And just to make sure there is NO doubt, once again here is the lad's definition of Trump's base:

Quote:His base though, they’re the ones that wear the “F*** Your Feelings” shirts, cheer him on when he makes fun of a disable reporter, and so on. And they’re his base because they’re unable to look at the problematic things he does and actually say they’re problematic.

So if one is 'Trump's base' -- one must be by all intents and purposes, defined as ignorant, but in a verbose way. Very progressive there, lad. But kudos for being open about it.

(12-15-2019 10:39 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  And just to make sure there is NO doubt, once again here is the lad's definition of Trump's base:

Quote:His base though, they’re the ones that wear the “F*** Your Feelings” shirts, cheer him on when he makes fun of a disable reporter, and so on. And they’re his base because they’re unable to look at the problematic things he does and actually say they’re problematic.

So if one is 'Trump's base' -- one must be by all intents and purposes, defined as ignorant, but in a verbose way. Very progressive there, lad. But kudos for being open about it.

Do you disagree that those types of people exist?

(12-15-2019 10:54 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 10:39 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  And just to make sure there is NO doubt, once again here is the lad's definition of Trump's base:

Quote:His base though, they’re the ones that wear the “F*** Your Feelings” shirts, cheer him on when he makes fun of a disable reporter, and so on. And they’re his base because they’re unable to look at the problematic things he does and actually say they’re problematic.

So if one is 'Trump's base' -- one must be by all intents and purposes, defined as ignorant, but in a verbose way. Very progressive there, lad. But kudos for being open about it.

Do you disagree that those types of people exist?

I have said that Trump’s base is working men and small businessmen. I am sure some among those own offensive tee shirts, just as I am sure some of the Socialist supporters of Sanders/Warren own black bandanas. But I would never characterize their base as Antifa rioters.

For that matter, are you sure that 100% of Democrats do not own shirts saying “Impeach the motherfu##er”, quoting Rep Tlaib?

“Base” is a broad and general term, and when Fountains used it I wanted to know what he meant. I think I know, but I wanted to hear it from him. Still waiting.

Then you chimed in, and here we are.

I gave a short and basic thumbnail sketch of the people I think make up various bases. So I am the only one to do so. Anybody can do so if they wish.

I get really tired of the stereotypes thrust upon me. I will continue to challenge them.

I now consider myself part of Trump’s base. I support most of the policies being pushed by him, and want to see them continued. That doesn’t require me to cheer when he gets into a cat fight with a kid. Did you cheer everything Obama ever did? So when you and Founty talk about the base in disparaging terms, you are talking about me. Keep that in mind. It is personal now. And I do NOT consider myself to be part of a mob cheering bad behavior.

(12-15-2019 11:31 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 10:54 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 10:39 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  And just to make sure there is NO doubt, once again here is the lad's definition of Trump's base:

Quote:His base though, they’re the ones that wear the “F*** Your Feelings” shirts, cheer him on when he makes fun of a disable reporter, and so on. And they’re his base because they’re unable to look at the problematic things he does and actually say they’re problematic.

So if one is 'Trump's base' -- one must be by all intents and purposes, defined as ignorant, but in a verbose way. Very progressive there, lad. But kudos for being open about it.

Do you disagree that those types of people exist?

I have said that Trump’s base is working men and small businessmen. I am sure some among those own offensive tee shirts, just as I am sure some of the Socialist supporters of Sanders/Warren own black bandanas. But I would never characterize their base as Antifa rioters.

For that matter, are you sure that 100% of Democrats do not own shirts saying “Impeach the motherfu##er”, quoting Rep Tlaib?

“Base” is a broad and general term, and when Fountains used it I wanted to know what he meant. I think I know, but I wanted to hear it from him. Still waiting.

Then you chimed in, and here we are.

I gave a short and basic thumbnail sketch of the people I think make up various bases. So I am the only one to do so. Anybody can do so if they wish.

I get really tired of the stereotypes thrust upon me. I will continue to challenge them.

I now consider myself part of Trump’s base. I support most of the policies being pushed by him, and want to see them continued. That doesn’t require me to cheer when he gets into a cat fight with a kid. Did you cheer everything Obama ever did? So when you and Founty talk about the base in disparaging terms, you are talking about me. Keep that in mind. It is personal now. And I do NOT consider myself to be part of a mob cheering bad behavior.

Yeah, but I’m not talking about you. So it’s your choice to take offense and make it personal.

(12-15-2019 11:55 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 11:31 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 10:54 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 10:39 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  And just to make sure there is NO doubt, once again here is the lad's definition of Trump's base:

Quote:His base though, they’re the ones that wear the “F*** Your Feelings” shirts, cheer him on when he makes fun of a disable reporter, and so on. And they’re his base because they’re unable to look at the problematic things he does and actually say they’re problematic.

So if one is 'Trump's base' -- one must be by all intents and purposes, defined as ignorant, but in a verbose way. Very progressive there, lad. But kudos for being open about it.

Do you disagree that those types of people exist?

I have said that Trump’s base is working men and small businessmen. I am sure some among those own offensive tee shirts, just as I am sure some of the Socialist supporters of Sanders/Warren own black bandanas. But I would never characterize their base as Antifa rioters.

For that matter, are you sure that 100% of Democrats do not own shirts saying “Impeach the motherfu##er”, quoting Rep Tlaib?

“Base” is a broad and general term, and when Fountains used it I wanted to know what he meant. I think I know, but I wanted to hear it from him. Still waiting.

Then you chimed in, and here we are.

I gave a short and basic thumbnail sketch of the people I think make up various bases. So I am the only one to do so. Anybody can do so if they wish.

I get really tired of the stereotypes thrust upon me. I will continue to challenge them.

I now consider myself part of Trump’s base. I support most of the policies being pushed by him, and want to see them continued. That doesn’t require me to cheer when he gets into a cat fight with a kid. Did you cheer everything Obama ever did? So when you and Founty talk about the base in disparaging terms, you are talking about me. Keep that in mind. It is personal now. And I do NOT consider myself to be part of a mob cheering bad behavior.

Yeah, but I’m not talking about you. So it’s your choice to take offense and make it personal.

Mirrors your response when Hillary gave her deplorables speech. (But if you are not a deplorable, why should you assume she is talking about you?)

I guess I could return the favor and say that if I say Democrats are a bunch of self-satisfied, evil, anti democracy, lying, cheating totalitarian activists, that I am not talking about you and if you take offense it is your choice.

(12-15-2019 12:07 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 11:55 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 11:31 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 10:54 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 10:39 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  And just to make sure there is NO doubt, once again here is the lad's definition of Trump's base:


So if one is 'Trump's base' -- one must be by all intents and purposes, defined as ignorant, but in a verbose way. Very progressive there, lad. But kudos for being open about it.

Do you disagree that those types of people exist?

I have said that Trump’s base is working men and small businessmen. I am sure some among those own offensive tee shirts, just as I am sure some of the Socialist supporters of Sanders/Warren own black bandanas. But I would never characterize their base as Antifa rioters.

For that matter, are you sure that 100% of Democrats do not own shirts saying “Impeach the motherfu##er”, quoting Rep Tlaib?

“Base” is a broad and general term, and when Fountains used it I wanted to know what he meant. I think I know, but I wanted to hear it from him. Still waiting.

Then you chimed in, and here we are.

I gave a short and basic thumbnail sketch of the people I think make up various bases. So I am the only one to do so. Anybody can do so if they wish.

I get really tired of the stereotypes thrust upon me. I will continue to challenge them.

I now consider myself part of Trump’s base. I support most of the policies being pushed by him, and want to see them continued. That doesn’t require me to cheer when he gets into a cat fight with a kid. Did you cheer everything Obama ever did? So when you and Founty talk about the base in disparaging terms, you are talking about me. Keep that in mind. It is personal now. And I do NOT consider myself to be part of a mob cheering bad behavior.

Yeah, but I’m not talking about you. So it’s your choice to take offense and make it personal.

Mirrors your response when Hillary gave her deplorables speech. (But if you are not a deplorable, why should you assume she is talking about you?)

I guess I could return the favor and say that if I say Democrats are a bunch of self-satisfied, evil, anti democracy, lying, cheating totalitarian activists, that I am not talking about you and if you take offense it is your choice.

Impressive.

(12-15-2019 01:11 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 12:07 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 11:55 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 11:31 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 10:54 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Do you disagree that those types of people exist?

I have said that Trump’s base is working men and small businessmen. I am sure some among those own offensive tee shirts, just as I am sure some of the Socialist supporters of Sanders/Warren own black bandanas. But I would never characterize their base as Antifa rioters.

For that matter, are you sure that 100% of Democrats do not own shirts saying “Impeach the motherfu##er”, quoting Rep Tlaib?

“Base” is a broad and general term, and when Fountains used it I wanted to know what he meant. I think I know, but I wanted to hear it from him. Still waiting.

Then you chimed in, and here we are.

I gave a short and basic thumbnail sketch of the people I think make up various bases. So I am the only one to do so. Anybody can do so if they wish.

I get really tired of the stereotypes thrust upon me. I will continue to challenge them.

I now consider myself part of Trump’s base. I support most of the policies being pushed by him, and want to see them continued. That doesn’t require me to cheer when he gets into a cat fight with a kid. Did you cheer everything Obama ever did? So when you and Founty talk about the base in disparaging terms, you are talking about me. Keep that in mind. It is personal now. And I do NOT consider myself to be part of a mob cheering bad behavior.

Yeah, but I’m not talking about you. So it’s your choice to take offense and make it personal.

Mirrors your response when Hillary gave her deplorables speech. (But if you are not a deplorable, why should you assume she is talking about you?)

I guess I could return the favor and say that if I say Democrats are a bunch of self-satisfied, evil, anti democracy, lying, cheating totalitarian activists, that I am not talking about you and if you take offense it is your choice.

Impressive.

Democrats are amoral people who think the end justifies the means.

(12-15-2019 10:54 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 10:39 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  And just to make sure there is NO doubt, once again here is the lad's definition of Trump's base:

Quote:His base though, they’re the ones that wear the “F*** Your Feelings” shirts, cheer him on when he makes fun of a disable reporter, and so on. And they’re his base because they’re unable to look at the problematic things he does and actually say they’re problematic.

So if one is 'Trump's base' -- one must be by all intents and purposes, defined as ignorant, but in a verbose way. Very progressive there, lad. But kudos for being open about it.

Do you disagree that those types of people exist?

Kind of a stupid answer....

Lets first go over your past statement. You say "His base[,] ... they're the [people] that wear the “F*** Your Feelings” shirts, cheer him on when he makes fun of a disable reporter, and so on."

You were quite unequivocal then, and perhaps now, that these people are his base.

Do I agree that these people 'exist' (your current position)? No doubt.

Are some of these people in his base? Undoubtedly.

Is his total base these people? Not in the slightest. You are either daft that you dont see that construction that you put out there, or. if not a stupid as **** mistake and you actually think that, ignorant as hell in the manner that you slander trump's base as whole with that statement.

So the stupid answer to your stupid question is that yes, these people exist. Lad world cha cha cha getting warmed up here, or somefink.

------------------------------

To be blunt, you out Hillaryed Hillary herself with that first comment. You pretty much slandered his entire base as having those characteristics; you are either okay with that (which might make you as ignorant as those you complain about there), or simply cannot read what your first statement says.

And when OO used the exact same broad smear back on you as an example of what your first statement actually says, you kind of did the smarmy style of comment we have all come to love from you. Brilliant move there lad.

(12-15-2019 02:56 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 10:54 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 10:39 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  And just to make sure there is NO doubt, once again here is the lad's definition of Trump's base:

Quote:His base though, they’re the ones that wear the “F*** Your Feelings” shirts, cheer him on when he makes fun of a disable reporter, and so on. And they’re his base because they’re unable to look at the problematic things he does and actually say they’re problematic.

So if one is 'Trump's base' -- one must be by all intents and purposes, defined as ignorant, but in a verbose way. Very progressive there, lad. But kudos for being open about it.

Do you disagree that those types of people exist?

Kind of a stupid answer....

Lets first go over your past statement. You say "His base[,] ... they're the [people] that wear the “F*** Your Feelings” shirts, cheer him on when he makes fun of a disable reporter, and so on."

You were quite unequivocal then, and perhaps now, that these people are his base.

Do I agree that these people 'exist' (your current position)? No doubt.

Are some of these people in his base? Undoubtedly.

Is his total base these people? Not in the slightest. You are either daft that you dont see that construction that you put out there, or. if not a stupid as **** mistake and you actually think that, ignorant as hell in the manner that you slander trump's base as whole with that statement.

So the stupid answer to your stupid question is that yes, these people exist. Lad world cha cha cha getting warmed up here, or somefink.

------------------------------

To be blunt, you out Hillaryed Hillary herself with that first comment. You pretty much slandered his entire base as having those characteristics; you are either okay with that (which might make you as ignorant as those you complain about there), or simply cannot read what your first statement says.

And when OO used the exact same broad smear back on you as an example of what your first statement actually says, you kind of did the smarmy style of comment we have all come to love from you. Brilliant move there lad.

It just comes down to how broad the term “base” is to each of us. I obviously view his base as a smaller group of people than you or OO do.

OO’s response went for an obviously larger pool of people by stating Democrats, who come in all different varieties. The equivalent would have been me stating that Republicans are X, Y, and Z. Many Republicans are not part of Trump’s base.

(12-15-2019 01:30 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 01:11 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 12:07 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 11:55 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 11:31 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  I have said that Trump’s base is working men and small businessmen. I am sure some among those own offensive tee shirts, just as I am sure some of the Socialist supporters of Sanders/Warren own black bandanas. But I would never characterize their base as Antifa rioters.

For that matter, are you sure that 100% of Democrats do not own shirts saying “Impeach the motherfu##er”, quoting Rep Tlaib?

“Base” is a broad and general term, and when Fountains used it I wanted to know what he meant. I think I know, but I wanted to hear it from him. Still waiting.

Then you chimed in, and here we are.

I gave a short and basic thumbnail sketch of the people I think make up various bases. So I am the only one to do so. Anybody can do so if they wish.

I get really tired of the stereotypes thrust upon me. I will continue to challenge them.

I now consider myself part of Trump’s base. I support most of the policies being pushed by him, and want to see them continued. That doesn’t require me to cheer when he gets into a cat fight with a kid. Did you cheer everything Obama ever did? So when you and Founty talk about the base in disparaging terms, you are talking about me. Keep that in mind. It is personal now. And I do NOT consider myself to be part of a mob cheering bad behavior.

Yeah, but I’m not talking about you. So it’s your choice to take offense and make it personal.

Mirrors your response when Hillary gave her deplorables speech. (But if you are not a deplorable, why should you assume she is talking about you?)

I guess I could return the favor and say that if I say Democrats are a bunch of self-satisfied, evil, anti democracy, lying, cheating totalitarian activists, that I am not talking about you and if you take offense it is your choice.

Impressive.

Democrats are amoral people who think the end justifies the means.

Cool.

(12-15-2019 03:05 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 02:56 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 10:54 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 10:39 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  And just to make sure there is NO doubt, once again here is the lad's definition of Trump's base:

Quote:His base though, they’re the ones that wear the “F*** Your Feelings” shirts, cheer him on when he makes fun of a disable reporter, and so on. And they’re his base because they’re unable to look at the problematic things he does and actually say they’re problematic.

So if one is 'Trump's base' -- one must be by all intents and purposes, defined as ignorant, but in a verbose way. Very progressive there, lad. But kudos for being open about it.

Do you disagree that those types of people exist?

Kind of a stupid answer....

Lets first go over your past statement. You say "His base[,] ... they're the [people] that wear the “F*** Your Feelings” shirts, cheer him on when he makes fun of a disable reporter, and so on."

You were quite unequivocal then, and perhaps now, that these people are his base.

Do I agree that these people 'exist' (your current position)? No doubt.

Are some of these people in his base? Undoubtedly.

Is his total base these people? Not in the slightest. You are either daft that you dont see that construction that you put out there, or. if not a stupid as **** mistake and you actually think that, ignorant as hell in the manner that you slander trump's base as whole with that statement.

So the stupid answer to your stupid question is that yes, these people exist. Lad world cha cha cha getting warmed up here, or somefink.

------------------------------

To be blunt, you out Hillaryed Hillary herself with that first comment. You pretty much slandered his entire base as having those characteristics; you are either okay with that (which might make you as ignorant as those you complain about there), or simply cannot read what your first statement says.

And when OO used the exact same broad smear back on you as an example of what your first statement actually says, you kind of did the smarmy style of comment we have all come to love from you. Brilliant move there lad.

It just comes down to how broad the term “base” is to each of us. I obviously view his base as a smaller group of people than you or OO do.

OO’s response went for an obviously larger pool of people by stating Democrats, who come in all different varieties. The equivalent would have been me stating that Republicans are X, Y, and Z. Many Republicans are not part of Trump’s base.

No, Lad is right - my statement was much too broad.

So I will correct it here:

Half of the people in the Democratic base are amoral ******** who think any actions, legal or not, that furthers the Democratic party is OK. Lying, cheating, whatever.

If you are not in that half of the Democratic base, please ignore and don't get upset - I am not talking about you.

And, Lad, I still don't know what you define as his "base". Can you give me a quick two or three sentence declaration instead of sending me on a treasure hunt?

(12-15-2019 03:05 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 02:56 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 10:54 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 10:39 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  And just to make sure there is NO doubt, once again here is the lad's definition of Trump's base:

Quote:His base though, they’re the ones that wear the “F*** Your Feelings” shirts, cheer him on when he makes fun of a disable reporter, and so on. And they’re his base because they’re unable to look at the problematic things he does and actually say they’re problematic.

So if one is 'Trump's base' -- one must be by all intents and purposes, defined as ignorant, but in a verbose way. Very progressive there, lad. But kudos for being open about it.

Do you disagree that those types of people exist?

Kind of a stupid answer....

Lets first go over your past statement. You say "His base[,] ... they're the [people] that wear the “F*** Your Feelings” shirts, cheer him on when he makes fun of a disable reporter, and so on."

You were quite unequivocal then, and perhaps now, that these people are his base.

Do I agree that these people 'exist' (your current position)? No doubt.

Are some of these people in his base? Undoubtedly.

Is his total base these people? Not in the slightest. You are either daft that you dont see that construction that you put out there, or. if not a stupid as **** mistake and you actually think that, ignorant as hell in the manner that you slander trump's base as whole with that statement.

So the stupid answer to your stupid question is that yes, these people exist. Lad world cha cha cha getting warmed up here, or somefink.

------------------------------

To be blunt, you out Hillaryed Hillary herself with that first comment. You pretty much slandered his entire base as having those characteristics; you are either okay with that (which might make you as ignorant as those you complain about there), or simply cannot read what your first statement says.

And when OO used the exact same broad smear back on you as an example of what your first statement actually says, you kind of did the smarmy style of comment we have all come to love from you. Brilliant move there lad.

It just comes down to how broad the term “base” is to each of us. I obviously view his base as a smaller group of people than you or OO do.

OO’s response went for an obviously larger pool of people by stating Democrats, who come in all different varieties. The equivalent would have been me stating that Republicans are X, Y, and Z. Many Republicans are not part of Trump’s base.

So you deliberately self-define a term that in the real world encompasses any supporter to a group defined (by you) in terms of a slanderous, caricature.

Pretty disingenuous there lad. Seems pretty fing ignorant there of you there as well lad.

One a little more refined might notice, when pointed out, your global characterization has a true ring of broadening that makes it fundamentally false; such as when OO pointed out his broadening example to you.

But, I guess you are too vested in the 'never retreat' to actually retreat from a position which is farcically and demonstrably false.

You resort to the Bill Clinton crap verbal parse; which is again also highly disingenuous.

One smart way to disengage would be to state: Yeah my first statement was pretty much stupidly overbroad, but those people sure seem pop up a lot there. But you simply redefine the normal idea of 'base' to one that fits your preconception. As you are so fond of saying: Brilliant.

In this manner you go down the 'double down the lad is *never* wrong on anything cha cha cha', which is amusing in its own right.

I would hope that your first statement so many months ago isnt an indication that you are as ignorant as it is. Maybe, maybe not. I have zero problem with you stating it was an overbraod and stupid characterization made in the heat of the moment -- no harm no foul and wouldnt be commented on by me.

You have had ample opportunity to demonstrate this (including now), but funnily you havent taken to do this.

Instead to go down a really stupid 'depends on what the meaning of the word is is' style crap made famous by Bill Clinton when he got caught with his pants down in a perjurious statement. Good grief. Lolz as well, but good grief.....

(12-15-2019 03:32 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 03:05 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 02:56 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 10:54 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 10:39 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  And just to make sure there is NO doubt, once again here is the lad's definition of Trump's base:


So if one is 'Trump's base' -- one must be by all intents and purposes, defined as ignorant, but in a verbose way. Very progressive there, lad. But kudos for being open about it.

Do you disagree that those types of people exist?

Kind of a stupid answer....

Lets first go over your past statement. You say "His base[,] ... they're the [people] that wear the “F*** Your Feelings” shirts, cheer him on when he makes fun of a disable reporter, and so on."

You were quite unequivocal then, and perhaps now, that these people are his base.

Do I agree that these people 'exist' (your current position)? No doubt.

Are some of these people in his base? Undoubtedly.

Is his total base these people? Not in the slightest. You are either daft that you dont see that construction that you put out there, or. if not a stupid as **** mistake and you actually think that, ignorant as hell in the manner that you slander trump's base as whole with that statement.

So the stupid answer to your stupid question is that yes, these people exist. Lad world cha cha cha getting warmed up here, or somefink.

------------------------------

To be blunt, you out Hillaryed Hillary herself with that first comment. You pretty much slandered his entire base as having those characteristics; you are either okay with that (which might make you as ignorant as those you complain about there), or simply cannot read what your first statement says.

And when OO used the exact same broad smear back on you as an example of what your first statement actually says, you kind of did the smarmy style of comment we have all come to love from you. Brilliant move there lad.

It just comes down to how broad the term “base” is to each of us. I obviously view his base as a smaller group of people than you or OO do.

OO’s response went for an obviously larger pool of people by stating Democrats, who come in all different varieties. The equivalent would have been me stating that Republicans are X, Y, and Z. Many Republicans are not part of Trump’s base.

No, Lad is right - my statement was much too broad.

So I will correct it here:

Half of the people in the Democratic base are amoral ******** who think any actions, legal or not, that furthers the Democratic party is OK. Lying, cheating, whatever.

If you are not in that half of the Democratic base, please ignore and don't get upset - I am not talking about you.

And, Lad, I still don't know what you define as his "base". Can you give me a quick two or three sentence declaration instead of sending me on a treasure hunt?

Thats no fun -- I want to see more of his defense of his stupidly broad statement.

The scary thing is that if he truly believes that previous statement, he is probably as ignorant as those whom he lumps into that base. Which is a whole world of other fun and games, mind you.

I dont think he is that ignorant; just lad doing the 'digging in' that he does so well. I hope.

(12-15-2019 03:56 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 03:32 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 03:05 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 02:56 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 10:54 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Do you disagree that those types of people exist?

Kind of a stupid answer....

Lets first go over your past statement. You say "His base[,] ... they're the [people] that wear the “F*** Your Feelings” shirts, cheer him on when he makes fun of a disable reporter, and so on."

You were quite unequivocal then, and perhaps now, that these people are his base.

Do I agree that these people 'exist' (your current position)? No doubt.

Are some of these people in his base? Undoubtedly.

Is his total base these people? Not in the slightest. You are either daft that you dont see that construction that you put out there, or. if not a stupid as **** mistake and you actually think that, ignorant as hell in the manner that you slander trump's base as whole with that statement.

So the stupid answer to your stupid question is that yes, these people exist. Lad world cha cha cha getting warmed up here, or somefink.

------------------------------

To be blunt, you out Hillaryed Hillary herself with that first comment. You pretty much slandered his entire base as having those characteristics; you are either okay with that (which might make you as ignorant as those you complain about there), or simply cannot read what your first statement says.

And when OO used the exact same broad smear back on you as an example of what your first statement actually says, you kind of did the smarmy style of comment we have all come to love from you. Brilliant move there lad.

It just comes down to how broad the term “base” is to each of us. I obviously view his base as a smaller group of people than you or OO do.

OO’s response went for an obviously larger pool of people by stating Democrats, who come in all different varieties. The equivalent would have been me stating that Republicans are X, Y, and Z. Many Republicans are not part of Trump’s base.

No, Lad is right - my statement was much too broad.

So I will correct it here:

Half of the people in the Democratic base are amoral ******** who think any actions, legal or not, that furthers the Democratic party is OK. Lying, cheating, whatever.

If you are not in that half of the Democratic base, please ignore and don't get upset - I am not talking about you.

And, Lad, I still don't know what you define as his "base". Can you give me a quick two or three sentence declaration instead of sending me on a treasure hunt?

Thats no fun -- I want to see more of his defense of his stupidly broad statement.

The scary thing is that if he truly believes that previous statement, he is probably as ignorant as those whom he lumps into that base. Which is a whole world of other fun and games, mind you.

I dont think he is that ignorant; just lad doing the 'digging in' that he does so well. I hope.

where did Fountains go? maybe he had a a barbecue to go to.

I like Fountains - he brings some diversity to this place.

I wanted to ask him - what was the point of Schiff going on This Week? A last hurrah, before his career is over?

Also on This Week, Nadler made the point that Trump had to be impeached before he did it again. I took that to mean Trump had to be impeached before he could investigate the Bidens. There seems to be a mighty fear of what an investigation would reveal. Why are the Dems so afraid of an investigation?

Some lefties here have made fun of me for my fears/expectations of what would happen to the economy if various Dems got elected.

Putting my money where my mouth is, I put up a large tract of land. Right now it is attractive to developers. After the election, it may not be.

Talking yesterday with a realtor who was bringing an offer, he agrees with my thinking 100%. The market will fall with the election of any Democrat, and much more so if it is Warren or Sanders.

So if you have assets, now may be the time to cash them in. But you could hedge your bets by just hoping for a Dem win, and then to buy cheap assets.

Dershowitz

"we don’t know how the court is going to come out, but they made it clear that is a viable issue. So that charge, that ground of impeachment should be immediately removed by the House and not sent to the Senate. There is nothing to it anymore ..."

But of course, the half of Democrats who are immoral won't do that...and they are in charge of the show.

The count of 'obstruction of Congress' is well off the table in light of the existence of executive privilege, imo.

If a final court says 'not privileged', and an executive refuses to deliver, the count should be considered as valid.

But in today's clown atmosphere, I guess the attitude is why get bogged down in the reality of things, or in the details.

(12-15-2019 04:25 PM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  where did Fountains go? maybe he had a a barbecue to go to.

Somewhat like watching a cat when confronted with the prospect of meeting a full bathtub.

His 'runthehellaway' post of your comment as a response was priceless in that regard. Actually, very much like a cat facing a bathtub now that I think about it more.....

(12-15-2019 03:49 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 03:05 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 02:56 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 10:54 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(12-15-2019 10:39 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  And just to make sure there is NO doubt, once again here is the lad's definition of Trump's base:


So if one is 'Trump's base' -- one must be by all intents and purposes, defined as ignorant, but in a verbose way. Very progressive there, lad. But kudos for being open about it.

Do you disagree that those types of people exist?

Kind of a stupid answer....

Lets first go over your past statement. You say "His base[,] ... they're the [people] that wear the “F*** Your Feelings” shirts, cheer him on when he makes fun of a disable reporter, and so on."

You were quite unequivocal then, and perhaps now, that these people are his base.

Do I agree that these people 'exist' (your current position)? No doubt.

Are some of these people in his base? Undoubtedly.

Is his total base these people? Not in the slightest. You are either daft that you dont see that construction that you put out there, or. if not a stupid as **** mistake and you actually think that, ignorant as hell in the manner that you slander trump's base as whole with that statement.

So the stupid answer to your stupid question is that yes, these people exist. Lad world cha cha cha getting warmed up here, or somefink.

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To be blunt, you out Hillaryed Hillary herself with that first comment. You pretty much slandered his entire base as having those characteristics; you are either okay with that (which might make you as ignorant as those you complain about there), or simply cannot read what your first statement says.

And when OO used the exact same broad smear back on you as an example of what your first statement actually says, you kind of did the smarmy style of comment we have all come to love from you. Brilliant move there lad.

It just comes down to how broad the term “base” is to each of us. I obviously view his base as a smaller group of people than you or OO do.

OO’s response went for an obviously larger pool of people by stating Democrats, who come in all different varieties. The equivalent would have been me stating that Republicans are X, Y, and Z. Many Republicans are not part of Trump’s base.

So you deliberately self-define a term that in the real world encompasses any supporter to a group defined (by you) in terms of a slanderous, caricature.

Pretty disingenuous there lad. Seems pretty fing ignorant there of you there as well lad.

One a little more refined might notice, when pointed out, your global characterization has a true ring of broadening that makes it fundamentally false; such as when OO pointed out his broadening example to you.

But, I guess you are too vested in the 'never retreat' to actually retreat from a position which is farcically and demonstrably false.

You resort to the Bill Clinton crap verbal parse; which is again also highly disingenuous.

One smart way to disengage would be to state: Yeah my first statement was pretty much stupidly overbroad, but those people sure seem pop up a lot there. But you simply redefine the normal idea of 'base' to one that fits your preconception. As you are so fond of saying: Brilliant.

In this manner you go down the 'double down the lad is *never* wrong on anything cha cha cha', which is amusing in its own right.

I would hope that your first statement so many months ago isnt an indication that you are as ignorant as it is. Maybe, maybe not. I have zero problem with you stating it was an overbraod and stupid characterization made in the heat of the moment -- no harm no foul and wouldnt be commented on by me.

You have had ample opportunity to demonstrate this (including now), but funnily you havent taken to do this.

Instead to go down a really stupid 'depends on what the meaning of the word is is' style crap made famous by Bill Clinton when he got caught with his pants down in a perjurious statement. Good grief. Lolz as well, but good grief.....

Would it make you feel better if I said they were the most loyal part of his base?

You wasted how much time writing a post that boils down to: I don’t like your definition, and I’m always right, so you must be wrong. Congrats!

Lad -- I am pointing out that *you* simply redefined 'base' to whatever small group *you*, in your oh so cute way, wish and want it to be.

And when called out on that redefinition proceed down some garbage semantic patented lad dance.

Cry some more, lad.

And the funny thing, lad, is that *your* redefinition and (continued die hard last man) defense of it is a defense of a concept that is, on its surface and easily understood to be, fairly abjectly as ignorant (if taken at your face value) as that of the people that you complain about.

Yes, you saying that 'his most loyal' would be less fing ignorant; debatable -- but absolutely less ignorant than what you are maddy poo abut being called out on.

Absolutely fing rich!

And in light of OOs example of the issue to you, in which you could have backed down and said 'let me rephrase', simply told him 'cute' -- and then *again* doubled down on with yet *another* crapola redefinition.

Doubly rich!

I think you need some more castanets in todays version of your cha cha cha.....