting, got him to agree to change the way projected manhours were calculated to forecast manpower for Navy shipyard overhauls of carriers, destroyers, etc.
He gave the order to his CNO Admiral, and told him to change it that day. It was a move that would literally save billions of dollars a year, not hurt their ability to overhaul ships, and allow them to compete with private shipyards for additional business.
All it did was stop personnel from hiring extra workers they didn't need, who simply bloated the payroll. That formula was never changed, even though Lehman's Chief of Naval Ops Admiral went after it personally.
Just too many embedded bureaucrats in the way, and you can't fire them. All you can do is slow down their promotions, or transfer them elsewhere.
In this case, four of the 8 public shipyards eventually had to be closed down, due to excessive labor costs. The private shipyards took their business. The remaining 4 only stayed open as a national security measure, b/c in case of war, you can't shut down all your ship repair capacity and rely solely on private companies.
And to this day, that formula hasn't been changed, and the workforce continues to grow unnecessarily.
I can tell you 50 stories like that.
Your experiences parallel mine, almost exactly. From DOD, to various federal agencies where I worked as a consultant, to various other federal agencies before which I represented clients, it's the same everywhere.
The average person has no idea how much power is wielded by nameless, faceless, and unaccountable bureaucrats. Those people think they are invincible and can do whatever they want, regardless of consequences. And their goals are first to persevere and increase the power, headcount, and budget of their agency, second to advance their own personal careers, and third to do whatever it is that the agency is supposed to do.
I think you have to make major overhauls in the way the "fourth branch," the entrenched bureaucracy, operates. And I don't see how you get that through congress.
Exactly. That is my frustration with the system. It has just grown so huge, it's like Frankenstein, and those in charge don't want it to change. That's the swamp, lol.
Another thought I forgot to add earlier, when bantering with JR. I heard a talking head fed lawyer say yesterday that even when you catch someone breaking the law (like Comey and McCabe), it is almost impossible to win convictions, b/c the cases have to go to DC court, and those juries are always stacked with Dems.
He said that's the likely reason the DOJ chose not to prosecute those two so far, not b/c they thought the cases were weak, but b/c of the jury they would draw.
Dems hate Comey too. Sometimes you need to be willing to take a risk that you lose. Still serves part of the deterrent purpose.
(This post was last modified: 03-08-2020 08:36 PM by bullet.)
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