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City, SDSU make headway on Mission Valley deal but timeline shifts
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From the Link provided by Joeben69...Last paragraph...

"Meanwhile, San Diego State is slated to appear in front of its board of trustees on Tuesday and Wednesday. The school is seeking an initial $350 million in funding for land and development costs, along with approval of its overall campus plan and the accompanying environmental analysis."
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I am happy to report that the Board Of Trustees OK'd this funding and approvals of accompanying environmental analysis in a meeting just a few hours ago....This news should be out real soon sometime today.
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Here we go...FULL SPEED AHEAD!!! Aztecs secure $350 Million for new Stadium. A new day in San Diego has arrived.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/bus...RepIcwTB-o
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(01-29-2020 05:09 PM)SteveAztec Wrote:  Here we go...FULL SPEED AHEAD!!! Aztecs secure $350 Million for new Stadium. A new day in San Diego has arrived.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/bus...RepIcwTB-o
Congrats! 04-cheers Having an OCS is a lot of fun.
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(01-29-2020 05:35 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  
(01-29-2020 05:09 PM)SteveAztec Wrote:  Here we go...FULL SPEED AHEAD!!! Aztecs secure $350 Million for new Stadium. A new day in San Diego has arrived.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/bus...RepIcwTB-o
Congrats! 04-cheers Having an OCS is a lot of fun.

This has been a long time coming BraveKnight. I am proud of San Diego State AND the City of San Diego for making it work.
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(01-29-2020 10:11 PM)SteveAztec Wrote:  
(01-29-2020 05:35 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  
(01-29-2020 05:09 PM)SteveAztec Wrote:  Here we go...FULL SPEED AHEAD!!! Aztecs secure $350 Million for new Stadium. A new day in San Diego has arrived.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/bus...RepIcwTB-o
Congrats! 04-cheers Having an OCS is a lot of fun.

This has been a long time coming BraveKnight. I am proud of San Diego State AND the City of San Diego for making it work.
You’ll enjoy having the OCS. Hopefully you guys can join the AAC so I can go visit it sometime.
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(01-29-2020 10:28 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  
(01-29-2020 10:11 PM)SteveAztec Wrote:  
(01-29-2020 05:35 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  
(01-29-2020 05:09 PM)SteveAztec Wrote:  Here we go...FULL SPEED AHEAD!!! Aztecs secure $350 Million for new Stadium. A new day in San Diego has arrived.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/bus...RepIcwTB-o
Congrats! 04-cheers Having an OCS is a lot of fun.

This has been a long time coming BraveKnight. I am proud of San Diego State AND the City of San Diego for making it work.
You’ll enjoy having the OCS. Hopefully you guys can join the AAC so I can go visit it sometime.

I would love to be part of the AAC. The Pac 12 is not calling us and never will. It is the Big 12 or the AAC for us. The AAC just makes sense to me.
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SDSU secures $350M for Mission Valley campus project
https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/bus...ey-project
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(01-29-2020 11:03 PM)SteveAztec Wrote:  
(01-29-2020 10:28 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  
(01-29-2020 10:11 PM)SteveAztec Wrote:  
(01-29-2020 05:35 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  
(01-29-2020 05:09 PM)SteveAztec Wrote:  Here we go...FULL SPEED AHEAD!!! Aztecs secure $350 Million for new Stadium. A new day in San Diego has arrived.

https://www.sandiegouniontribune.com/bus...RepIcwTB-o
Congrats! 04-cheers Having an OCS is a lot of fun.

This has been a long time coming BraveKnight. I am proud of San Diego State AND the City of San Diego for making it work.
You’ll enjoy having the OCS. Hopefully you guys can join the AAC so I can go visit it sometime.

I would love to be part of the AAC. The Pac 12 is not calling us and never will. It is the Big 12 or the AAC for us. The AAC just makes sense to me.
I agree, plus SDSU fits in nicely with the AAC profile, large metro school with a large enrollment and historically good basketball and football. You have good attendance and a big budget. I’d be ecstatic if we added y’all.
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Braveknight, with you being all in on the Aztecs coming, there has to be a 2nd team from the West. Who would be your choice?

Or would it make sense to have 4 from the West. Who would be those other 3?
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(02-04-2020 03:36 PM)SteveAztec Wrote:  Braveknight, with you being all in on the Aztecs coming, there has to be a 2nd team from the West. Who would be your choice?

Or would it make sense to have 4 from the West. Who would be those other 3?

If it were up to me, I would add BYU, Boise State, and SDSU. Big brands with history, good attendance, good budget, and national appeal. If BYU won’t come then add AFA or CSU.
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(02-04-2020 04:04 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  
(02-04-2020 03:36 PM)SteveAztec Wrote:  Braveknight, with you being all in on the Aztecs coming, there has to be a 2nd team from the West. Who would be your choice?

Or would it make sense to have 4 from the West. Who would be those other 3?

If it were up to me, I would add BYU, Boise State, and SDSU. Big brands with history, good attendance, good budget, and national appeal. If BYU won’t come then add AFA or CSU.

I like that too but going past 12 would be a hard sell, frankly I'd like to see 2 added from SDSU Boise and BYU and kick out Tulsa.

East
UCF
usf
Cincinnati
Temple
ECU
Tulane(moved from west)

West
Houston
Memphis
SMU
Navy
SDSU (new addition)
Boise (new addition)
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(02-06-2020 04:51 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  
(02-04-2020 04:04 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  
(02-04-2020 03:36 PM)SteveAztec Wrote:  Braveknight, with you being all in on the Aztecs coming, there has to be a 2nd team from the West. Who would be your choice?

Or would it make sense to have 4 from the West. Who would be those other 3?

If it were up to me, I would add BYU, Boise State, and SDSU. Big brands with history, good attendance, good budget, and national appeal. If BYU won’t come then add AFA or CSU.

I like that too but going past 12 would be a hard sell, frankly I'd like to see 2 added from SDSU Boise and BYU and kick out Tulsa.

East
UCF
usf
Cincinnati
Temple
ECU
Tulane(moved from west)

West
Houston
Memphis
SMU
Navy
SDSU (new addition)
Boise (new addition)
We could do that and then add CSU and AFA for a true P6 best of the rest conference. That conference would certainly be deserving of a contract NY6 bowl and a future playoff autobid.

East
UCF
USF
Cincy
Temple
Tulane
Memphis
Navy football

West
Houston
SMU
Colorado State
Air Force football
San Diego State
BYU
Boise
(Wichita State and Gonzaga Olympics)
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(02-04-2020 04:04 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  
(02-04-2020 03:36 PM)SteveAztec Wrote:  Braveknight, with you being all in on the Aztecs coming, there has to be a 2nd team from the West. Who would be your choice?

Or would it make sense to have 4 from the West. Who would be those other 3?

If it were up to me, I would add BYU, Boise State, and SDSU. Big brands with history, good attendance, good budget, and national appeal. If BYU won’t come then add AFA or CSU.

Pretty good choices. I think BYU may be ready. Boise State might be ready again as well.

I also would go with 4 teams...I would go with the Aztecs, Boise, Fresno State, and UNLV.
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(02-06-2020 04:51 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  
(02-04-2020 04:04 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  
(02-04-2020 03:36 PM)SteveAztec Wrote:  Braveknight, with you being all in on the Aztecs coming, there has to be a 2nd team from the West. Who would be your choice?

Or would it make sense to have 4 from the West. Who would be those other 3?

If it were up to me, I would add BYU, Boise State, and SDSU. Big brands with history, good attendance, good budget, and national appeal. If BYU won’t come then add AFA or CSU.

I like that too but going past 12 would be a hard sell, frankly I'd like to see 2 added from SDSU Boise and BYU and kick out Tulsa.

East
UCF
usf
Cincinnati
Temple
ECU
Tulane(moved from west)

West
Houston
Memphis
SMU
Navy
SDSU (new addition)
Boise (new addition)

Tulsa isn't bringing much to the table?
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(02-07-2020 04:32 AM)SteveAztec Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 04:51 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  
(02-04-2020 04:04 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  
(02-04-2020 03:36 PM)SteveAztec Wrote:  Braveknight, with you being all in on the Aztecs coming, there has to be a 2nd team from the West. Who would be your choice?

Or would it make sense to have 4 from the West. Who would be those other 3?

If it were up to me, I would add BYU, Boise State, and SDSU. Big brands with history, good attendance, good budget, and national appeal. If BYU won’t come then add AFA or CSU.

I like that too but going past 12 would be a hard sell, frankly I'd like to see 2 added from SDSU Boise and BYU and kick out Tulsa.

East
UCF
usf
Cincinnati
Temple
ECU
Tulane(moved from west)

West
Houston
Memphis
SMU
Navy
SDSU (new addition)
Boise (new addition)

Tulsa isn't bringing much to the table?
Haven’t don’t much since joining the AAC (Although admittedly UCF can never seem to win @Tulsa in any sport), they have the smallest enrollment in FBS and usually struggle to get any fans or attention to their program. They just don’t have much growth potential. ECU has similar problems but has a much larger enrollment and a much bigger fanbase/stadium.
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Thanks for getting me updated on Tulsa. I know very little about the AAC except it is a better Conf. than the MWC & a place where San Diego State needs to be.

Here is why I back Fresno State & UNLV into the AAC along with the Aztecs & Boise.

-Fresno is a semi big City and has the greatest followers of their program in California. Fresno is a Sports crazy city and the love one team in California and one team only...The Fresno State Bulldogs. Great facilites, great attendance, proud program that is looking to grow.

-UNLV has the highest upside of any team in the MWC. Big City, growing to be bigger. A destination location for travelers that every fan base would love to do. The Thomas & Mack for basketball is fantastic and seats around 19,000. Their football sucks, but here is where potential comes in. The Raiders are almost finished with their Stadium in Las Vegas which is fabulous. UNLV is going to play some games in that Stadium and if they get into a bigger Conf. that excited the locals they might play all of their games there. I never look at UNLV's records when thinking about them being in a bigger Conf. Their upside is Gigantic.

I am so high on the potential of Fresno State and UNLV coming into the AAC with the Aztecs that I put the 4 teams I would want in order like this...

1. San Diego State
2. Fresno State
3. UNLV
4. Boise State

****If we add BYU to the list, I put them at 3 with UNLV and Boise State as 4a and 4b****

5. Air Force (you can't wrong with a military shcool)
6. Colorado State
7. Reno
8. San Jose State (6-7-8 are interchangeable to me)
9. New Mexico
10. Utah State
11. Wyoming (9-10-11 No way IMO)
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(02-07-2020 02:13 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  
(02-07-2020 04:32 AM)SteveAztec Wrote:  
(02-06-2020 04:51 PM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  
(02-04-2020 04:04 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  
(02-04-2020 03:36 PM)SteveAztec Wrote:  Braveknight, with you being all in on the Aztecs coming, there has to be a 2nd team from the West. Who would be your choice?

Or would it make sense to have 4 from the West. Who would be those other 3?

If it were up to me, I would add BYU, Boise State, and SDSU. Big brands with history, good attendance, good budget, and national appeal. If BYU won’t come then add AFA or CSU.

I like that too but going past 12 would be a hard sell, frankly I'd like to see 2 added from SDSU Boise and BYU and kick out Tulsa.

East
UCF
usf
Cincinnati
Temple
ECU
Tulane(moved from west)

West
Houston
Memphis
SMU
Navy
SDSU (new addition)
Boise (new addition)

Tulsa isn't bringing much to the table?
Haven’t don’t much since joining the AAC (Although admittedly UCF can never seem to win @Tulsa in any sport), they have the smallest enrollment in FBS and usually struggle to get any fans or attention to their program. They just don’t have much growth potential. ECU has similar problems but has a much larger enrollment and a much bigger fanbase/stadium.

And according to some reports I've seen Tulsa is cutting their athletic funding where ECU has been actively investing in it and trying to overcome some bad hires. Cutting funding from a bottom of conference football program is troubling. Although as Braveknight said we somehow cannot seem to win in the wasteland that is Tulsa.
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(02-07-2020 08:21 PM)SteveAztec Wrote:  Thanks for getting me updated on Tulsa. I know very little about the AAC except it is a better Conf. than the MWC & a place where San Diego State needs to be.

Here is why I back Fresno State & UNLV into the AAC along with the Aztecs & Boise.

-Fresno is a semi big City and has the greatest followers of their program in California. Fresno is a Sports crazy city and the love one team in California and one team only...The Fresno State Bulldogs. Great facilites, great attendance, proud program that is looking to grow.

-UNLV has the highest upside of any team in the MWC. Big City, growing to be bigger. A destination location for travelers that every fan base would love to do. The Thomas & Mack for basketball is fantastic and seats around 19,000. Their football sucks, but here is where potential comes in. The Raiders are almost finished with their Stadium in Las Vegas which is fabulous. UNLV is going to play some games in that Stadium and if they get into a bigger Conf. that excited the locals they might play all of their games there. I never look at UNLV's records when thinking about them being in a bigger Conf. Their upside is Gigantic.

I am so high on the potential of Fresno State and UNLV coming into the AAC with the Aztecs that I put the 4 teams I would want in order like this...

1. San Diego State
2. Fresno State
3. UNLV
4. Boise State

****If we add BYU to the list, I put them at 3 with UNLV and Boise State as 4a and 4b****

5. Air Force (you can't wrong with a military shcool)
6. Colorado State
7. Reno
8. San Jose State (6-7-8 are interchangeable to me)
9. New Mexico
10. Utah State
11. Wyoming (9-10-11 No way IMO)

Solid breakdown, admittedly I am not overly familiar with the MWC teams. We all tend to pay more attention to our conference teams and other teams in our geographic area.

I'm in favor of SDSU, great hoops, great academics and good football arguably great depending on the quality level one gives the MWC. The questions revolve around travel & time differentials. A lot of people have argued that more geographic teams would need to be added, hence your list. It doesn't seem like there's much of an appetite to go past 12 in the AAC but I'm sure if there was incentive for it IE power status & CFP inclusion on the inevitable CFP expansion then it'd be done in a heartbeat.

Your vouching for Fresno definitely made me perk up. They're typically competitive in the MWC and if they have a city behind their team that's huge. I know UCF's AD was there early in his career.

Vegas I'm sketchy on (and have been for all the pro sports teams too), just a destination isn't enough to validate a team add. I feel like you may like them for the same reason I like Tulane, they're in an awesome party city close enough that it's a crazy party weekend for away games.

Boise I still like for FB only but any kind of expanded add I don't think can have them bc they've positioned themselves as the old school mobster collecting protection money in the MWC.

BYU likes playing in their own sandbox pretending their the Mormon Notre Dame. If we don't lose members to the Big 12 we'll eventually fully achieve P6 and BYU wont accept an invite until then. But by then we wont need them so I'd put them in the never category.

Air Force I like from a quality add especially with how incredible Navy has done BUT I'm worried that 2 triple option chop blocking teams will put everyone on the IR.

CSU in my mind is ECU, both have similar records recently. Both have decent fan bases despite their recent losing records. Similar enrollments, North Carolina has about double the population as Colorado but it also has double the Universities.

No one else is reasonably worth a breakdown.

But like I said I don't really follow your conference that closely so let me know if I'm off on these.
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(02-08-2020 12:23 AM)MidknightWhiskey Wrote:  
(02-07-2020 08:21 PM)SteveAztec Wrote:  Thanks for getting me updated on Tulsa. I know very little about the AAC except it is a better Conf. than the MWC & a place where San Diego State needs to be.

Here is why I back Fresno State & UNLV into the AAC along with the Aztecs & Boise.

-Fresno is a semi big City and has the greatest followers of their program in California. Fresno is a Sports crazy city and the love one team in California and one team only...The Fresno State Bulldogs. Great facilites, great attendance, proud program that is looking to grow.

-UNLV has the highest upside of any team in the MWC. Big City, growing to be bigger. A destination location for travelers that every fan base would love to do. The Thomas & Mack for basketball is fantastic and seats around 19,000. Their football sucks, but here is where potential comes in. The Raiders are almost finished with their Stadium in Las Vegas which is fabulous. UNLV is going to play some games in that Stadium and if they get into a bigger Conf. that excited the locals they might play all of their games there. I never look at UNLV's records when thinking about them being in a bigger Conf. Their upside is Gigantic.

I am so high on the potential of Fresno State and UNLV coming into the AAC with the Aztecs that I put the 4 teams I would want in order like this...

1. San Diego State
2. Fresno State
3. UNLV
4. Boise State

****If we add BYU to the list, I put them at 3 with UNLV and Boise State as 4a and 4b****

5. Air Force (you can't wrong with a military shcool)
6. Colorado State
7. Reno
8. San Jose State (6-7-8 are interchangeable to me)
9. New Mexico
10. Utah State
11. Wyoming (9-10-11 No way IMO)

Solid breakdown, admittedly I am not overly familiar with the MWC teams. We all tend to pay more attention to our conference teams and other teams in our geographic area.

I'm in favor of SDSU, great hoops, great academics and good football arguably great depending on the quality level one gives the MWC. The questions revolve around travel & time differentials. A lot of people have argued that more geographic teams would need to be added, hence your list. It doesn't seem like there's much of an appetite to go past 12 in the AAC but I'm sure if there was incentive for it IE power status & CFP inclusion on the inevitable CFP expansion then it'd be done in a heartbeat.

Your vouching for Fresno definitely made me perk up. They're typically competitive in the MWC and if they have a city behind their team that's huge. I know UCF's AD was there early in his career.

Vegas I'm sketchy on (and have been for all the pro sports teams too), just a destination isn't enough to validate a team add. I feel like you may like them for the same reason I like Tulane, they're in an awesome party city close enough that it's a crazy party weekend for away games.

Boise I still like for FB only but any kind of expanded add I don't think can have them bc they've positioned themselves as the old school mobster collecting protection money in the MWC.

BYU likes playing in their own sandbox pretending their the Mormon Notre Dame. If we don't lose members to the Big 12 we'll eventually fully achieve P6 and BYU wont accept an invite until then. But by then we wont need them so I'd put them in the never category.

Air Force I like from a quality add especially with how incredible Navy has done BUT I'm worried that 2 triple option chop blocking teams will put everyone on the IR.

CSU in my mind is ECU, both have similar records recently. Both have decent fan bases despite their recent losing records. Similar enrollments, North Carolina has about double the population as Colorado but it also has double the Universities.

No one else is reasonably worth a breakdown.

But like I said I don't really follow your conference that closely so let me know if I'm off on these.
The thing about Colorado State is they have a really high ceiling. It’s a State flagship university with a large athletic budget and brand new facilities. Their fanbase is big with more alumni in Colorado than CU (From what I’ve heard). They are closer than most of the other MWC candidates and also have something most AAC schools don’t have, a built in rivalry with an in state P5 school. Also their basketball facilities are nicer than ECU and have more history and potential there as well.

UNLV is an interesting program because I definitely agree they have a high ceiling, but I haven’t seen whether they can consistently draw good crowds, at least for football. Nevada is also not exactly a fertile recruiting area. Now they have a historically super strong basketball program, and even have a national title. Great location obviously too, but now they have to compete with the Raiders for attention as well.

SteveAztec actually sold me on Fresno as well, for some reason most AAC fans aren’t really familiar with that school. I wasn’t aware that their fanbase was that strong and that their city cares about them that much. Now I’m not sure whether their basketball team would be competitive in the AAC, but feel free to enlighten me.
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