(11-28-2019 10:45 AM)Nugget49er Wrote:  USM and Marshall are not going to the Sun Belt. But if they did, C-USA is not going to backfill their spots. But if we did, you can bet the best teams in the Sun Belt would be looking to come to C-USA. Don't believe it? Well look at history--apparently that is what matters.

IMHO the only school from the SBC right now that would be interested in joining C-USA is Texas State for obvious reasons. I think that would still be true if some schools left the conference.

(11-28-2019 10:34 AM)NinerAlum18 Wrote:  

(11-27-2019 11:20 PM)MadEagle Wrote:  

(11-27-2019 11:15 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(11-27-2019 11:13 PM)MadEagle Wrote:  

(11-27-2019 10:46 PM)NinerAlum18 Wrote:  I'd be unhappy too if I was getting beaten by schools that didn't have football 15 years ago too

That's exactly what we're unhappy about. Not being relevant to college football.

I fixed that for you.

My point exactly your not relevant to college football

Southern Miss hasn't really been relevant since Fedora left. Not really any other way to put it. Would moving to the Sun Belt really make your relevant on a bigger stage? Or is it more about rivalries with teams like Louisiana and Troy?

USM has played Troy a total of 3 times, 2 in the last 2 FB seasons. Hell this USM is complaining about lack of FBS history, yet...

Troy 2004
USA 2012
Coastal Carolina 2017
Georgia Southern 2014
Georgia State 2013
APPY 2014
Texas State 2012

CC and USA would take a beating from this USM fan and a few others like him, for 2 or 3 years. They would be the reason USM is still losing. Only to pass USM on the field, year 4. One good thing, USM should be able to compete with ULM, in the budget department...

actually both school are similar.

Small budgets, dont have the funds to fire bad coaches and the most important part....

they both beat Bama

(11-28-2019 10:37 AM)ImfromClayton Wrote:  I think marshal and southern miss see how easy app has had it, and are tired of all these startups kicking their ass

App has had it pretty easy vs CUSA as well to be fair.

Easy to see how triggered the WKU fans become when USM talks about leaving.
Question is why?

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(11-28-2019 10:51 AM)Noodles Wrote:  We just hate the Judy show. Yes, we have sucked recently. That's hardly the point, though. The leadership of this conference seems purposely bad. That's the entire point.

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Best post of this woeful thread. 14 athletic directors/university presidents and 14 fan bases should demand better.

(11-28-2019 10:51 AM)Noodles Wrote:  We just hate the Judy show. Yes, we have sucked recently. That's hardly the point, though. The leadership of this conference seems purposely bad. That's the entire point.

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Recently is a couple to 3, maybe 4 years. But you seem to fail in getting the point....

The leadership can only work with what they have. If we are looking at this honestly it's school's like USM, Marshall, Rice and UAB that the rest of us are paying the price for. Those 3 schools along with those that left voted to tell espn to go pound sand.

Again If we are being honest our flagship school, the school that all fans want to watch their games. Well,they are not what they use to be...

Western vs Tech drew almost twice the eyes as Western vs USM. So how is this a leadership problem? As a fan, you can see more USM games from your livingroom than at anytime in the history of the program.

(11-28-2019 09:59 AM)panama Wrote:  

(11-27-2019 11:41 PM)OsageJ Wrote:  The Sun Belt has already surpassed CUSA so if we can get USM and Marshal y'all would be sunk. Markets....lol.

Were you an Enron exec? Lack of business knowledge seems familiar.

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Nothing to do with business. The football is a failure overall. Different polls have verified that.

(11-28-2019 11:05 AM)ESE84 Wrote:  

(11-28-2019 10:51 AM)Noodles Wrote:  We just hate the Judy show. Yes, we have sucked recently. That's hardly the point, though. The leadership of this conference seems purposely bad. That's the entire point.

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Best post of this woeful thread. 14 athletic directors/university presidents and 14 fan bases should demand better.

Someone named Judy not doing a good enough job? Color me shocked

Lol we aren’t going anywhere.

The only thing that I could see happening is CUSA getting poached in the future and the remaining schools breaking away and forming a new conference with some sun belt schools. Would USM or Marshall be in the equation? Who knows. But none of us are going anywhere anytime soon.

(11-28-2019 07:49 AM)MAN4UAB Wrote:  I think that it is unfortunate that some fans are blaming the conference for their teams lack of success or attendance. I think that the blame lies squarely on the athletic budget. If you want more, you need to spend more to get the facilities, coaches and amenities that attract the top athletes to your school.

Also a good post. It is weak to blame the conference for your problems until you are dominating the conference.

(11-28-2019 11:05 AM)ESE84 Wrote:  

(11-28-2019 10:51 AM)Noodles Wrote:  We just hate the Judy show. Yes, we have sucked recently. That's hardly the point, though. The leadership of this conference seems purposely bad. That's the entire point.

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Best post of this woeful thread. 14 athletic directors/university presidents and 14 fan bases should demand better.

Who do you think runs this conference? It's the 14 athletic directors/university presidents. You are correct the fan bases should demand better than 1-11, 2-10, 2-9 and under .500 basketball. If every school fixed those types of problems....

the leadership might have something to work with

(11-27-2019 11:19 PM)MadEagle Wrote:  

(11-27-2019 11:17 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  My granddad always said you are the company that you keep.

Lol your granddad is right. That's why we want out

But you think being the Sun Belt is somehow going to make you relevant.

Somebody hit the sauce a little too hard and a little too early this year.



You haven't been paying attention to what's really going on. Perhaps USM figure out a way to elevate itself again instead of (at least in some of your fan bases case - trying to bring others down).

And let's be clear. This version of the league didn't cause your problems. Your last year in the old C-USA you went 0-12. Your first year in the new construct you went 1-11. None of the current makeup nor schools in it had anything to do with that.

And you've been virtually irrelevant in basketball. Even a league that was multi-bid at one point USM made one NCAA Tournament in the first 18 years of 1.0.

(11-28-2019 08:35 AM)USM@FTL Wrote:  I'm for merging C-USA and the Sunbelt into one political/geographical/competitive unit with a 4-team playoff. After 5 years, divisions can split-off, without penalty, like the Big East did, if they want.

Ugh. How many C-USA versus Sunbelt match-ups are voluntarily happening out of conference? Rice has some history with Louisiana, and the Ragin Cajuns are on future Rice football schedules. Can we try some conference challenges before we dive into this?

(11-28-2019 11:13 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  Who do you think runs this conference? It's the 14 athletic directors/university presidents. You are correct the fan bases should demand better than 1-11, 2-10, 2-9 and under .500 basketball. If every school fixed those types of problems....

the leadership might have something to work with

Bless your heart.

(11-28-2019 10:55 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(11-28-2019 10:34 AM)NinerAlum18 Wrote:  

(11-27-2019 11:20 PM)MadEagle Wrote:  

(11-27-2019 11:15 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  

(11-27-2019 11:13 PM)MadEagle Wrote:  That's exactly what we're unhappy about. Not being relevant to college football.

I fixed that for you.

My point exactly your not relevant to college football

Southern Miss hasn't really been relevant since Fedora left. Not really any other way to put it. Would moving to the Sun Belt really make your relevant on a bigger stage? Or is it more about rivalries with teams like Louisiana and Troy?

USM has played Troy a total of 3 times, 2 in the last 2 FB seasons. Hell this USM is complaining about lack of FBS history, yet...

Troy 2004
USA 2012
Coastal Carolina 2017
Georgia Southern 2014
Georgia State 2013
APPY 2014
Texas State 2012

CC and USA would take a beating from this USM fan and a few others like him, for 2 or 3 years. They would be the reason USM is still losing. Only to pass USM on the field, year 4. One good thing, USM should be able to compete with ULM, in the budget department...

actually both school are similar.

Small budgets, dont have the funds to fire bad coaches and the most important part....

they both beat Bama

Troy was FBS in 2001, not 2004...

Let me just throw something else out there....

The last 2 schools to leave the SBC, was FAU, then Western. Now take a peak at the last 4 CUSA champions...3 out of 4 belong to those 2 schools and there's a very good chance it will be 4 out of 5. Then you look at next year and Both FAU and Western should be 2 of the top schools in preseason polls.

I would bet money today's USM would not be in the top 3 schools if the SBC presidents and ADs voted. Which they do.

(11-28-2019 11:23 AM)ESE84 Wrote:  

(11-28-2019 11:13 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  Who do you think runs this conference? It's the 14 athletic directors/university presidents. You are correct the fan bases should demand better than 1-11, 2-10, 2-9 and under .500 basketball. If every school fixed those types of problems....

the leadership might have something to work with

Bless your heart.

You do know it's starts right where I said? There's no one in leadership, outside of at Rice, that are responsible for producing those results. There's not a damn thing the leadership of this conference has done or will do stopping Rice from winning.

In the end...its the winning, that really matters. But hey keep blaming others for Rice's failures. If it makes you feel better.

(11-28-2019 11:30 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  Let me just throw something else out there....

The last 2 schools to leave the SBC, was FAU, then Western. Now take a peak at the last 4 CUSA champions...3 out of 4 belong to those 2 schools and there's a very good chance it will be 4 out of 5. Then you look at next year and Both FAU and Western should be 2 of the top schools in preseason polls.

I would bet money today's USM would not be in the top 3 schools if the SBC presidents and ADs voted. Which they do.

As far as SBC fans are concerned the only teams I hear interest in are USM, Marshall, and some for UAB. Whoever said every SBC team would leave for C-USA is nuts. Only team that MIGHT be interested is Texas St. Travel in SBC is better and we have been finishing as the 3rd G5 conference getting more money than C-USA and only having to to split it 10 ways is nice. We have gotten tons of ESPN national games this year and finished strong non-conference with quite a few P-5 wins.

Our schools suck, the divide between the haves and have nots is growing greater and greater with each passing day. It’s all a waste, we’ll never be relevant in football again. All g5 schools are based in irrelevance until something changes. A FEW schools may get the invitation to move up, 2 or 3 in the AAC & Boise/BYU. None of us, not now, not anymore. If we could’ve continued to ride our momentum from the good ol MAC days maybe we’d be relevant today like a Boise but sadly we did not. We are all in the midget leagues just make the best of it.

(11-28-2019 11:36 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  You do know it's starts right where I said? There's no one in leadership, outside of at Rice, that are responsible for producing those results. There's not a damn thing the leadership of this conference has done or will do stopping Rice from winning.

In the end...its the winning, that really matters. But hey keep blaming others for Rice's failures. If it makes you feel better.

You must have misunderstood my Commissioner post. We know it all starts with Rice. I will argue that Rice has made many positive changes. We are probably at the top of C-USA in collective women’s sports. The Rice AD does not have the same track record in men’s sports. He kept Bailiff far too long and tolerated the mediocrity before forcing change. It has taken Bloomgren longer than we would like to start winning, but 2020 looks good if we can hold onto DC Brian Smith.

The AD should not have been blindsided by the Rhoades return to VCU and his dastardly raid of the basketball talent. But Pera is now 6-3, and we had Houston on the ropes before our best player sprained his ankle and had to leave the game. That game had SWC energy in the Fieldhouse. The C-USA coaches were lazy and wrong in projecting the Owls at 13 in their pre-season poll.

Karlgaard also botched the end of Wayne Graham’s career. Bragga had an underwhelming year 1 in baseball, but year 2 looks to be better.

In the meantime we are building athletic endowments that will allow us to spend at the top of C-USA and at AAC and MWC levels.

I will not run down and criticize any program but my own. We know our issues and have taken steps to fix them.