(01-04-2020 11:13 PM)BraveKnight Wrote:  SMU explodes to win by 11, 92-81. Jank survives again

The players won that game not the coach

(01-04-2020 11:13 PM)pesik Wrote:  SMU pulls out a miracle with the season on the line...and wins

11-2 ..no bad losses, no great wins.. what conference record do you think theyll need for an at-large?

Minimum needed will be 12-6. If they want to be comfortable, 14-4. With 1 win in the conference tourney.

I agree that 25 wins for the season gets SMU in so 14-4 + a conference tournament win sounds about right. However it depends on how soft the bubble is. Last year 12-6 would have comfortably put them in with 10-11 wins still giving them a chance.

(01-04-2020 11:56 PM)mustangxc Wrote:  I agree that 25 wins for the season gets SMU in so 14-4 + a conference tournament win sounds about right. However it depends on how soft the bubble is. Last year 12-6 would have comfortably put them in with 10-11 wins still giving them a chance.

They’re not being left out at 14-4 with a conference tourney win. Hell, that probably gets them a 7 or 8 seed. 12 wins and they’re probably sweating it out. But I think that gets them into the last 4 in group.

(01-04-2020 09:30 PM)Shockit Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 07:26 PM)Miggy Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 05:29 PM)I_LUV_MEMPHISTIGERS Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 05:03 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 03:35 PM)pesik Wrote:  * Miggy Unnecessarily confident in the preseason


"Temple will win the aac and are the best and most talent team in the league, and uconn will be the 2nd or 3rd best team"



"Yeah that looks right"

*also miggy


"erik stevenson and jamarious burton arent good players, im not impressed with either of them. wichita has to bench both before i can see them being any good"8

He's only scored 27 points so far. What a bum, LOL.

I believe I wrote before the season commenced that Erik Stevenson was not a good player last season. His stats from last season back that up. averaged only 6.5 ppg, shot only 41.5 percent on 2’s, and and a woeful 27.8 percent on 3’s, and has excessively fouled opponents. Hardly qualifies as a good player. Pesik, if you think those his stats show him to be a good a good player, I’m not surprised.

Last season Burton averaged 6 ppg, shot 42 percent on 2’s, only 26.3 percent on 3’s. Burton is shooting 53 percent at the foul l-line this year. Needs to do better. Not exactly stellar numbers.still not impressed by those numbers.

Nice that they both improved this season. Sure if they hadn’t Etienne and Sherfield would both be playing more than they are.

Miggy wouldn’t listen to us (WSU fans)earlier when he was trashing our team. I tried to tell you that Eric and Burton were not good (our team sucked early) early last year. But we were a solid team the 2nd half of the year and during the NIT run we were pretty good. Our young zFreshmen probably improved the most. I just didn’t foresee Dexter Dennis struggling like he is.

Even in conference play last season , both Stevenson and Burton both shot below 30 percent on 3’s. They both have vastly improved this season. Freshman Etienne has been a difference has been a difference maker, plus other new players have helped as well. Congrats!

(01-04-2020 11:58 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 11:56 PM)mustangxc Wrote:  I agree that 25 wins for the season gets SMU in so 14-4 + a conference tournament win sounds about right. However it depends on how soft the bubble is. Last year 12-6 would have comfortably put them in with 10-11 wins still giving them a chance.

They’re not being left out at 14-4 with a conference tourney win. Hell, that probably gets them a 7 or 8 seed. 12 wins and they’re probably sweating it out. But I think that gets them into the last 4 in group.

I wasn't disagreeing with you. I agree that 14-4 practically makes them a lock with 12 wins likely in and 11 keeping them in the conversation.

(01-05-2020 10:48 AM)mustangxc Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 11:58 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 11:56 PM)mustangxc Wrote:  I agree that 25 wins for the season gets SMU in so 14-4 + a conference tournament win sounds about right. However it depends on how soft the bubble is. Last year 12-6 would have comfortably put them in with 10-11 wins still giving them a chance.

They’re not being left out at 14-4 with a conference tourney win. Hell, that probably gets them a 7 or 8 seed. 12 wins and they’re probably sweating it out. But I think that gets them into the last 4 in group.

I wasn't disagreeing with you. I agree that 14-4 practically makes them a lock with 12 wins likely in and 11 keeping them in the conversation.

Gotcha. Their net jumped to 60 after last night’s win. All they need to do is avoid any bad losses in conference and take out 1 or 2 of the top 3. I think they can do that.

(01-04-2020 06:16 PM)DownOnRohs Wrote:  There have been more charge calls in college basketball this season than I can ever remember. UC got called for like 7 today and Tulane 0.

And I’m not sure any of them were obvious charge calls. Maybe 1 if I remember correctly.

I hate the call. Nobody knows what a charge is. I feel like it should default to a block unless it’s clear and obvious. Sliding in front of a ball handler is not defending the ball.

Ahhh, yes it is, it's the definition of good defense actually. Reaching, not moving your feet, is bad defense. It's called ole defense, matador defense, and lazy defense. Defenders are often made to drill staying in front of opponents with hands behind their back or with out using them.

No the charging call is not hard, nor is it some vague unknown.

The rule is pretty simple, everyone has a right to the floor, once you gain position on the floor, an opponent may not physically take it from you. Contact to gain an advantage is a foul.

If I am in the spot and you run into me (whether or not my feet are set) you have used physical contact to gain that spot on the floor (an advantage). That is a charging foul.

Now if you are driving and I step in to you or bump into you to prevent the drive I have used physical contact to gain an advantage as a defender. That is a blocking foul.

First person to the spot in a defensive or offensive stance has the right to it.

SMU is gonna hover around .500 in conference play. Jank is a joke and his once again inflated W/L record has you people falling for his trick.

No doubt the record is inflated, but we really should have won against Georgia and slapped around USF that subsequently slapped around UConn. I'm not falling for anything, but at least see enough good things to think we have a chance if we keep improving.

(01-05-2020 10:43 AM)Miggy Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 09:30 PM)Shockit Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 07:26 PM)Miggy Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 05:29 PM)I_LUV_MEMPHISTIGERS Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 05:03 PM)pesik Wrote:  *also miggy


"erik stevenson and jamarious burton arent good players, im not impressed with either of them. wichita has to bench both before i can see them being any good"8

He's only scored 27 points so far. What a bum, LOL.

I believe I wrote before the season commenced that Erik Stevenson was not a good player last season. His stats from last season back that up. averaged only 6.5 ppg, shot only 41.5 percent on 2’s, and and a woeful 27.8 percent on 3’s, and has excessively fouled opponents. Hardly qualifies as a good player. Pesik, if you think those his stats show him to be a good a good player, I’m not surprised.

Last season Burton averaged 6 ppg, shot 42 percent on 2’s, only 26.3 percent on 3’s. Burton is shooting 53 percent at the foul l-line this year. Needs to do better. Not exactly stellar numbers.still not impressed by those numbers.

Nice that they both improved this season. Sure if they hadn’t Etienne and Sherfield would both be playing more than they are.

Miggy wouldn’t listen to us (WSU fans)earlier when he was trashing our team. I tried to tell you that Eric and Burton were not good (our team sucked early) early last year. But we were a solid team the 2nd half of the year and during the NIT run we were pretty good. Our young zFreshmen probably improved the most. I just didn’t foresee Dexter Dennis struggling like he is.

Even in conference play last season , both Stevenson and Burton both shot below 30 percent on 3’s. They both have vastly improved this season. Freshman Etienne has been a difference has been a difference maker, plus other new players have helped as well. Congrats!

Stevenson's 3 point shots mostly came as desperation shots in the last five seconds or so of the shot clock last year. McDuffie and the pg dominated possessions. As a catch and shoot player his average was very solid. Excluding shot clock rushes he was well above average.

Stevenson was often matched up against the opponents better guards and as a freshman wasn't physically prepared to deal with that (in particular against bigger guards like Cumberlan) it is not uncommon for good, young perimeter defenders to rack up fouls. Pretty sure he didn't foul out last year. NPL had similar issues early, especially when he was isolated and on an island where the refs could clearly see the interaction.

Wichita State was clearly a different team from about twenty games in last year. Since then their run to the NIT semis and the start of this year has been consistent. If they learn to roll back their turnover issues (still young) the team will play with anyone in the country.

But you Pesik deserve each other so have fun.

I missed the SMU game and saw they beat Vandy in Nashville. Why is everyone bagging on them? That's an excellent win isn't it?

(01-05-2020 12:55 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  I missed the SMU game and saw they beat Vandy in Nashville. Why is everyone bagging on them? That's an excellent win isn't it?

if its from the earlier pages, vandy was destroying them.. they had a miraculous comeback the last minute and a half

vandy isnt great and most thought smu should have been killing them...

(01-05-2020 01:02 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-05-2020 12:55 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  I missed the SMU game and saw they beat Vandy in Nashville. Why is everyone bagging on them? That's an excellent win isn't it?

if its from the earlier pages, vandy was destroying them.. they had a miraculous comeback the last minute and a half

vandy isnt great and most thought smu should have been killing them...

OK, but they did it on the road. They fought back and got the win. That's pretty impressive.

(01-05-2020 12:55 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  But you Pesik deserve each other so have fun.

you randomly attack me..and i dont get why..everytime me and you get into it, it almost has nothing to do with you at all..you just randomly come in and through insults at me, in a convo with nothing to do with tulsa or you

last time miggy was saying temple was the most talented and best team in the aac and i was disagreeing also noting that temples big play has to improve (which he thought was fine)..and you come in with the pesik thinks he knows more than the fans jab... (ignoring that the other temple fans in the forum agreed with me)

(01-05-2020 01:10 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-05-2020 12:55 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  But you Pesik deserve each other so have fun.

you randomly attack me..and i dont get why..everytime me and you get into it, it almost has nothing to do with you at all..you just randomly come in and through insults at me, in a convo with nothing to do with tulsa or you

last time miggy was saying temple was the most talented and best team in the aac and i was disagreeing also noting that temples big play has to improve (which he thought was fine)..and you come in with the pesik thinks he knows more than the fans jab... (ignoring that the other temple fans in the forum agreed with me)

What I find so offensive is that as soon as I picked Temple, right out of the gate you called me a “homer” to undermine my pick. I’m anything but a homer as I’ve been critical of Temple bb now and in the past.

(01-05-2020 01:09 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  

(01-05-2020 01:02 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-05-2020 12:55 PM)Memphis Yankee Wrote:  I missed the SMU game and saw they beat Vandy in Nashville. Why is everyone bagging on them? That's an excellent win isn't it?

if its from the earlier pages, vandy was destroying them.. they had a miraculous comeback the last minute and a half

vandy isnt great and most thought smu should have been killing them...

OK, but they did it on the road. They fought back and got the win. That's pretty impressive.

Vandy isn’t a good win, I wish it was. Tulsa won at Vandy earlier this year 67-58, lead most of the game and were up double digits late, and some folks were pretty excited but then Vandy started dropping a lot of games to weak teams. The bright point for Tulsa and SMU is if Vandy can upset a few SEC teams at home it will help our NET ratings.

(01-05-2020 01:35 PM)Miggy Wrote:  

(01-05-2020 01:10 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-05-2020 12:55 PM)Foreverandever Wrote:  But you Pesik deserve each other so have fun.

you randomly attack me..and i dont get why..everytime me and you get into it, it almost has nothing to do with you at all..you just randomly come in and through insults at me, in a convo with nothing to do with tulsa or you

last time miggy was saying temple was the most talented and best team in the aac and i was disagreeing also noting that temples big play has to improve (which he thought was fine)..and you come in with the pesik thinks he knows more than the fans jab... (ignoring that the other temple fans in the forum agreed with me)

What I find so offensive is that as soon as I picked Temple, right out of the gate you called me a “homer” to undermine my pick. I’m anything but a homer as I’ve been critical of Temple bb now and in the past.

thats not true at all...i was perfectly fine with you picking temple first..your justification for picking was what was homer..

i told you i could buy temple being really good if you were trying to sell me on NPL and Rose getting better and both having 1st team all conference seasons..i said thats within the realm of realistic possibilities..but thats not what you said

you are a homer, and not because you picked temple but because you say and do homer things

--you said monty scott was better than shizz alston (a 19pt per all -aac player), that scott was an elite unstoppable scorer, that he IS better than almost all of the guards in the conference. this was AFTER we saw him barely produce in the Bahamas...which you made excuses for "prepping to be the point guard" (he hasnt played point this season)--- Reality - Monty Scott on a per possession basis-he is currently the second worst statistical non freshman guard in the ENTIRE conference (matt milon is the worst)--even though we warned you mid-major stats dont hold in the AAC --100% of every guard you said scott was better than, is drastically better than scott

- you said temple was the best 3pt shooting team in the conference and had the deepest amount of shooters in the conference..--temple is horrific shooting team.. your head coach says you are bad 3pt shooting team

- you said temple would be putting up 80pt per game and would lead the conference in scoring- temple is the 2nd worst offense in the conference

i told you that you badly interpret stats...i told you interpreting sub 4pt per players percentages into the equation of good shooters is bad, they likely have a small sample size

-- you think temple has the deepest team in the aac- which you dont, or even close...you are reliant on specific players to produce unlike multi aac teams

-other bad takes: jp mooremans percentages arent holding with more responsibility
justin hamiltyn is a kevin durant like with perimeter potential

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this one is active- that you still currently say..you say devondre perry is the best shooter in the conference..ingnoring he is a career 28% 3pt shooter..and the 50% he started the season with was from a small sample size ... good shooter is one thing to say but "best shooter"

(01-05-2020 12:39 PM)mustangxc Wrote:  No doubt the record is inflated, but we really should have won against Georgia and slapped around USF that subsequently slapped around UConn. I'm not falling for anything, but at least see enough good things to think we have a chance if we keep improving.

Frankly, had SMU made one of four late free throws or been able to inbounds a ball vs Georgia they would most likely be a ranked one-loss team. It would be a total aberration...THEY ARE NOT WORTHY. But, especially with guys like Fraschilla blowing smoke up Jank’s a$$ on Twitter....they’d be 20-25 right now.
That being said they could quite possibly go .500 from here.

If you are going to jump on the SMU train you better be comfortable having no idea of its destination.

Miggy is completely clueless. Why pesik and others waste their time, I have no idea.