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RE: Eliminating the Big 12 as a P5 Conference
(03-01-2020 03:07 PM)JRsec Wrote: If we have further consolidation into 4 or fewer conferences the 2 division requirement will go away by virtue of the desires of those expanding. To date nothing has been denied to the SEC and Big 10 when together they have wanted it. I don't see that changing now.
And here's the thing. Whether the Big 10 or SEC expands out of the Big 12 and either takes all of the main prizes, what that means is limited slots for expansion to the East. If the SEC for instance did take Texas, Oklahoma and Kansas and another from the Big 12, there is no reason to assume that for 30 million more a year early movement from the ACC couldn't be accomplished by the Big 10 offering Virginia, North Carolina, Duke, and Notre Dame.
Were that to happen there would literally be nobody left that they could possibly profit by taking.
What would then result is a new conference arising out of the remnant. The pursuit of schools from the PAC would not be profitable for the Big 10 in terms of membership, but a scheduling alliance would further enhance their value.
The markets of North Carolina and Virginia would be relatively close to approximating the value of Texas, Notre Dame slightly better than the value of Oklahoma, and I would think that brand wise for hoops Kansas and Duke would be a wash. Whoever the SEC picked up as the 4th whether it was Iowa State which would give them 3 AAU adds as well, or Tech which has Tier 2 value, wouldn't add enough value to create instability.
If Clemson, Virginia Tech, Louisville, Florida State, N.C. State, Syracuse, Pittsburgh, Miami, were added to Baylor, T.C.U., Oklahoma State, Kansas State, West Virginia, and one of ISU or TTU they could also add Brigham Young and Cincinnati/Houston and have not only a nice footprint, but a very competitive conference as well.
And it seems to me this would be the much more natural direction for both the SEC and Big 10 anyway. And like the Big 10 having a scheduling alliance with the PAC the SEC could have a scheduling alliance with this new conference creation and the TV value would be enough to profit both.
SEC:
Arkansas, Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas, Texas Tech
Alabama, Auburn, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Texas A&M
Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Big 10:
Duke, Maryland, North Carolina, Notre Dame, Penn State, Virginia
Indiana, Michigan, Michigan State, Ohio State, Purdue, Rutgers
Illinois, Iowa, Minnesota, Nebraska, Northwestern, Wisconsin
New B12/ACC:
Cincinnati, Iowa State, Louisville, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, West Virginia
Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech, Miami, N.C. State, Virginia Tech
Baylor, Brigham Young, Houston, Kansas State, Oklahoma State, T.C.U.
I won't comment on the other two groupings but if I were to reconstruct the Big Ten line up it would go like this:
Duke, Maryland, North Carolina, Notre Dame, Virginia, Rutgers
Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan, Michigan State, Wisconsin, Minnesota
Illinois, Purdue, Indiana, Northwestern, Iowa, Nebraska
Yes, the middle division is stacked but the programs share a similar profile. The Little Brown Jug gets played every year. Last year's Minnesota-Penn State game was great and they've had good games between them before. It's also a way to connect the eastern, central and western areas of the conference. Whoever comes out of this on top would stand a good chance of winning the conference championship.
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