(11-27-2019 10:05 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote: (11-27-2019 09:48 AM)tanqtonic Wrote: (11-27-2019 07:34 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote: (11-27-2019 03:13 AM)tanqtonic Wrote: (11-26-2019 05:50 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote: Should I post that comic again?
Which portion of the statement gives you the trigger to feel the urge to post a cartoon in return? Not snarky, just curious.
It’s like the third time in 3 days that OO has posted about the stock market, which isn’t an almighty indicator of economic health. It’s an indicator of shareholder value, which makes that comic spot on.
It is actually an indicator of economic health, albeit indirect and not almighty. and one thar engenders widespread and common attention. Even your St Barry used it as such.
Now its bad to flaunt it for some, I guess.
It isn’t bad, but even as you admit, it isn’t the be all end all. So continuing to see OO post his comments about the record highs, without other economic indicators or comments about other important issues makes me think of that comic. The comic comments about the single-mindedness that the post gets to - focusing on shareholder value/economic health to the exclusion of other issues.
I guess the idea that I am focusing on shareholder wealth comes from somewhere inside you, as it most certainly is NOT what I am doing.
I am calling attention to the continuing economic well being of our country. I
am calling attention to the good economy. I have told you this outright before, but you insist om trying to pin that false narrative on me.
It's like taking the patient's temperature. Temperature is an indication of health. Not the only one, not even, often, the best one. But a simple one that most people understand.
Same with the Dow. You yourself listed a long list of other economic indicators - unemployment, for example. But apparently you take umbrage at people who drive the economy doing well. And at people saying that things are going well.
It's not just the stockholders who do well. It is an indicator of people all through the economy doing well.
I point out the rise in the market as an indicator that Trump's policies are doing well for Americans.
I also point out that Democratic strategists are hoping for a fall in the market and in the economy before Election Day, 2020, as it will enhance their chances of unseating him.
Your stupid little cartoon presupposes that I and others like me care only about shareholder gains to the exclusion of all other problems we face.
Clearly not true, and it there is anything we have learned in the Trump era, it is that anything not true is a lie.
Yeah, we have climate change. Had it before, many times. The Sahara used to be be lush grasslands, and now it is a desert. Antarctica used to be jungle. The Viking used to grow grapes on Vinland, now known as Greenland. Glaciers used to cover half of North america, and there used to be a land bridge between Siberia and Alaska. Then came climate change.
Now come climate change again. The main difference now is that the people portion of said change is larger.
If instead of mentioning the Dow, if I said black unemployment was down, would you take the same offense at me pointing out ONE indicator of economic health, rather than the whole panoply? I think your problem is with THIS indicator. I think your problem is that it could be seen as putting Trump in a good light. I doubt you would have taken so much offence had I posted the Dow in 2015.
I think we have some difference in our basic outlooks. I think you care more about the people in 2188, and I care more about those in 2019. I think you believe in man caused climate change, and I think it is largely natural. I think you believe it can be cured by man's actions, and I think they are futile.
So, we have JMHO vs. JYHO.
Isn't that what this forum is for?
Not unusual for left wingers to think of the Dow as something of interest only to tux-wearing Richie Rich types. But I don't wear a tux. I look at the Dow as one measure of economic health among many. I don't care about shareholder wealth except for the shares I own, directly or indirectly.
Now that I have explained myself to you once again, I wonder how the Dow is doing today.
