Memphis Freshmen are (hopefully) hungry and pissed about our loss today.

Wichita is going to be Wichita in the Roundhouse. Memphis will move back in the polls, Wichita will move up in the polls. It will be a Top 25 matchup of trading places in the polls, somewhere in the Teens.

What a day for Tulane crushing conf USA nonsense (USM) and making a statement in league play by beating Cinci. Feels good !

today and yesterdeay represent the aac and college basketball in whole for this specific season

anyone can beat anybody...the goal is is to just get in the tournament at any record, at any seed....i feel it a lower seed is winning it all this year

(01-04-2020 06:11 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  Stevenson was awesome today.

Congrats, WSU!

It's a shame we lost. Precious with 20 points and 15 rebounds. 2-3 from deep too.

Pretty hilarious, but while it's still a bad loss, losing to Tulane on the road is going to be a Quad 2 loss tomorrow when the NET rankings update. May not be at the end of the season, but you never know the way Tulane has looked so far.

Either way, UC really couldn't afford to drop one like this. It's hard to see them putting together a consistent string of wins with the kind of inconsistency they are showing from game to game.

May be a look toward the future kind of year.

(01-04-2020 06:16 PM)DownOnRohs Wrote:  There have been more charge calls in college basketball this season than I can ever remember. UC got called for like 7 today and Tulane 0.

And I’m not sure any of them were obvious charge calls. Maybe 1 if I remember correctly.

I hate the call. Nobody knows what a charge is. I feel like it should default to a block unless it’s clear and obvious. Sliding in front of a ball handler is not defending the ball.

If that were true, then every player would bullrush into the lane and draw automatic contact. You could literally do it every time down the floor. Sometimes it seems like it's impossible for defenders to play defense unless they backpedal away from the opponent and just let them score. You gotta give it both ways.

I do find it slightly ironic that a fan of a program that was known for some stingy tough man defense is now complaining about charge calls.

(01-04-2020 06:42 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 06:16 PM)DownOnRohs Wrote:  There have been more charge calls in college basketball this season than I can ever remember. UC got called for like 7 today and Tulane 0.

And I’m not sure any of them were obvious charge calls. Maybe 1 if I remember correctly.

I hate the call. Nobody knows what a charge is. I feel like it should default to a block unless it’s clear and obvious. Sliding in front of a ball handler is not defending the ball.

If that were true, then every player would bullrush into the lane and draw automatic contact. You could literally do it every time down the floor. Sometimes it seems like it's possible for defenders to play defense unless they backpedal away from the opponent and just let them score. You gotta give it both ways.

I do find it slightly ironic that a fan of a program that was known for some stingy tough man defense is now complaining about charge calls.

We have two plays in college basketball. Drive into the lane and get to the rim (against three trees), or drive into the lane and kick it out for a three. Nobody pulls up and shoots a ten footer anymore. Not in control at least.

Time for an adjustment. Remember a pop, stop and shoot a jumper? A
floater? Does anyone do that anymore?

(01-04-2020 06:18 PM)DownOnRohs Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 06:06 PM)I_LUV_MEMPHISTIGERS Wrote:  Tulane has really upped the anty in both Football and Basketball this season. They are no longer a doormat. They are a legit upset Specialist.

Now if they could only start putting fans in the arena they could start getting better game official assignments. Bottom of the barrel.

Oh, sorry, we were all at our bowl game in Ft Worth today.

(01-04-2020 06:16 PM)DownOnRohs Wrote:  There have been more charge calls in college basketball this season than I can ever remember. UC got called for like 7 today and Tulane 0.

And I’m not sure any of them were obvious charge calls. Maybe 1 if I remember correctly.

I hate the call. Nobody knows what a charge is. I feel like it should default to a block unless it’s clear and obvious. Sliding in front of a ball handler is not defending the ball.

(01-04-2020 05:29 PM)I_LUV_MEMPHISTIGERS Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 05:03 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 03:35 PM)pesik Wrote:  * Miggy Unnecessarily confident in the preseason


"Temple will win the aac and are the best and most talent team in the league, and uconn will be the 2nd or 3rd best team"



"Yeah that looks right"

*also miggy


"erik stevenson and jamarious burton arent good players, im not impressed with either of them. wichita has to bench both before i can see them being any good"

He's only scored 27 points so far. What a bum, LOL.

I believe I wrote before the season commenced that Erik Stevenson was not a good player last season. His stats from last season back that up. averaged only 6.5 ppg, shot only 41.5 percent on 2’s, and and a woeful 27.8 percent on 3’s, and has excessively fouled opponents. Hardly qualifies as a good player. Pesik, if you think those his stats show him to be a good a good player, I’m not surprised.

Last season Burton averaged 6 ppg, shot 42 percent on 2’s, only 26.3 percent on 3’s. Burton is shooting 53 percent at the foul l-line this year. Needs to do better. Not exactly stellar numbers.still not impressed by those numbers.

Nice that they both improved this season. Sure if they hadn’t Etienne and Sherfield would both be playing more than they are.

Right now, it’s hard to argue that Wichita is not the best team in this league. Come Thursday, Memphis has a daunting task ahead of them at Wichita.

(01-04-2020 07:26 PM)Miggy Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 05:29 PM)I_LUV_MEMPHISTIGERS Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 05:03 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 03:35 PM)pesik Wrote:  * Miggy Unnecessarily confident in the preseason


"Temple will win the aac and are the best and most talent team in the league, and uconn will be the 2nd or 3rd best team"



"Yeah that looks right"

*also miggy


"erik stevenson and jamarious burton arent good players, im not impressed with either of them. wichita has to bench both before i can see them being any good"

He's only scored 27 points so far. What a bum, LOL.

I believe I wrote before the season commenced that Erik Stevenson was not a good player last season. His stats from last season back that up. averaged only 6.5 ppg, shot only 41.5 percent on 2’s, and and a woeful 27.8 percent on 3’s, and has excessively fouled opponents. Hardly qualifies as a good player. Pesik, if you think those his stats show him to be a good a good player, I’m not surprised.

Last season Burton averaged 6 ppg, shot 42 percent on 2’s, only 26.3 percent on 3’s. Burton is shooting 53 percent at the foul l-line this year. Needs to do better. Not exactly stellar numbers.still not impressed by those numbers.

Nice that they both improved this season. Sure if they hadn’t Etienne and Sherfield would both be playing more than they are.

I have no idea what you did or didn't previously write, or if you are back-pedaling, or whatever, and I don't care. I don't follow the boards close enough, so please don't take that as a personal dig at you. It was a dig at anyone that watched tonight's game that doesn't acknowledge that guy has the potential to be a JJ Reddick or Adam Morrison. He was raining 3s and dropping them like dimes under duress.

(01-04-2020 07:26 PM)Miggy Wrote:  I believe I wrote before the season commenced that Erik Stevenson was not a good player last season. His stats from last season back that up. averaged only 6.5 ppg, shot only 41.5 percent on 2’s, and and a woeful 27.8 percent on 3’s, and has excessively fouled opponents. Hardly qualifies as a good player. Pesik, if you think those his stats show him to be a good a good player, I’m not surprised.

Last season Burton averaged 6 ppg, shot 42 percent on 2’s, only 26.3 percent on 3’s. Burton is shooting 53 percent at the foul l-line this year. Needs to do better. Not exactly stellar numbers.still not impressed by those numbers.

Nice that they both improved this season. Sure if they hadn’t Etienne and Sherfield would both be playing more than they are.

no, you said they wouldnt be good this season... i even posted like 3 articles saying they are definitely going to be improved (with quotes from the Wichita staff).. one from dennis saying erik was the best shooter he knew..i told you he was a an elite shooter in high school, that his stats last year as a true freshman arent an indication of his potential (and showed you highlights)

you said you dont buy erik or burton at all, improvement or not...that they are not "good guards"..and wichita should bench both and in desperate need "of an improved back-court"..you said this

you responded to my evidence that theyd be better with; that a coach/teammate saying theyll be better doesnt mean anything, and highlights dont indicate anything

here is the main article i posted
https://theathletic.com/1247169/

also i find it funny that you keep making condescending remarks about my basketball knowledge when you have the least credibility of anyone here about basketball information...

I’ll continue to say it. Miggy is a clown.

College Game Day in Wichita or do they hold out for Memphis in March?

We are pure trash on the road, plain and simple. Any hope I had for us to be a tourney team has been squashed these past 2 games. We'll be lucky to win 3 road games

(01-04-2020 08:02 PM)Joprior23 Wrote:  I’ll continue to say it. Miggy is a clown.

Miggy gonna Miggy

(01-04-2020 07:50 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 07:26 PM)Miggy Wrote:  I believe I wrote before the season commenced that Erik Stevenson was not a good player last season. His stats from last season back that up. averaged only 6.5 ppg, shot only 41.5 percent on 2’s, and and a woeful 27.8 percent on 3’s, and has excessively fouled opponents. Hardly qualifies as a good player. Pesik, if you think those his stats show him to be a good a good player, I’m not surprised.

Last season Burton averaged 6 ppg, shot 42 percent on 2’s, only 26.3 percent on 3’s. Burton is shooting 53 percent at the foul l-line this year. Needs to do better. Not exactly stellar numbers.still not impressed by those numbers.

Nice that they both improved this season. Sure if they hadn’t Etienne and Sherfield would both be playing more than they are.

no, you said they wouldnt be good this season... i even posted like 3 articles saying they are definitely going to be improved (with quotes from the Wichita staff).. one from dennis saying erik was the best shooter he knew..i told you he was a an elite shooter in high school, that his stats last year as a true freshman arent an indication of his potential (and showed you highlights)

you said you dont buy erik or burton at all, improvement or not...that they are not "good guards"..and wichita should bench both and in desperate need "of an improved back-court"..you said this

you responded to my evidence that theyd be better with; that a coach/teammate saying theyll be better doesnt mean anything, and highlights dont indicate anything

here is the main article i posted
https://theathletic.com/1247169/

also i find it funny that you keep making condescending remarks about my basketball knowledge when you have the least credibility of anyone here about basketball information...

I based my opinion on their stats fromLast year. I didn’t see them play this summer.

If I accepted what a coach said it would be the same as my saying as you do that a certain recruit will be good or bad based on a service ranking, even though you haven’t seen him play.

I’ve complained about you doing that. Said you should see them play before telling readers they are good or not. I need to see a player play before making an assessment. Till then I rely on last year’s stats.

Clowns may well be posters you don’t see players play, yet tell us how good or bad they are.

If you want to criticize me for not accepting blindly what Marshall says about one of his players that’s fine.

(01-04-2020 08:31 PM)Miggy Wrote:  I based my opinion on their stats fromLast year. I didn’t see them play this summer.

If I accepted what a coach said it would be the same as my saying as you do that a certain recruit will be good or bad based on a service ranking, even though you haven’t seen him play.

I’ve complained about you doing that. Said you should see them play before telling readers they are good or not. I need to see a player play before making an assessment. Till then I rely on last year’s stats.

Clowns may well be posters you don’t see players play, yet tell us how good or bad they are.

If you want to criticize me for not accepting blindly what Marshall says about one of his players that’s fine.

i have never said any player is good or bad without watching them...saying player isnt touted or saying they arent note-able ..doesnt mean they are bad...

also i showed you film of stevenson from high school and a game from last season he was on fire...we even talked about it

no offense miggy, outside of the constant condescending remarks i like you..but legitimately almost every single thing you called preseason was wrong, really wrongg...not 1 thing was correct out of like 50 hot takes ..

(01-04-2020 07:50 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(01-04-2020 07:26 PM)Miggy Wrote:  I believe I wrote before the season commenced that Erik Stevenson was not a good player last season. His stats from last season back that up. averaged only 6.5 ppg, shot only 41.5 percent on 2’s, and and a woeful 27.8 percent on 3’s, and has excessively fouled opponents. Hardly qualifies as a good player. Pesik, if you think those his stats show him to be a good a good player, I’m not surprised.

Last season Burton averaged 6 ppg, shot 42 percent on 2’s, only 26.3 percent on 3’s. Burton is shooting 53 percent at the foul l-line this year. Needs to do better. Not exactly stellar numbers.still not impressed by those numbers.

Nice that they both improved this season. Sure if they hadn’t Etienne and Sherfield would both be playing more than they are.

no, you said they wouldnt be good this season... i even posted like 3 articles saying they are definitely going to be improved (with quotes from the Wichita staff).. one from dennis saying erik was the best shooter he knew..i told you he was a an elite shooter in high school, that his stats last year as a true freshman arent an indication of his potential (and showed you highlights)

you said you dont buy erik or burton at all, improvement or not...that they are not "good guards"..and wichita should bench both and in desperate need "of an improved back-court"..you said this

you responded to my evidence that theyd be better with; that a coach/teammate saying theyll be better doesnt mean anything, and highlights dont indicate anything

here is the main article i posted
https://theathletic.com/1247169/

also i find it funny that you keep making condescending remarks about my basketball knowledge when you have the least credibility of anyone here about basketball information...

I find that your knowledge is quite off-base, and condescending both to me and other posters.

I doubt than any of us will correctly pick the order of finish. All projections are a crap shoot as so many players have left, new transfers and recruits have joined teams, and few us have seen them play before projections made. And Head coaches have departed and new one’s hired. As such, no should be criticized for their picks.

I was in a better assess to Temple’s roster, but I took a leap of faith on the new HC. Did I think Temple’s opponents were going to score 10 less points than last year as they have. The answer is no. Assumed there would be only a slight decline in opponent scoring.

Hearing the new HC was going to play up-tempo, and knowing the roster, I assumed that Temple would score more points per game. Did not know HC would install an ineffective offense for whoever he played, and play players more than better players on the roster. So even though Temple has many games to play, I don’t see a bright future until major changes made, and that is unlikely to happen.

See we are all making prediction on little solid evidence, and made preseason before any team played games, no one should be poked fun at for their picks.