There are 56 Wins available for ACC teams playing ACC teams next season. That's 56 ACC wins for 14 ACC teams.

Tell your fellow ACC posters how many Wins your ACC team will get against ACC members, and Why/How.

Nine ACC wins.

Because nobody is anywhere close to our talent or coaching level at this point.

(01-02-2020 11:35 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  Nine ACC wins.

Because nobody is anywhere close to our talent or coaching level at this point.

Seems right to me! 8-0 and then win ACC Champ Game.

I would predict that too until there's a "state" change in the ACC. None on the horizon, however.

VT will beat Duke, lose at UL, UNC and Pitt, beat BC, maybe beat GT and UM (depends on how fast Collins improves GT and whether Diaz lays another egg, and they won't lose to UVA at home, so... I have VT going 5-3 in the ACC (hopefully I'm pleasantly surprised!)

I think my Cards will stretch to their limit next year, and will win 6 games. The one absolutely certain loss is to Clemson.

(01-02-2020 12:14 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  VT will beat Duke, lose at UL, UNC and Pitt, beat BC, maybe beat GT and UM (depends on how fast Collins improves GT and whether Diaz lays another egg, and they won't lose to UVA at home, so... I have VT going 5-3 in the ACC (hopefully I'm pleasantly surprised!)

Thanks for playing. I have VT going 6-2.

Collins said on early signing day this would be his last December free to recruit like this. That's pretty much a guarantee of a bowl game next season. I'll go with 4-5 ACC wins. I don't think people will be expecting the dramatic roster difference (at least at the starter level) because of the recruiting class AND all the transfers who had to sit out b/c the NCAA slammed the portal shut.

(01-02-2020 12:21 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Collins said on early signing day this would be his last December free to recruit like this. That's pretty much a guarantee of a bowl game next season. I'll go with 4-5 ACC wins. I don't think people will be expecting the dramatic roster difference (at least at the starter level) because of the recruiting class AND all the transfers who had to sit out b/c the NCAA slammed the portal shut.

My only added thought is that the recruiting effect could be delayed one season.

(01-02-2020 12:21 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Collins said on early signing day this would be his last December free to recruit like this. That's pretty much a guarantee of a bowl game next season. I'll go with 4-5 ACC wins. I don't think people will be expecting the dramatic roster difference (at least at the starter level) because of the recruiting class AND all the transfers who had to sit out b/c the NCAA slammed the portal shut.

I'll put you down as on-the-fence at 4.5 ACC wins.

(01-02-2020 12:37 PM)IHAVETRIED Wrote:  

(01-02-2020 12:21 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Collins said on early signing day this would be his last December free to recruit like this. That's pretty much a guarantee of a bowl game next season. I'll go with 4-5 ACC wins. I don't think people will be expecting the dramatic roster difference (at least at the starter level) because of the recruiting class AND all the transfers who had to sit out b/c the NCAA slammed the portal shut.

I'll put you down as on-the-fence at 4.5 ACC wins.

A Michael Wilbon-esk push at 4.5 works for me.

As a man without a team, I really can't play the game as it's posed in the OP. If I were a betting man though, I would say that if we got answers from all 14 schools we would probably be looking at a lot more predicted total wins than 56. We all tend to be over-optimistic at this time of year.

What really matters is how many wins will we get OOC - especially against P5 opponents. In 2019 I think the ACC overscheduled a bit, with 10 losses coming to teams that had 10 or more wins in the regular season. Haven't had a chance yet to look at next year's OOC slate, but it can't be harder than that.

(01-02-2020 12:17 PM)IHAVETRIED Wrote:  

(01-02-2020 12:14 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  VT will beat Duke, lose at UL, UNC and Pitt, beat BC, maybe beat GT and UM (depends on how fast Collins improves GT and whether Diaz lays another egg, and they won't lose to UVA at home, so... I have VT going 5-3 in the ACC (hopefully I'm pleasantly surprised!)

Thanks for playing. I have VT going 6-2.

Right now I'll take that.

Of course, an OOC sweep (including a win over Penn State) would be nice...

Louisville will go either 6-2 or 7-1 depending on how quickly Satterfield gets the freshmen up to par. I think we are 3 yrs away from challenging Clemson for the division title. Once Satterfield gets the program consistent and our depth built back up there will be a new sheriff. Petrino really did a number on our program on his way out.

(01-02-2020 01:29 PM)ken d Wrote:  As a man without a team, I really can't play the game as it's posed in the OP. If I were a betting man though, I would say that if we got answers from all 14 schools we would probably be looking at a lot more predicted total wins than 56. We all tend to be over-optimistic at this time of year.

What really matters is how many wins will we get OOC - especially against P5 opponents. In 2019 I think the ACC overscheduled a bit, with 10 losses coming to teams that had 10 or more wins in the regular season. Haven't had a chance yet to look at next year's OOC slate, but it can't be harder than that.

Actually that was kinda the point of the OP. But I wanted to triangulate the responses. just to see how optimistic the various fan bases were.

(01-02-2020 01:29 PM)ken d Wrote:  As a man without a team, I really can't play the game as it's posed in the OP. If I were a betting man though, I would say that if we got answers from all 14 schools we would probably be looking at a lot more predicted total wins than 56. We all tend to be over-optimistic at this time of year.

What really matters is how many wins will we get OOC - especially against P5 opponents. In 2019 I think the ACC over-scheduled a bit, with 10 losses coming to teams that had 10 or more wins in the regular season. Haven't had a chance yet to look at next year's OOC slate, but it can't be harder than that.

Next year the ACC has 6 games against ND. Only Clemson is a favorite.
There are 2 games against Georgia, but GT and UVa will be heavy dogs.
UNC will also be a heavy against Auburn.
VT will be a dog against Penn State.
Toss ups include Mississippi State against NC State, Miami and Michigan State, FSU and Florida, Louisville vs. UK, and BC vs. Kansas.
The way I see it Clemson over SC, FSU over West Virginia, and Syracuse over Rutgers are the other three games where the ACC school will be favored.

That's 9 heavy dogs
5 Toss ups
4 Favorites

On top of that UNC is playing UCF, Wake Forest is playing App, and Florida is playing Boise State - losable G-5 games.

PSU and Georgia are the number three programs in the B10 and SEC. Only Clemson is at their level. Clemson is the only program at and above ND's level. Florida is over-rated but more than a match for currently ill Seminoles.

Playing a season opening top 3-4 SEC program in Atlanta is stupid for any school in the ACC not named Clemson, Florida State, and perhaps VT. Now if that game were against Tennessee, Ky, Vandy, SC, Ole Miss, MSU, Mizzou, or Arkansas that would be one thing.

(01-02-2020 04:47 PM)Statefan Wrote:  

(01-02-2020 01:29 PM)ken d Wrote:  As a man without a team, I really can't play the game as it's posed in the OP. If I were a betting man though, I would say that if we got answers from all 14 schools we would probably be looking at a lot more predicted total wins than 56. We all tend to be over-optimistic at this time of year.

What really matters is how many wins will we get OOC - especially against P5 opponents. In 2019 I think the ACC over-scheduled a bit, with 10 losses coming to teams that had 10 or more wins in the regular season. Haven't had a chance yet to look at next year's OOC slate, but it can't be harder than that.

Next year the ACC has 6 games against ND. Only Clemson is a favorite.
There are 2 games against Georgia, but GT and UVa will be heavy dogs.
UNC will also be a heavy against Auburn.
VT will be a dog against Penn State.
Toss ups include Mississippi State against NC State, Miami and Michigan State, FSU and Florida, Louisville vs. UK, and BC vs. Kansas.
The way I see it Clemson over SC, FSU over West Virginia, and Syracuse over Rutgers are the other three games where the ACC school will be favored.

That's 9 heavy dogs
5 Toss ups
4 Favorites

On top of that UNC is playing UCF, Wake Forest is playing App, and Florida is playing Boise State - losable G-5 games.

PSU and Georgia are the number three programs in the B10 and SEC. Only Clemson is at their level. Clemson is the only program at and above ND's level. Florida is over-rated but more than a match for currently ill Seminoles.

Playing a season opening top 3-4 SEC program in Atlanta is stupid for any school in the ACC not named Clemson, Florida State, and perhaps VT. Now if that game were against Tennessee, Ky, Vandy, SC, Ole Miss, MSU, Mizzou, or Arkansas that would be one thing.

Another year of over-scheduling.
Will they ever learn?

(01-02-2020 04:55 PM)Hokie Mark Wrote:  

(01-02-2020 04:47 PM)Statefan Wrote:  

(01-02-2020 01:29 PM)ken d Wrote:  As a man without a team, I really can't play the game as it's posed in the OP. If I were a betting man though, I would say that if we got answers from all 14 schools we would probably be looking at a lot more predicted total wins than 56. We all tend to be over-optimistic at this time of year.

What really matters is how many wins will we get OOC - especially against P5 opponents. In 2019 I think the ACC over-scheduled a bit, with 10 losses coming to teams that had 10 or more wins in the regular season. Haven't had a chance yet to look at next year's OOC slate, but it can't be harder than that.

Next year the ACC has 6 games against ND. Only Clemson is a favorite.
There are 2 games against Georgia, but GT and UVa will be heavy dogs.
UNC will also be a heavy against Auburn.
VT will be a dog against Penn State.
Toss ups include Mississippi State against NC State, Miami and Michigan State, FSU and Florida, Louisville vs. UK, and BC vs. Kansas.
The way I see it Clemson over SC, FSU over West Virginia, and Syracuse over Rutgers are the other three games where the ACC school will be favored.

That's 9 heavy dogs
5 Toss ups
4 Favorites

On top of that UNC is playing UCF, Wake Forest is playing App, and Florida is playing Boise State - losable G-5 games.

PSU and Georgia are the number three programs in the B10 and SEC. Only Clemson is at their level. Clemson is the only program at and above ND's level. Florida is over-rated but more than a match for currently ill Seminoles.

Playing a season opening top 3-4 SEC program in Atlanta is stupid for any school in the ACC not named Clemson, Florida State, and perhaps VT. Now if that game were against Tennessee, Ky, Vandy, SC, Ole Miss, MSU, Mizzou, or Arkansas that would be one thing.

Another year of over-scheduling.
Will they ever learn?

Indiana, Northwestern, Minnesota, Illinois, Washington State, Arizona State, and Mizzou do not have an OOC P-5 scheduled.

It’s kinda tradition for FSU to over schedule. When Jimbo took over he wanted a cupcake OOC schedule besides the annual vs UF. FSU did not let him accept in 2015.

(01-02-2020 05:31 PM)Statefan Wrote:  Indiana, Northwestern, Minnesota, Illinois, Washington State, Arizona State, and Mizzou do not have an OOC P-5 scheduled.

Those are EXACTLY the kind of OOC opponents most ACC teams should be scheduling!

Probably 6-6 (4-4) again. I like what Norvell's done but he can't fix the offensive line in nine months.