Makes sense. It’s been obvious for years that Cal has friends in the NCAA.

(11-10-2019 09:27 PM)CUSA_NEWS Wrote:  

He dropped 11 and 1/2 dimes

Bump

(11-10-2019 08:47 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  He states someone have to convince NCAA of ruling Wiseman ineligible. He points to Cal

Quote:In this interview, you will hear Mr. Johnson break down the argument against the NCAA and why he believes that James Wiseman, the University of Memphis, and Penny Hardaway have a case against the NCAA for damages. According to Johnson, they could all get paid. Johnson makes it clear as day: the NCAA is a horribly inefficient and disorganized entity that bullies institutions into servitude.

Mr. Johnson was the plaintiff’s counsel in Oliver v. NCAA, which was the first college athlete lawsuit against the NCAA to ever go to trial, the first to win, and the first to get paid. The Oliver case was the impetus for the O’Bannon case and its ongoing progeny. Mr. Johnson was a primary background source for Taylor Branch’s seminal article, The Shame of College Sports.

Joe Nocera, in his book, "Indentured," called Mr. Johnson’s Submarining Due Process: How the NCAA Uses its Restitution Rule to Deprive College Athletes of their Right of Access to the Courts … Until Oliver v. NCAA the meanest law review article ever written. As a college athlete rights advocate and commentator, as well as a leading legal authority on the NCAA, Mr. Johnson is a member of the executive board of the College Sports Research Institute. Mr. Johnson holds his J.D., M.B.A., and B.A. from Case Western Reserve University, and he practices law in Cleveland, Ohio.


Here:
https://247sports.com/college/memphis/Ar...ssion=true

Yeah, the NCAA is so freaking incompetent they didn't know that Hardaway donated $1 Million Dollars to the university that has a building on campus with his name on and needed Calipari to tell them.

If the case is someone told the NCAA that Hardaway donated the money then they shouldn't even be in business. How do you do a 5 Month investigation and not know that.

Or was that their Ace in the hole to correct their initial mistake.

I think it's pretty obvious where this came from now...

KY's AD, Mitch Barnhart, was named chair of the Men's bball division I committee in JULY 2019. Who else is on that committee? Duke's AD.

So with that chair position, Barnhart also gets added to the NCAA's oversight committee.

May 2019 - NCAA clears Wiseman
July 2019 - KY's AD joins the oversight committee
October 2019 - NCAA backtracks on eligibility of Wiseman

Gee....wonder what happened to change their mind?

(11-11-2019 12:45 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  I think it's pretty obvious where this came from now...

KY's AD, Mitch Barnhart, was named chair of the Men's bball division I committee in JULY 2019. Who else is on that committee? Duke's AD.

So with that chair position, Barnhart also gets added to the NCAA's oversight committee.

May 2019 - NCAA clears Wiseman
July 2019 - KY's AD joins the oversight committee
October 2019 - NCAA backtracks on eligibility of Wiseman

Gee....wonder what happened to change their mind?

Man if that timeline is accurate.................smh

(11-11-2019 01:52 PM)Tiger Joe Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 12:45 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  I think it's pretty obvious where this came from now...

KY's AD, Mitch Barnhart, was named chair of the Men's bball division I committee in JULY 2019. Who else is on that committee? Duke's AD.

So with that chair position, Barnhart also gets added to the NCAA's oversight committee.

May 2019 - NCAA clears Wiseman
July 2019 - KY's AD joins the oversight committee
October 2019 - NCAA backtracks on eligibility of Wiseman

Gee....wonder what happened to change their mind?

Man if that timeline is accurate.................smh

Sorry - he's only the vice-chair of the selection committee this season...the Duke AD is actually chair, but regardless, it put Barnhart on the oversight committee starting this season.

http://www.ncaa.org/about/resources/medi...-committee

"Barnhart will serve as vice chair of the committee for the upcoming season, working with 2019-20 committee chair Kevin White, who is vice president and director of athletics at Duke.

.....

Barnhart, who also will join the Division I Men’s Basketball Oversight Committee this year, has led Kentucky’s athletics department to unprecedented success..."

So, if that was announced in July, if the season is when his term actually began, then the timing of all of this is just ridiculously impeccable.

(11-11-2019 12:45 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  I think it's pretty obvious where this came from now...

KY's AD, Mitch Barnhart, was named chair of the Men's bball division I committee in JULY 2019. Who else is on that committee? Duke's AD.

So with that chair position, Barnhart also gets added to the NCAA's oversight committee.

May 2019 - NCAA clears Wiseman
July 2019 - KY's AD joins the oversight committee
October 2019 - NCAA backtracks on eligibility of Wiseman

Gee....wonder what happened to change their mind?

Yeah but like we talked about in this thread (got to #39, the direct link doesn't seem to work), that committee seems unrelated to eligibility.

(11-11-2019 03:21 PM)Alanda Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 12:45 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  I think it's pretty obvious where this came from now...

KY's AD, Mitch Barnhart, was named chair of the Men's bball division I committee in JULY 2019. Who else is on that committee? Duke's AD.

So with that chair position, Barnhart also gets added to the NCAA's oversight committee.

May 2019 - NCAA clears Wiseman
July 2019 - KY's AD joins the oversight committee
October 2019 - NCAA backtracks on eligibility of Wiseman

Gee....wonder what happened to change their mind?

Yeah but like we talked about in this thread (got to #39, the direct link doesn't seem to work), that committee seems unrelated to eligibility.

The Men’s Basketball Oversight Committee will ensure that appropriate oversight of men’s basketball is maintained, will enhance the development and public perception of the sport and make recommendations related to regular-season and postseason men’s basketball. The committee will prioritize enhancement of the student-athlete educational experience (academically and athletically), and in doing so, promote student-athletes’ personal growth and leadership development.

The Men’s Basketball Oversight Committee will supervise qualifications and/or selection procedures for the NCAA Division I Men’s Basketball Championship. The committee will review recommendations from the NCAA Division I Men’s Basketball Committee and process other issues related to the administration of the championship. The committee will assume many of the duties of the former NCAA Division I Men’s Basketball Issues Committee and will provide direction to the NCAA Division I Men’s Basketball Rules Committee regarding playing rules. The committee will be comprised of representatives from each divisional subgroup.

As with everything NCAA, a little vague has to what they actually do and don't do.

(11-11-2019 03:31 PM)cmt Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 03:21 PM)Alanda Wrote:  

(11-11-2019 12:45 PM)tigergreen Wrote:  I think it's pretty obvious where this came from now...

KY's AD, Mitch Barnhart, was named chair of the Men's bball division I committee in JULY 2019. Who else is on that committee? Duke's AD.

So with that chair position, Barnhart also gets added to the NCAA's oversight committee.

May 2019 - NCAA clears Wiseman
July 2019 - KY's AD joins the oversight committee
October 2019 - NCAA backtracks on eligibility of Wiseman

Gee....wonder what happened to change their mind?

Yeah but like we talked about in this thread (got to #39, the direct link doesn't seem to work), that committee seems unrelated to eligibility.

The Men’s Basketball Oversight Committee will ensure that appropriate oversight of men’s basketball is maintained, will enhance the development and public perception of the sport and make recommendations related to regular-season and postseason men’s basketball. The committee will prioritize enhancement of the student-athlete educational experience (academically and athletically), and in doing so, promote student-athletes’ personal growth and leadership development.

The Men’s Basketball Oversight Committee will supervise qualifications and/or selection procedures for the NCAA Division I Men’s Basketball Championship. The committee will review recommendations from the NCAA Division I Men’s Basketball Committee and process other issues related to the administration of the championship. The committee will assume many of the duties of the former NCAA Division I Men’s Basketball Issues Committee and will provide direction to the NCAA Division I Men’s Basketball Rules Committee regarding playing rules. The committee will be comprised of representatives from each divisional subgroup.

As with everything NCAA, a little vague has to what they actually do and don't do.

Agreed that it's pretty vague. I dare say that Wiseman's eligibility would certainly affect the "selection procedures for the NCAA Division I Men's Basketball Championship" that they are supposed to supervise as well, in addition to their description of "making recommendations related to regular & post-season basketball."

At any rate, how simple would it be for the KY AD as a current vice-chair of an NCAA committee to mention to contacts on the infractions committee (or whatever committee does the approvals) that maybe they should give the Wiseman case another look?

It may have zero to do with it, but you can't say the timing isn't super-suspect.

Ballin’s FIRST (or top3 anyway) question will be “Who reopened Wiseman’s eligibility status at the NCAA?” Bet on it.

(11-10-2019 08:47 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  He states someone have to convince NCAA of ruling Wiseman ineligible. He points to Cal

Quote:In this interview, you will hear Mr. Johnson break down the argument against the NCAA and why he believes that James Wiseman, the University of Memphis, and Penny Hardaway have a case against the NCAA for damages. According to Johnson, they could all get paid. Johnson makes it clear as day: the NCAA is a horribly inefficient and disorganized entity that bullies institutions into servitude.

Mr. Johnson was the plaintiff’s counsel in Oliver v. NCAA, which was the first college athlete lawsuit against the NCAA to ever go to trial, the first to win, and the first to get paid. The Oliver case was the impetus for the O’Bannon case and its ongoing progeny. Mr. Johnson was a primary background source for Taylor Branch’s seminal article, The Shame of College Sports.

Joe Nocera, in his book, "Indentured," called Mr. Johnson’s Submarining Due Process: How the NCAA Uses its Restitution Rule to Deprive College Athletes of their Right of Access to the Courts … Until Oliver v. NCAA the meanest law review article ever written. As a college athlete rights advocate and commentator, as well as a leading legal authority on the NCAA, Mr. Johnson is a member of the executive board of the College Sports Research Institute. Mr. Johnson holds his J.D., M.B.A., and B.A. from Case Western Reserve University, and he practices law in Cleveland, Ohio.


Here:
https://247sports.com/college/memphis/Ar...ssion=true

Interesting Memphis connection for Mr. Johnson- the College Sport Research Institute was actually founded at the UofM in 2007 by Dr. Richard Southall. The institute moved to UNC in 2008 and then to South Carolina in 2013.

Robic is now a special assistant to Cal?

(11-11-2019 04:03 PM)TiggerFan Wrote:  Robic is now a special assistant to Cal?

Somebody has to do the grunt work

Quote:So, did Penny engage in illegal recruiting by giving the money? In my opinion, no way, no how. He never recruited James in 2017 to attend Memphis. He wasn’t the coach at Memphis. He was coaching high school basketball! And even if that had violated high school athletic association rules—I’m not aware that it did—that doesn’t violate NCAA rules.
Moreover, James was not enrolled in college. So it was not an improper benefit under NCAA rules.

Article is a must read. Great breakdown.

(11-12-2019 12:43 AM)CUSA_NEWS Wrote:  

Quote:So, did Penny engage in illegal recruiting by giving the money? In my opinion, no way, no how. He never recruited James in 2017 to attend Memphis. He wasn’t the coach at Memphis. He was coaching high school basketball! And even if that had violated high school athletic association rules—I’m not aware that it did—that doesn’t violate NCAA rules.
Moreover, James was not enrolled in college. So it was not an improper benefit under NCAA rules.

Article is a must read. Great breakdown.

Yep great article.


And let’s look at the reason the NCAA’s booster definition and rules exist in the first place. What are they trying to prevent? Recruiting violations and improper benefit violations that a university can’t do on its own, so they do it through a secret network of boosters—basically, people giving money to players so they’ll go to a particular school.

Well, what is an athletic hall of fame? It doesn’t do anything for recruiting. It’s alumni tool. It does a lot for alumni! It gives them a reason to come back to campus. A reason to invite other alumni who may have been of a certain athletic caliber where you could put them into that hall

... Everything Penny did with that donation has nothing to do with athletic recruiting—and everything to do with alumni affinity, the school’s endowment, and so on. I don’t expect the NCAA to understand those concepts. But I do.

(11-12-2019 12:43 AM)CUSA_NEWS Wrote:  

Quote:So, did Penny engage in illegal recruiting by giving the money? In my opinion, no way, no how. He never recruited James in 2017 to attend Memphis. He wasn’t the coach at Memphis. He was coaching high school basketball! And even if that had violated high school athletic association rules—I’m not aware that it did—that doesn’t violate NCAA rules.
Moreover, James was not enrolled in college. So it was not an improper benefit under NCAA rules.

Article is a must read. Great breakdown.

Absolute must read. Link to the article

The biggest thing the NCAA can't deal with is people who are totally fine without it. They set up contradictory rules, enforce them arbitrarily, and force everyone involved to follow them no matter how absurd for so long that even questioning whether different outcomes are possible becomes seen as foolish. This is allowed to happen because most of their victims need employment or life-altering opportunities to nonetheless be exploited for their labor within the organization.

Wiseman doesn't need these arrogant fools any more than he needs them to get out the damn way. I hope they don't retaliate against us but it's worth it to see their grip keep slipping.

He’s smart to finger Cal for this, because Cal yelling “recruiting violation”
is like Jeffrey Dahmer complaining about the chicken not being free range.

But it wasn’t Cal.