(10-23-2019 01:44 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  

(10-23-2019 11:19 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(10-23-2019 10:20 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  TLDR...stopped after you said #5 recruit. Please go back and find the #1 recruit every year for the last decade. Report back on how many and which ones didn’t end up being very good in college.

Thanks for attempting to help temper our expectations. Maybe now you better understand adequate expectations for the best player in each HS class.

Just post what you really meant to type..

"TLDR: stopped reading when post wasn't 100% complimentary of Memphis"

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I think when we’re making player comparisons they should be relevant. I’m still waiting on someone to tell me the last #1 rated player that wasn’t a really good college basketball player. Will James be an All American? Not sure, but apart from getting injured, I’d say it’s a pretty safe bet that he’ll do just fine.

The whole “he hasn’t proved it crowd” hasn’t seen him play yet either. You can’t say that he won’t come out and crush folks. He’s a 7’ athletic freak. Chances are good that he’ll make his mark. You don’t have to be a savant to foresee that.

You still haven’t read the post. LOL

(10-23-2019 01:44 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  

(10-23-2019 11:19 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(10-23-2019 10:20 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  TLDR...stopped after you said #5 recruit. Please go back and find the #1 recruit every year for the last decade. Report back on how many and which ones didn’t end up being very good in college.

Thanks for attempting to help temper our expectations. Maybe now you better understand adequate expectations for the best player in each HS class.

Just post what you really meant to type..

"TLDR: stopped reading when post wasn't 100% complimentary of Memphis"

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I think when we’re making player comparisons they should be relevant. I’m still waiting on someone to tell me the last #1 rated player that wasn’t a really good college basketball player. Will James be an All American? Not sure, but apart from getting injured, I’d say it’s a pretty safe bet that he’ll do just fine.

The whole “he hasn’t proved it crowd” hasn’t seen him play yet either. You can’t say that he won’t come out and crush folks. He’s a 7’ athletic freak. Chances are good that he’ll make his mark. You don’t have to be a savant to foresee that.

I can say i have not seen him play a real college basketball game. That is what we are discussing here? That he will be a good college basketball player? Which college games of him have you watched? What were his stats in those games? Did his team win?

(10-23-2019 01:55 PM)Shockit Wrote:  

(10-23-2019 01:44 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  

(10-23-2019 11:19 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(10-23-2019 10:20 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  TLDR...stopped after you said #5 recruit. Please go back and find the #1 recruit every year for the last decade. Report back on how many and which ones didn’t end up being very good in college.

Thanks for attempting to help temper our expectations. Maybe now you better understand adequate expectations for the best player in each HS class.

Just post what you really meant to type..

"TLDR: stopped reading when post wasn't 100% complimentary of Memphis"

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I think when we’re making player comparisons they should be relevant. I’m still waiting on someone to tell me the last #1 rated player that wasn’t a really good college basketball player. Will James be an All American? Not sure, but apart from getting injured, I’d say it’s a pretty safe bet that he’ll do just fine.

The whole “he hasn’t proved it crowd” hasn’t seen him play yet either. You can’t say that he won’t come out and crush folks. He’s a 7’ athletic freak. Chances are good that he’ll make his mark. You don’t have to be a savant to foresee that.

You still haven’t read the post. LOL

Cool story. You took the opportunity to change the subject from James being a great basketball player to a “Rah! Rah!” WSU former players/team post.

So you’re thinking James will average 3PPG this year? Thank you for your expert analysis!

Actually for those who have stated otherwise, this thread is about the announcement that Wiseman has been named to the 1st team Pre season AA team - an accomplishment that is an achievement of significant value to Wiseman, the Univ of Memphis & the AAC. And to those who say Wiseman has done nothing, the fact is he's been named a pre-season AA..... that in & of itself is an accomplishment no one else in the AAC has ever accomplished.

(10-23-2019 02:50 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Actually for those who have stated otherwise, this thread is about the announcement that Wiseman has been named to the 1st team Pre season AA team - an accomplishment that is an achievement of significant value to Wiseman, the Univ of Memphis & the AAC. And to those who say Wiseman has done nothing, the fact is he's been named a pre-season AA..... that in & of itself is an accomplishment no one else in the AAC has ever accomplished.

No one is challenging that .. Some Memphis posters just have a hard time handling anything that isn't 100% praise. Pre-Season accolades are cool ... but relatively meaningless if you don't follow through. Post-season are where it's really important and valuable for the conference.

(10-23-2019 02:53 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(10-23-2019 02:50 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Actually for those who have stated otherwise, this thread is about the announcement that Wiseman has been named to the 1st team Pre season AA team - an accomplishment that is an achievement of significant value to Wiseman, the Univ of Memphis & the AAC. And to those who say Wiseman has done nothing, the fact is he's been named a pre-season AA..... that in & of itself is an accomplishment no one else in the AAC has ever accomplished.

No one is challenging that .. Some Memphis posters just have a hard time handling anything that isn't 100% praise. Pre-Season accolades are cool ... but relatively meaningless if you don't follow through. Post-season are where it's really important and valuable for the conference.

Interesting. We have preseason polls posted here for both football and basketball that all kinds of fans get excited about.

(10-23-2019 02:55 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-23-2019 02:53 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(10-23-2019 02:50 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Actually for those who have stated otherwise, this thread is about the announcement that Wiseman has been named to the 1st team Pre season AA team - an accomplishment that is an achievement of significant value to Wiseman, the Univ of Memphis & the AAC. And to those who say Wiseman has done nothing, the fact is he's been named a pre-season AA..... that in & of itself is an accomplishment no one else in the AAC has ever accomplished.

No one is challenging that .. Some Memphis posters just have a hard time handling anything that isn't 100% praise. Pre-Season accolades are cool ... but relatively meaningless if you don't follow through. Post-season are where it's really important and valuable for the conference.

Interesting. We have preseason polls posted here for both football and basketball that all kinds of fans get excited about.

You gonna hang a banner for Pre-season accolades? didn't think so. They are fun because it means the season is starting .. but no one really remembers who was pre-season #1 a few years ago or first team pre-season AA 5 years ago. The only time that gets remembered is when you have a team crash and burn (like UK a few years ago).

(10-23-2019 02:58 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(10-23-2019 02:55 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-23-2019 02:53 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(10-23-2019 02:50 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Actually for those who have stated otherwise, this thread is about the announcement that Wiseman has been named to the 1st team Pre season AA team - an accomplishment that is an achievement of significant value to Wiseman, the Univ of Memphis & the AAC. And to those who say Wiseman has done nothing, the fact is he's been named a pre-season AA..... that in & of itself is an accomplishment no one else in the AAC has ever accomplished.

No one is challenging that .. Some Memphis posters just have a hard time handling anything that isn't 100% praise. Pre-Season accolades are cool ... but relatively meaningless if you don't follow through. Post-season are where it's really important and valuable for the conference.

Interesting. We have preseason polls posted here for both football and basketball that all kinds of fans get excited about.

You gonna hang a banner for Pre-season accolades? didn't think so. They are fun because it means the season is starting .. but no one really remembers who was pre-season #1 a few years ago or first team pre-season AA 5 years ago. The only time that gets remembered is when you have a team crash and burn (like UK a few years ago).

The point is, it is where we are relative to the up coming season. Something to be celebrated about where we are now rather than being viewed with qualification or diminishing the accomplishment because it isn't something else.

(10-23-2019 03:07 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(10-23-2019 02:58 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(10-23-2019 02:55 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-23-2019 02:53 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(10-23-2019 02:50 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Actually for those who have stated otherwise, this thread is about the announcement that Wiseman has been named to the 1st team Pre season AA team - an accomplishment that is an achievement of significant value to Wiseman, the Univ of Memphis & the AAC. And to those who say Wiseman has done nothing, the fact is he's been named a pre-season AA..... that in & of itself is an accomplishment no one else in the AAC has ever accomplished.

No one is challenging that .. Some Memphis posters just have a hard time handling anything that isn't 100% praise. Pre-Season accolades are cool ... but relatively meaningless if you don't follow through. Post-season are where it's really important and valuable for the conference.

Interesting. We have preseason polls posted here for both football and basketball that all kinds of fans get excited about.

You gonna hang a banner for Pre-season accolades? didn't think so. They are fun because it means the season is starting .. but no one really remembers who was pre-season #1 a few years ago or first team pre-season AA 5 years ago. The only time that gets remembered is when you have a team crash and burn (like UK a few years ago).

The point is, it is where we are relative to the up coming season. Something to be celebrated about where we are now rather than being viewed with qualification or diminishing the accomplishment because it isn't something else.

That's fine, it's also ok to not be super over the top excited about it. It's cool, but meh for some people. That's ok but not allowed by some Memphis people.

(10-23-2019 01:35 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  

(10-23-2019 11:46 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(10-23-2019 10:20 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  TLDR...stopped after you said #5 recruit. Please go back and find the #1 recruit every year for the last decade. Report back on how many and which ones didn’t end up being very good in college.

Thanks for attempting to help temper our expectations. Maybe now you better understand adequate expectations for the best player in each HS class.

Typical insecure and defensive response.

As a lawyer, you should know to read everything stated to you and concentrate on every detail.

Stopping reading at #5 now made you look like a thin-skinned fool.

No clue what you’re talking about with this lawyer stuff. Maybe your fans should educate themselves on historical trends instead of making random comparisons that fit the narrative they would like to come to fruition.


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There was not 1 negative thing said about Wiseman until you got rattled again for no reason like you typically do.

I have never seen a fanbase concentrate more on perceived slights or expect total surrender (Wiseman, Penny, etc) before a game has even been played.

Why can’t Memphis fans wait until the season starts before getting bent out of shape that everybody isn’t bowing down to them at every turn? It looks so conceited and only allows the door to be opened for potential backlash.

(10-23-2019 02:58 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(10-23-2019 02:55 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-23-2019 02:53 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(10-23-2019 02:50 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Actually for those who have stated otherwise, this thread is about the announcement that Wiseman has been named to the 1st team Pre season AA team - an accomplishment that is an achievement of significant value to Wiseman, the Univ of Memphis & the AAC. And to those who say Wiseman has done nothing, the fact is he's been named a pre-season AA..... that in & of itself is an accomplishment no one else in the AAC has ever accomplished.

No one is challenging that .. Some Memphis posters just have a hard time handling anything that isn't 100% praise. Pre-Season accolades are cool ... but relatively meaningless if you don't follow through. Post-season are where it's really important and valuable for the conference.

Interesting. We have preseason polls posted here for both football and basketball that all kinds of fans get excited about.

You gonna hang a banner for Pre-season accolades? didn't think so. They are fun because it means the season is starting .. but no one really remembers who was pre-season #1 a few years ago or first team pre-season AA 5 years ago. The only time that gets remembered is when you have a team crash and burn (like UK a few years ago).

Of course nobody hangs banners for preseason honors. That was uncalled for.

Point is, a few of you Wheaters seem to feel obliged to downgrade this, when you don't do the same for other preseason honors, like football and basketball polls, AAC Media Day polls, etc.

(10-23-2019 03:17 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-23-2019 02:58 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(10-23-2019 02:55 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-23-2019 02:53 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(10-23-2019 02:50 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Actually for those who have stated otherwise, this thread is about the announcement that Wiseman has been named to the 1st team Pre season AA team - an accomplishment that is an achievement of significant value to Wiseman, the Univ of Memphis & the AAC. And to those who say Wiseman has done nothing, the fact is he's been named a pre-season AA..... that in & of itself is an accomplishment no one else in the AAC has ever accomplished.

No one is challenging that .. Some Memphis posters just have a hard time handling anything that isn't 100% praise. Pre-Season accolades are cool ... but relatively meaningless if you don't follow through. Post-season are where it's really important and valuable for the conference.

Interesting. We have preseason polls posted here for both football and basketball that all kinds of fans get excited about.

You gonna hang a banner for Pre-season accolades? didn't think so. They are fun because it means the season is starting .. but no one really remembers who was pre-season #1 a few years ago or first team pre-season AA 5 years ago. The only time that gets remembered is when you have a team crash and burn (like UK a few years ago).

Of course nobody hangs banners for preseason honors. That was uncalled for.

Point is, a few of you Wheaters seem to feel obliged to downgrade this, when you don't do the same for other preseason honors, like football and basketball polls, AAC Media Day polls, etc.

Well ... i really don't care about football nor do most of WSU fans. And no one really downgraded this. That's the disconnect. It's neat but it is exactly what it is. Nothing anyone will care about once the season starts. That's not downgrading it. It's 100% reality. Same way it really doesn't matter that Houston was picked pre-season above Memphis by the coaches. Once the games start.... doesn't matter. Houston hasn't won anything yet.

(10-23-2019 03:17 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-23-2019 02:58 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(10-23-2019 02:55 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(10-23-2019 02:53 PM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(10-23-2019 02:50 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Actually for those who have stated otherwise, this thread is about the announcement that Wiseman has been named to the 1st team Pre season AA team - an accomplishment that is an achievement of significant value to Wiseman, the Univ of Memphis & the AAC. And to those who say Wiseman has done nothing, the fact is he's been named a pre-season AA..... that in & of itself is an accomplishment no one else in the AAC has ever accomplished.

No one is challenging that .. Some Memphis posters just have a hard time handling anything that isn't 100% praise. Pre-Season accolades are cool ... but relatively meaningless if you don't follow through. Post-season are where it's really important and valuable for the conference.

Interesting. We have preseason polls posted here for both football and basketball that all kinds of fans get excited about.

You gonna hang a banner for Pre-season accolades? didn't think so. They are fun because it means the season is starting .. but no one really remembers who was pre-season #1 a few years ago or first team pre-season AA 5 years ago. The only time that gets remembered is when you have a team crash and burn (like UK a few years ago).

Of course nobody hangs banners for preseason honors. That was uncalled for.

Point is, a few of you Wheaters seem to feel obliged to downgrade this, when you don't do the same for other preseason honors, like football and basketball polls, AAC Media Day polls, etc.

The first person to “downgrade” this was a Cincy fan. And “downgrade” is quite a stretch.

Typical hypocrisy and fallacy from the Triple Dipple.

Wiseman is the 2019 version of Hasheem Thabeet! You heard it here first!

(10-23-2019 02:50 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Actually for those who have stated otherwise, this thread is about the announcement that Wiseman has been named to the 1st team Pre season AA team - an accomplishment that is an achievement of significant value to Wiseman, the Univ of Memphis & the AAC. And to those who say Wiseman has done nothing, the fact is he's been named a pre-season AA..... that in & of itself is an accomplishment no one else in the AAC has ever accomplished.

Yes, in fact none of the other players named as preseason All-Americans have scored a single point or gotten a single rebound on this years All-American team. They all have potential. Some have college experience but they could have a bad year, get injured, etc.

Don't think anyone from Memphis is attempting to say this announcement is anything more than a Pre-season 1st team honor for James Wiseman that had never been accomplished by any player in the AAC. We just aren't diminishing what it is - an honor no one else in the AAC has previously accomplished.

(10-23-2019 03:12 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(10-23-2019 01:35 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  

(10-23-2019 11:46 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(10-23-2019 10:20 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  TLDR...stopped after you said #5 recruit. Please go back and find the #1 recruit every year for the last decade. Report back on how many and which ones didn’t end up being very good in college.

Thanks for attempting to help temper our expectations. Maybe now you better understand adequate expectations for the best player in each HS class.

Typical insecure and defensive response.

As a lawyer, you should know to read everything stated to you and concentrate on every detail.

Stopping reading at #5 now made you look like a thin-skinned fool.

No clue what you’re talking about with this lawyer stuff. Maybe your fans should educate themselves on historical trends instead of making random comparisons that fit the narrative they would like to come to fruition.


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There was not 1 negative thing said about Wiseman until you got rattled again for no reason like you typically do.

I have never seen a fanbase concentrate more on perceived slights or expect total surrender (Wiseman, Penny, etc) before a game has even been played.

Why can’t Memphis fans wait until the season starts before getting bent out of shape that everybody isn’t bowing down to them at every turn? It looks so conceited and only allows the door to be opened for potential backlash.

Comparing Wiseman to a dude that averaged 3PPG in college and has had a below average NBA career isn’t negative?

(10-23-2019 03:30 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  

(10-23-2019 03:12 PM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(10-23-2019 01:35 PM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  

(10-23-2019 11:46 AM)ShockerFever Wrote:  

(10-23-2019 10:20 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  TLDR...stopped after you said #5 recruit. Please go back and find the #1 recruit every year for the last decade. Report back on how many and which ones didn’t end up being very good in college.

Thanks for attempting to help temper our expectations. Maybe now you better understand adequate expectations for the best player in each HS class.

Typical insecure and defensive response.

As a lawyer, you should know to read everything stated to you and concentrate on every detail.

Stopping reading at #5 now made you look like a thin-skinned fool.

No clue what you’re talking about with this lawyer stuff. Maybe your fans should educate themselves on historical trends instead of making random comparisons that fit the narrative they would like to come to fruition.


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There was not 1 negative thing said about Wiseman until you got rattled again for no reason like you typically do.

I have never seen a fanbase concentrate more on perceived slights or expect total surrender (Wiseman, Penny, etc) before a game has even been played.

Why can’t Memphis fans wait until the season starts before getting bent out of shape that everybody isn’t bowing down to them at every turn? It looks so conceited and only allows the door to be opened for potential backlash.

Comparing Wiseman to a dude that averaged 3PPG in college and has had a below average NBA career isn’t negative?

I thought you stopped reading at #5?

Do yourself a favor and read the last 2 paragraphs of his post and then delete your post and save some face.

(10-23-2019 11:19 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  

(10-23-2019 10:20 AM)cscottl1981 Wrote:  TLDR...stopped after you said #5 recruit. Please go back and find the #1 recruit every year for the last decade. Report back on how many and which ones didn’t end up being very good in college.

Thanks for attempting to help temper our expectations. Maybe now you better understand adequate expectations for the best player in each HS class.

Just post what you really meant to type..

"TLDR: stopped reading when post wasn't 100% complimentary of Memphis"

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The dude said "It sounds like Wiseman will be a good player".....duh.

Then proceeds to write a short story on players with high expectations that have failed. The point being...…………….Who the heck knows.

You are correct. It was not 100% complimentary. It was more like 1% complimentary.

These threads are getting sad