i watched all the game simultaneously yesterday..and what i thought was interesting was the halftime shows

the 2 had the same topic, with the same hostss..."who can advance in the tournament"... between 1 halftime show they convinced themselves out of Wichita..

1st show: houston and Wichita ..
one guy: made a dejon joke but said when he plays houston is a above everyone in the league..
other guy: wichita, the most complete in the league...but both note how Wichita is struggling

2nd show-10 mins later: both of them: its houston or nobody

(02-07-2020 11:26 AM)Joprior23 Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 11:03 AM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  in my opinion we have Zero teams solidly in.


Houston loses to WSU and they are a bubble team.


No one in this league did anything remotely great in the non conference

We would go from a 7 seed (as of this morning in Lunardi’s bracket) to a 10 or 11 seed? That’s extremely doubtful.

No, not with a Home loss to WSU. Now maybe with a Home loss to WSU combined with a loss to @USF or home vs Tulsa.

(02-07-2020 11:30 AM)pesik Wrote:  i watched all the game simultaneously yesterday..and what i thought was interesting was the halftime shows

the 2 had the same topic, with the same hostss..."who can advance in the tournament"... between 1 halftime show they convinced themselves out of wichite..

1st show: houston and wichita ..
one guy: made a dejon joke but said when he plays houston is a above everyone in the league..
other guy: wichita, the most complete in the league...but both note how wichita is struggling

2nd show-10 mins later: both of them: its houston or nobody

Wichita is the most complete team in the league when we hit on both sides of the ball. We have only shown that in a handful of games, so it really shouldn't be expected.

We've shown the defense in about 90% of the games, but the offense has only shown flashes. WSU has arguably the 2nd best big man in the league and a collection of shooters who on any day can go off (Etienne, Dexter, Stevenson, even Sherfield and Burton at times) but frankly they are on the wrong side of the consistency curve.

(02-07-2020 11:30 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 11:26 AM)Joprior23 Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 11:03 AM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  in my opinion we have Zero teams solidly in.


Houston loses to WSU and they are a bubble team.


No one in this league did anything remotely great in the non conference

We would go from a 7 seed (as of this morning in Lunardi’s bracket) to a 10 or 11 seed? That’s extremely doubtful.

No, not with a Home loss to WSU. Now maybe with a Home loss to WSU combined with a loss to @USF or home vs Tulsa.

Agreed. But he said we are a bubble team with a home loss to Wichita. Which isn’t the case. And a bad take.

(02-07-2020 11:33 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 11:30 AM)pesik Wrote:  i watched all the game simultaneously yesterday..and what i thought was interesting was the halftime shows

the 2 had the same topic, with the same hostss..."who can advance in the tournament"... between 1 halftime show they convinced themselves out of wichite..

1st show: houston and wichita ..
one guy: made a dejon joke but said when he plays houston is a above everyone in the league..
other guy: wichita, the most complete in the league...but both note how wichita is struggling

2nd show-10 mins later: both of them: its houston or nobody

Wichita is the most complete team in the league when we hit on both sides of the ball. We have only shown that in a handful of games, so it really shouldn't be expected.

We've shown the defense in about 90% of the games, but the offense has only shown flashes. WSU has arguably the 2nd best big man in the league and a collection of shooters who on any day can go off (Etienne, Dexter, Stevenson, even Sherfield and Burton at times) but frankly they are on the wrong side of the consistency curve.

It’s hard to say your the most complete team in the league when your offense is not Even in the top 100

Only 2 teams in this league with top 60 offense and defense. UC and Houston




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(02-07-2020 11:38 AM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 11:33 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 11:30 AM)pesik Wrote:  i watched all the game simultaneously yesterday..and what i thought was interesting was the halftime shows

the 2 had the same topic, with the same hostss..."who can advance in the tournament"... between 1 halftime show they convinced themselves out of wichite..

1st show: houston and wichita ..
one guy: made a dejon joke but said when he plays houston is a above everyone in the league..
other guy: wichita, the most complete in the league...but both note how wichita is struggling

2nd show-10 mins later: both of them: its houston or nobody

Wichita is the most complete team in the league when we hit on both sides of the ball. We have only shown that in a handful of games, so it really shouldn't be expected.

We've shown the defense in about 90% of the games, but the offense has only shown flashes. WSU has arguably the 2nd best big man in the league and a collection of shooters who on any day can go off (Etienne, Dexter, Stevenson, even Sherfield and Burton at times) but frankly they are on the wrong side of the consistency curve.

It’s hard to say your the most complete team in the league when your offense is not Even in the top 100

Only 2 teams in this league with top 60 offense and defense. UC and Houston




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That's why I said when we are hitting on both sides ... it's rare, but we seem to have the overall best collection (UC and Houston are right there though with not quite as good/consistent of defenses).

The problem is the rare part. We've shown no indication that we can consistently put it together.

(02-07-2020 11:36 AM)Joprior23 Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 11:30 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 11:26 AM)Joprior23 Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 11:03 AM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  in my opinion we have Zero teams solidly in.


Houston loses to WSU and they are a bubble team.


No one in this league did anything remotely great in the non conference

We would go from a 7 seed (as of this morning in Lunardi’s bracket) to a 10 or 11 seed? That’s extremely doubtful.

No, not with a Home loss to WSU. Now maybe with a Home loss to WSU combined with a loss to @USF or home vs Tulsa.

Agreed. But he said we are a bubble team with a home loss to Wichita. Which isn’t the case. And a bad take.

My point is...


Your far from a lock.

You have 1 tier 1 win and 6 tier 2 wins


The same as UC


We have 3 bad losses, you have 1.

But regardless. You’re not a lock.




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(02-07-2020 11:46 AM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 11:36 AM)Joprior23 Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 11:30 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 11:26 AM)Joprior23 Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 11:03 AM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  in my opinion we have Zero teams solidly in.


Houston loses to WSU and they are a bubble team.


No one in this league did anything remotely great in the non conference

We would go from a 7 seed (as of this morning in Lunardi’s bracket) to a 10 or 11 seed? That’s extremely doubtful.

No, not with a Home loss to WSU. Now maybe with a Home loss to WSU combined with a loss to @USF or home vs Tulsa.

Agreed. But he said we are a bubble team with a home loss to Wichita. Which isn’t the case. And a bad take.

My point is...


Your far from a lock.

You have 1 tier 1 win and 6 tier 2 wins


The same as UC


We have 3 bad losses, you have 1.

But regardless. You’re not a lock.




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No on in this league can tank the rest of the way and get in. Everyone is in the 7-11 category that is being mentioned as possible. That's a string of missed opportunites or a bad loss or two away from being bumped out

I think UC, Houston, Wichita and Memphis all get in.

There are as many if not more teams in other conferences that are trending downward as upward.

(02-07-2020 12:00 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:  I think UC, Houston, Wichita and Memphis all get in.

There are as many if not more teams in other conferences that are trending downward as upward.

Hopefully that's correct. It's not good for AAC teams to be on the same bubble as P5 teams ..

(02-07-2020 11:05 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 10:41 AM)rosewater Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 10:16 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 10:15 AM)Joprior23 Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 10:13 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  While I dont' forsee it happening .. even Houston is just a loss or two from falling from solidly in. Not much separating the top 6-7 right now.

I agree. I’m just saying as of today. Wichita, Memphis, and Cincy are 1 or 2 wins away to being in the solidly in category. Crazy basketball season.

Match-ups seem to matter even more than normal this year. Some teams are just match up bad with others .. That's how you get the things like Memphis Beating Cincy who beat Tulsa by 30 who beat Memphis by 40 ....

Cincinnati is not the same team that played Memphis. After Memphis Brannen moved Cumberland to point guard and it has made a tremendous difference.

Jarron was playing a good amount of point in the Memphis game. He just played really poorly as far as handling the ball. The other issue is Memphis' athletic bigs and shot blocking are a difficult matchup for Cincinnati. We depend so much on scoring at the rim as we don't have great shooters. Against most teams (even good interior defensive teams) we manage to do that well. We missed a ton of close shots against Memphis (and had 8 blocked) and much of the credit for that should go to Memphis. (I also thought we got a tough whistle around the rim, but I know nobody wants to hear that)

So you would agree the difference is more about match-ups and I think that it is a very good point about our difficulty with their bigs . This is the point of debate, however, in the words of the great Kelvin Sampson, "The move to point (full time)has allowed Cumberland to get his mojo back.“ “When they put him at point guard, that’s when Jarron took off,” Sampson said. “I think it speaks to Coach Brannen making a great move and adjusting to his personnel. It brings out the best in Jarron. I just love his basketball IQ and his creativity. Cumberland is just a monster.”" https://www.houstonchronicle.com/sports/...021646.php So, I am not ready to concede the point, but lets call this a push.

(02-07-2020 11:46 AM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 11:36 AM)Joprior23 Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 11:30 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 11:26 AM)Joprior23 Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 11:03 AM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  in my opinion we have Zero teams solidly in.


Houston loses to WSU and they are a bubble team.


No one in this league did anything remotely great in the non conference

We would go from a 7 seed (as of this morning in Lunardi’s bracket) to a 10 or 11 seed? That’s extremely doubtful.

No, not with a Home loss to WSU. Now maybe with a Home loss to WSU combined with a loss to @USF or home vs Tulsa.

Agreed. But he said we are a bubble team with a home loss to Wichita. Which isn’t the case. And a bad take.

My point is...


Your far from a lock.

You have 1 tier 1 win and 6 tier 2 wins


The same as UC


We have 3 bad losses, you have 1.

But regardless. You’re not a lock.




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I never said we are a lock. I said we are “solidly in as of today”.

I thought that cincinnati, Wichita, and Houston have passed the eye test with their play of late. If Memphis cuts down their turnovers, they would also be there. I have only seen Tulsa once and that was not pretty.

Alright UConn. Lets dance once last time. Despite UC's recent run of dominance against UConn, we've had a lot of great matchups over the years.

Awesome picture of Jarron's game winning And1.

(02-07-2020 12:25 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Awesome picture of Jarron's game winning And1.

Not a foul at all.

Just some UFC ****



Also shows how bad Jarron beat him to the rim that he had to use to use his leg to make up space


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Was there a bunch of complaining about the call? Looked clear. Jarron is getting to the rim and Dennis kicked his leg out to cut him off. Hell of a play by Jarron, absorbing the contact and finishing off the glass.

(02-07-2020 10:43 AM)natibeast21 Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 09:13 AM)panicstricken Wrote:  

(02-06-2020 09:28 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  How did this turn into a UC v Tulsa fight? Who cares about Tulsa?

I learned from the master.

UC-Covey Bear fans are soft targets.

I really don't get the UC-Covington thing.

For basketball, once you cross the bridge your basically in UK territory even in Newport/Covington with some UC/Xavier/OSU/Louisville/Dayton/NKU mixed in.

I think he started that in 2018 when we played the season at NKU. Of course, NKU is not even in Covington, it is in Highland Heights.

It is stupid, it would like me calling Tulsa UT-Claremore. Covington is just part of the Cincinnati Metro Area.

I just watched the replay of Wichita’s last shot and Stevenson clearly shuffled his feet multiple times before he inbounded the ball. Should have been called for a travel.

(02-07-2020 11:30 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 11:26 AM)Joprior23 Wrote:  

(02-07-2020 11:03 AM)justinhub2003 Wrote:  in my opinion we have Zero teams solidly in.


Houston loses to WSU and they are a bubble team.


No one in this league did anything remotely great in the non conference

We would go from a 7 seed (as of this morning in Lunardi’s bracket) to a 10 or 11 seed? That’s extremely doubtful.

No, not with a Home loss to WSU. Now maybe with a Home loss to WSU combined with a loss to @USF or home vs Tulsa.

How would you feel about a home loss to WSU and a road loss to UConn? Not saying we'll definitely win, but it's a game we have a legitimate shot in imo.

I'm just curious how the committee would view us with all of our close losses. We are way better than our record indicates, as reflected in the most recent net rankings (we jumped from 92 to 69.) Normally, a loss to a team barely above .500 wouldn't look good, but we've played a lot of solid to good teams and barely lost so I don't think it would personally sink them.