(09-27-2019 09:29 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote: (09-27-2019 09:18 AM)Hambone10 Wrote: (09-26-2019 08:10 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote: The second biggest thing is that this confirms Trump cares nothing about maintaining the trust of the American people - if he did, he wouldn’t have come close to personally trying to convince a foreign power to investigate anything related to a political opponent.
by political opponent, you mean someone who may have engaged in quid-pro-quo for personal gain?
That's the problem with your position... same with the Russian emails... If Biden did nothing wrong, there is nothing to investigate. if there is, what is the difference, except party... and that Trump's inquiry doesn't exist without Biden's clear (under this assumption) crime.
Are you saying asking a foreign government to help us root out crimes that involved them is wrong?
No - I'm saying Trump shouldn't be directly involved in investigative matters that involve his political opponents.
If Biden truly did something wrong, we have non-partisan ways of handling investigations. If the Justice Department felt that whatever crime Trump and Giuliani are suggesting Biden committed was credible enough and serious enough to pursue, let them investigate and keep Trump out of it.
Are you saying you're fine with the president using his power and influence to push for investigations of anyone he is interested in pursuing, regardless of its influence on our national interest?
The events of the past few years up to and including the last few days, lead me to believe we actually do NOT have non-partisan ways of handling investigations.
Clearly, many of the actions by the FBI and Congress have been nothing but partisan.
I am extremely tired of the bickering, lies, and hypocrisy on the part of the Democrats. They don't care about the country - only getting Trump. They do nothing on anything - except getting Trump.
They are crying now that nobody is above the law.
Except Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Comey, GPS Fusion, Brennan, Clapper, Holder, Susan Rice, and a long long list of others who share one characteristic - they are Democrats.
Personally, I would hope that Biden emerges untouched from this. I would prefer him to the Socialists who would take over if he falters., and that people here would vote for in a heartbeat. But the Dems who are running against him will make sure it hurts him.
I think it is all much ado over nothing. But the Democrats are good at making a mountain out of a molehill, as they have shown the past few years.
I guess the objective is to put Pence in office, on the theory he will be easier to beat. 1976 all over again.