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Chemistry
Is it just me or does there seem to be a lack of chemistry on the floor, at least on the offensive end? I know they are just "freshmen" but they've played most of the season and including practices it just seems that they still don't know where each other is on the court or where the other is going.
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02-26-2020 03:57 PM |
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SeñorTiger
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RE: Chemistry
The reality is that this is a coaching problem. Unfortunately, I have to agree that we look just as lost on offense at the end of February that did at the beginning of November...
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02-26-2020 04:08 PM |
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RE: Chemistry
It's hard to gain chemistry when other than 2 guys players are being rotated in and out. Guys, outside of Precious and Lester, don't know how many minutes they are going to play from game to game.
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RE: Chemistry
But if Wiseman were playing, we'd have amazing chemistry and our guards would be amazing passers and slashers
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02-26-2020 04:52 PM |
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tigers0830
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RE: Chemistry
We are 332 in minutes continuity. That right there is why there is zero chemistry on the offensive end.
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RE: Chemistry
(02-26-2020 05:00 PM)tigers0830 Wrote: We are 332 in minutes continuity. That right there is why there is zero chemistry on the offensive end.
You should go look up what minutes continuity is actually measuring... I don’t think it’s what you think it is.
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RE: Chemistry
(02-26-2020 05:54 PM)Fluke Wrote: (02-26-2020 05:00 PM)tigers0830 Wrote: We are 332 in minutes continuity. That right there is why there is zero chemistry on the offensive end.
You should go look up what minutes continuity is actually measuring... I don’t think it’s what you think it is.
Oh I know what it means and it doesn't make my statement any less true
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02-26-2020 06:00 PM |
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RE: Chemistry
(02-26-2020 06:00 PM)tigers0830 Wrote: (02-26-2020 05:54 PM)Fluke Wrote: (02-26-2020 05:00 PM)tigers0830 Wrote: We are 332 in minutes continuity. That right there is why there is zero chemistry on the offensive end.
You should go look up what minutes continuity is actually measuring... I don’t think it’s what you think it is.
Oh I know what it means and it doesn't make my statement any less true
Well you were just talking about rotations and then cited that stat. Yes it is actually true because we are the youngest team in d1. So for you to use “continuity” when it refers to minutes played by guys from last season to this season of course it’s going to be low. Hardly any of these guys were on the team lol. But you were obviously referring to rotations game to game.
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02-26-2020 06:06 PM |
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RE: Chemistry
(02-26-2020 06:06 PM)Fluke Wrote: (02-26-2020 06:00 PM)tigers0830 Wrote: (02-26-2020 05:54 PM)Fluke Wrote: (02-26-2020 05:00 PM)tigers0830 Wrote: We are 332 in minutes continuity. That right there is why there is zero chemistry on the offensive end.
You should go look up what minutes continuity is actually measuring... I don’t think it’s what you think it is.
Oh I know what it means and it doesn't make my statement any less true
Well you were just talking about rotations and then cited that stat. Yes it is actually true because we are the youngest team in d1. So for you to use “continuity” when it refers to minutes played by guys from last season to this season of course it’s going to be low. Hardly any of these guys were on the team lol. But you were obviously referring to rotations game to game.
If you factor both of these together we probably rank even worse
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02-26-2020 06:19 PM |
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RE: Chemistry
(02-26-2020 06:06 PM)Fluke Wrote: (02-26-2020 06:00 PM)tigers0830 Wrote: (02-26-2020 05:54 PM)Fluke Wrote: (02-26-2020 05:00 PM)tigers0830 Wrote: We are 332 in minutes continuity. That right there is why there is zero chemistry on the offensive end.
You should go look up what minutes continuity is actually measuring... I don’t think it’s what you think it is.
Oh I know what it means and it doesn't make my statement any less true
Well you were just talking about rotations and then cited that stat. Yes it is actually true because we are the youngest team in d1. So for you to use “continuity” when it refers to minutes played by guys from last season to this season of course it’s going to be low. Hardly any of these guys were on the team lol. But you were obviously referring to rotations game to game.
ouch
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02-26-2020 06:46 PM |
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RE: Chemistry
(02-26-2020 04:08 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote: The reality of my opinion is that this is a coaching problem. Unfortunately, I have to agree that we look just as lost on offense at the end of February that did at the beginning of November...
FYP
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02-26-2020 06:47 PM |
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SeñorTiger
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RE: Chemistry
(02-26-2020 06:47 PM)Tiger87 Wrote: (02-26-2020 04:08 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote: The reality of my opinion is that this is a coaching problem. Unfortunately, I have to agree that we look just as lost on offense at the end of February that did at the beginning of November...
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So, in your opinion it is not the coach’s job to create chemistry among his roster and staff? Okay... I didn’t realize that was a controversial part of the job requirements.
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02-26-2020 06:58 PM |
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RE: Chemistry
(02-26-2020 06:58 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote: (02-26-2020 06:47 PM)Tiger87 Wrote: (02-26-2020 04:08 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote: The reality of my opinion is that this is a coaching problem. Unfortunately, I have to agree that we look just as lost on offense at the end of February that did at the beginning of November...
FYP
So, in your opinion it is not the coach’s job to create chemistry among his roster and staff? Okay... I didn’t realize that was a controversial part of the job requirements.
This is all about your opinion, not mine. I have not weighed on in whether I think there is a chemistry problem.
For it to be "reality" (as you said) that the bad chemistry is a coaching problem, would be saying that it is a fact that there is indeed a chemistry problem.
[For the record, I've seen teams with chemistry problems - 2005, 2014-2017, etc. There might be on this team, but I haven't seen any signs there is a chemistry problem. It would be hard to play D as well as they do if there were serious chemistry issues.]
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02-27-2020 09:54 AM |
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RE: Chemistry
Funny. I just opened up ESPN+ and found this interesting column dropped today by Borzello.
Coaches break down Memphis' season
If you don't have ESPN+, here's a nugget:
One big thing has stood out to opposing coaches: There haven't been too many rumblings or rumors of locker room issues or any sign of chemistry problems on the court -- two things that generally happen on teams that don't live up to preseason expectations. "You haven't heard any issues," one coach said. "I was as skeptical as anyone. I felt a certain type of way. But when you take the emotion of it and just look at the job he's done, he's been pretty good, man."
"He's ridden with them. We've all seen ballyhooed freshmen dip and never return back," another coach echoed the sentiment of Hardaway. "He's got such a really endearing demeanor on the sideline. If you're a Memphis fan, he's got a young team that's a little erratic, that's got a lot of promise, but his team doesn't always play with awesome poise. But he's got a great demeanor. A calmness about him on the sideline with them. If you're a true Memphis fan, you can see tangible progress. Guys are improving in front of your eyes. Guys are really, really taking big steps forward in their games."
(This post was last modified: 02-27-2020 12:18 PM by Tiger87.)
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02-27-2020 10:05 AM |
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RE: Chemistry
In order for this team to be great, and have good chemistry, we needed our 2 sophomore guards to play like seniors. They've played more like freshman.
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02-27-2020 10:06 AM |
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SeñorTiger
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RE: Chemistry
(02-27-2020 09:54 AM)Tiger87 Wrote: (02-26-2020 06:58 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote: (02-26-2020 06:47 PM)Tiger87 Wrote: (02-26-2020 04:08 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote: The reality of my opinion is that this is a coaching problem. Unfortunately, I have to agree that we look just as lost on offense at the end of February that did at the beginning of November...
FYP
So, in your opinion it is not the coach’s job to create chemistry among his roster and staff? Okay... I didn’t realize that was a controversial part of the job requirements.
This is all about your opinion, not mine. I have not weighed on in whether I think there is a chemistry problem.
For it to be "reality" (as you said) that the bad chemistry is a coaching problem, would be saying that it is a fact that there is indeed a chemistry problem.
[For the record, I've seen teams with chemistry problems - 2005, 2014-2017, etc. There might be on this team, but I haven't seen any signs there is a chemistry problem. It would be hard to play D as well as they do if there were serious chemistry issues.]
I think you are interpreting "chemistry problems" as locker room issues, as in players not liking each other, infighting, etc.
That is not how I am using the phrase. I am using it more of the good chemistry creates synergy. I am not suggesting we have locker room problems at all. But rather on the court offensively, we have terrible chemistry. It is the coach's job to instill offenses, run sets and so on that build that chemistry and result in, everyone's favorite office buzzword, synergy.
I know Penny is capable of it because we have it on the defensive end. But we have not done that on the offensive end. That is a coaching problem offensively just like it is a coaching win on the defensive end.
I guess to be really clear on what I mean. I believe we have an offense that is designed at a text book level. Theoretically it should work out great. However, we do not have the players and skill level to actually run the offensive scheme. Penny has built an offense around a textbook idea instead of around the actual players we have. It is kind of like having a design for an airplane and then using sheet metal to complete the construction...
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02-27-2020 10:26 AM |
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RE: Chemistry
(02-27-2020 10:05 AM)Tiger87 Wrote: Funny. I just opened up ESPN+ and found this interesting column dropped today by Borzello.
Coaches break down Memphis' season
If you don't have ESPN+, here's a nugget:
One big thing has stood out to opposing coaches: There haven't been too many rumblings or rumors of locker room issues or any sign of chemistry problems on the court -- two things that generally happen on teams that don't live up to preseason expectations. "You haven't heard any issues," one coach said. "I was as skeptical as anyone. I felt a certain type of way. But when you take the emotion of it and just look at the job he's done, he's been pretty good, man."
"He's ridden with them. We've all seen ballyhooed freshmen dip and never return back," another coach echoed the sentiment of Hardaway. "He's got such a really endearing demeanor on the sideline. If you're a Memphis fan, he's got a young team that's a little erratic, that's got a lot of promise, but his team doesn't always play with awesome poise. But he's got a great demeanor. A calmness about him on the sideline with them. If you're a true Memphis fan, you can see tangible progress. Guys are improving in front of your eyes. Guys are really, really taking big steps forward in their games."
Really good article! Thanks for bringing attention to it.
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02-27-2020 10:28 AM |
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RE: Chemistry
(02-27-2020 09:54 AM)Tiger87 Wrote: (02-26-2020 06:58 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote: (02-26-2020 06:47 PM)Tiger87 Wrote: (02-26-2020 04:08 PM)SeñorTiger Wrote: The reality of my opinion is that this is a coaching problem. Unfortunately, I have to agree that we look just as lost on offense at the end of February that did at the beginning of November...
FYP
So, in your opinion it is not the coach’s job to create chemistry among his roster and staff? Okay... I didn’t realize that was a controversial part of the job requirements.
This is all about your opinion, not mine. I have not weighed on in whether I think there is a chemistry problem.
For it to be "reality" (as you said) that the bad chemistry is a coaching problem, would be saying that it is a fact that there is indeed a chemistry problem.
[For the record, I've seen teams with chemistry problems - 2005, 2014-2017, etc. There might be on this team, but I haven't seen any signs there is a chemistry problem. It would be hard to play D as well as they do if there were serious chemistry issues.]
Totally agree.
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02-27-2020 10:58 AM |
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RE: Chemistry
(02-27-2020 10:05 AM)Tiger87 Wrote: Funny. I just opened up ESPN+ and found this interesting column dropped today by Borzello.
Coaches break down Memphis' season
If you don't have ESPN+, here's a nugget:
One big thing has stood out to opposing coaches: There haven't been too many rumblings or rumors of locker room issues or any sign of chemistry problems on the court -- two things that generally happen on teams that don't live up to preseason expectations. "You haven't heard any issues," one coach said. "I was as skeptical as anyone. I felt a certain type of way. But when you take the emotion of it and just look at the job he's done, he's been pretty good, man."
"He's ridden with them. We've all seen ballyhooed freshmen dip and never return back," another coach echoed the sentiment of Hardaway. "He's got such a really endearing demeanor on the sideline. If you're a Memphis fan, he's got a young team that's a little erratic, that's got a lot of promise, but his team doesn't always play with awesome poise. But he's got a great demeanor. A calmness about him on the sideline with them. If you're a true Memphis fan, you can see tangible progress. Guys are improving in front of your eyes. Guys are really, really taking big steps forward in their games."
Great find!
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