(09-23-2019 05:00 PM)billybobby777 Wrote:  King should leave then. This deal about red shirting—because his team had a bad 4 games—and coming back next year is the same thing as quitting on your teammates.
Not cool.

Why?

You go to college to put yourself in a position to grow and get a good job. If someones daughter started at ECU then got a full-ride offer to MIT would you fault her for transferring? Absolutely not.

Sitting out is what's best for him because he can spend a year developing his throwing. And if he comes back or transfers he will be a better QB.

One reason I thoght four games were too many. I do think the NCAA should go back and be changed it Two - Three games.

Some of these comments are the most delusional things I've ever heard.

Leave it to cougs to try and turn their team sucking so hard even their good players don't want to play for them into a positive.

(09-24-2019 12:16 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-24-2019 12:00 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-24-2019 11:39 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-24-2019 11:01 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-24-2019 10:36 AM)pesik Wrote:  you guys are going to seem really wrong if king comes back...something he publicly says he fully intends to do

if in 2021 we are a top 25 team, in the hunt for a new years 6...everyone critical of the decision will the praise it ...

i see king leaving only if tune starts balling out...and the pressure and guilt of abandoning the team are lessened

Somebody could seem really wrong on the internet? Ooh, scary...

Meanwhile, you got one thing right...King already abandoned the team...for this season.

so we could rise again next season.. he only has 1 years eligibility left...most year 1 of coaches are throw away anyways

That is not what you guys were saying in the summer, lol.

Not to mention, Heupel's first season wasn't a throwaway. Neither was Norvell's.

we didnt say anythng in the summer....ive made numerous comments about this being the most boring football offseason as no specfic aac team feels super confident about their team to brag/trash talk

heupel was given an undefeated team...and norvell was 8-5...on a joke non-conference ..houston without king is 8-5 on that schedule

as a matter of fact lets use norvell....if memphis had the ability to sacrifice your first norvell season from 8-5 to 6-7 ..in return would have had riley ferguson last season to line up with Darrell Henderson...100% of memphis fans would take that ..you guys would have been in a ny6 had that happened ..that would haven been the best year in memphis 100yr football history...

edit: memphis would have taken its marbles too

Pesik, has anybody ever said anything at all that you didn't try to counter with ridiculous assumptions about other schools?

Let me tell you something. A few years ago, Memphis football was arguably the worst program in FBS. We didn't take our marbles and go home. We never quit. We just put more support behind the program, and made it successful.

Maybe Houston should figure out how to do that, instead of this silliness going on right now.

(09-24-2019 03:13 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-24-2019 12:16 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-24-2019 12:00 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-24-2019 11:39 AM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-24-2019 11:01 AM)TripleA Wrote:  Somebody could seem really wrong on the internet? Ooh, scary...

Meanwhile, you got one thing right...King already abandoned the team...for this season.

so we could rise again next season.. he only has 1 years eligibility left...most year 1 of coaches are throw away anyways

That is not what you guys were saying in the summer, lol.

Not to mention, Heupel's first season wasn't a throwaway. Neither was Norvell's.

we didnt say anythng in the summer....ive made numerous comments about this being the most boring football offseason as no specfic aac team feels super confident about their team to brag/trash talk

heupel was given an undefeated team...and norvell was 8-5...on a joke non-conference ..houston without king is 8-5 on that schedule

as a matter of fact lets use norvell....if memphis had the ability to sacrifice your first norvell season from 8-5 to 6-7 ..in return would have had riley ferguson last season to line up with Darrell Henderson...100% of memphis fans would take that ..you guys would have been in a ny6 had that happened ..that would haven been the best year in memphis 100yr football history...

edit: memphis would have taken its marbles too

Pesik, has anybody ever said anything at all that you didn't try to counter with ridiculous assumptions about other schools?

Let me tell you something. A few years ago, Memphis football was arguably the worst program in FBS. We didn't take our marbles and go home. We never quit. We just put more support behind the program, and made it successful.

Maybe Houston should figure out how to do that, instead of this silliness going on right now.

the redshirt rule is 2 years old...you didnt have the chance

if houston finish top 25 next year... me and every houston fan and player will take the "sillyness" with pride

in college football, 1-3 and your season is done on the national level....instead of mediocre this year, and mediocre next year...we sarcifice 2 or 3 wins from a mediocre season to have something special next year

memphis has had 2 top 25 finished in its 100 year history..both at just 25..memphis has never been to a major bowl ever.... special season come far and few between in the this sport...
if memphis could sacrifice 1 of the mediocre seasons to be became bad..to have an elite season in the top 15/NY6.. every single reasonable memphis fan would do it without hesitation

what we are doing is genius...you are looking at houston like how can you do this...when its extremely smart on houston part
if you want to be upset, be upset at the new rule

(09-24-2019 03:39 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-24-2019 03:13 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-24-2019 12:16 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-24-2019 12:00 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-24-2019 11:39 AM)pesik Wrote:  so we could rise again next season.. he only has 1 years eligibility left...most year 1 of coaches are throw away anyways

That is not what you guys were saying in the summer, lol.

Not to mention, Heupel's first season wasn't a throwaway. Neither was Norvell's.

we didnt say anythng in the summer....ive made numerous comments about this being the most boring football offseason as no specfic aac team feels super confident about their team to brag/trash talk

heupel was given an undefeated team...and norvell was 8-5...on a joke non-conference ..houston without king is 8-5 on that schedule

as a matter of fact lets use norvell....if memphis had the ability to sacrifice your first norvell season from 8-5 to 6-7 ..in return would have had riley ferguson last season to line up with Darrell Henderson...100% of memphis fans would take that ..you guys would have been in a ny6 had that happened ..that would haven been the best year in memphis 100yr football history...

edit: memphis would have taken its marbles too

Pesik, has anybody ever said anything at all that you didn't try to counter with ridiculous assumptions about other schools?

Let me tell you something. A few years ago, Memphis football was arguably the worst program in FBS. We didn't take our marbles and go home. We never quit. We just put more support behind the program, and made it successful.

Maybe Houston should figure out how to do that, instead of this silliness going on right now.

the redshirt rule is 2 years old...you didnt have the chance

if houston finish top 25 next year... me and every houston fan and player will take the "sillyness" with pride

in college football, 1-3 and your season is done on the national level....instead of mediocre this year, and mediocre next year...we sarcifice 2 or 3 wins from a mediocre season to have something special next year

memphis has had 2 top 25 finished in its 100 year history..both at just 25..memphis has never been to a major bowl ever.... special season come far and few between in the this sport...
if memphis could sacrifice 1 of the mediocre seasons to be became bad..to have an elite season in the top 15/NY6.. every single reasonable memphis fan would do it without hesitation

what we are doing is genius...you are looking at houston like how can you do this...when its extremely smart on houston part
if you want to be upset, be upset at the new rule

It’s only smart if it works. The AAC has a few other teams looking good for next year, UCF included. It’s a gamble and will leave Houston looking pretty dumb if it backfires.

houston presser happening right now:

clayton tune has been announced as the starter

Dana Holgorsen says he and a bunch of the players including king had discussed the possibility of it over the weekend after tulane loss..but said he wasnt the one making the decision...{looks like he was the seed, but players had to be the ones to decide}

thinks its smart to do this....says its cool that player were willing to extended their college stay..not very common among kids today.. team is likely a year away from competing for a championship

Holgorsen said he expects King to be UH’s starter next season.

said its not done, expects to talk to a few other players about it

Holgorsen said NCAA is probably upset with him because this wasn’t intent of new redshirt rule.

(09-24-2019 03:45 PM)zfred12 Wrote:  

(09-24-2019 03:39 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-24-2019 03:13 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-24-2019 12:16 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-24-2019 12:00 PM)TripleA Wrote:  That is not what you guys were saying in the summer, lol.

Not to mention, Heupel's first season wasn't a throwaway. Neither was Norvell's.

we didnt say anythng in the summer....ive made numerous comments about this being the most boring football offseason as no specfic aac team feels super confident about their team to brag/trash talk

heupel was given an undefeated team...and norvell was 8-5...on a joke non-conference ..houston without king is 8-5 on that schedule

as a matter of fact lets use norvell....if memphis had the ability to sacrifice your first norvell season from 8-5 to 6-7 ..in return would have had riley ferguson last season to line up with Darrell Henderson...100% of memphis fans would take that ..you guys would have been in a ny6 had that happened ..that would haven been the best year in memphis 100yr football history...

edit: memphis would have taken its marbles too

Pesik, has anybody ever said anything at all that you didn't try to counter with ridiculous assumptions about other schools?

Let me tell you something. A few years ago, Memphis football was arguably the worst program in FBS. We didn't take our marbles and go home. We never quit. We just put more support behind the program, and made it successful.

Maybe Houston should figure out how to do that, instead of this silliness going on right now.

the redshirt rule is 2 years old...you didnt have the chance

if houston finish top 25 next year... me and every houston fan and player will take the "sillyness" with pride

in college football, 1-3 and your season is done on the national level....instead of mediocre this year, and mediocre next year...we sarcifice 2 or 3 wins from a mediocre season to have something special next year

memphis has had 2 top 25 finished in its 100 year history..both at just 25..memphis has never been to a major bowl ever.... special season come far and few between in the this sport...
if memphis could sacrifice 1 of the mediocre seasons to be became bad..to have an elite season in the top 15/NY6.. every single reasonable memphis fan would do it without hesitation

what we are doing is genius...you are looking at houston like how can you do this...when its extremely smart on houston part
if you want to be upset, be upset at the new rule

It’s only smart if it works. The AAC has a few other teams looking good for next year, UCF included. It’s a gamble and will leave Houston looking pretty dumb if it backfires.

I can agree with this. Like i said earlier it is a big risk but the payoff makes it worth it in my opinion. I also wont argue the 98% of the time tanking in college does not work except in very rare circumstances.


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(09-24-2019 03:39 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-24-2019 03:13 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-24-2019 12:16 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-24-2019 12:00 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-24-2019 11:39 AM)pesik Wrote:  so we could rise again next season.. he only has 1 years eligibility left...most year 1 of coaches are throw away anyways

That is not what you guys were saying in the summer, lol.

Not to mention, Heupel's first season wasn't a throwaway. Neither was Norvell's.

we didnt say anythng in the summer....ive made numerous comments about this being the most boring football offseason as no specfic aac team feels super confident about their team to brag/trash talk

heupel was given an undefeated team...and norvell was 8-5...on a joke non-conference ..houston without king is 8-5 on that schedule

as a matter of fact lets use norvell....if memphis had the ability to sacrifice your first norvell season from 8-5 to 6-7 ..in return would have had riley ferguson last season to line up with Darrell Henderson...100% of memphis fans would take that ..you guys would have been in a ny6 had that happened ..that would haven been the best year in memphis 100yr football history...

edit: memphis would have taken its marbles too

Pesik, has anybody ever said anything at all that you didn't try to counter with ridiculous assumptions about other schools?

Let me tell you something. A few years ago, Memphis football was arguably the worst program in FBS. We didn't take our marbles and go home. We never quit. We just put more support behind the program, and made it successful.

Maybe Houston should figure out how to do that, instead of this silliness going on right now.

the redshirt rule is 2 years old...you didnt have the chance

if houston finish top 25 next year... me and every houston fan and player will take the "sillyness" with pride

in college football, 1-3 and your season is done on the national level....instead of mediocre this year, and mediocre next year...we sarcifice 2 or 3 wins from a mediocre season to have something special next year

memphis has had 2 top 25 finished in its 100 year history..both at just 25..memphis has never been to a major bowl ever.... special season come far and few between in the this sport...
if memphis could sacrifice 1 of the mediocre seasons to be became bad..to have an elite season in the top 15/NY6.. every single reasonable memphis fan would do it without hesitation

what we are doing is genius...you are looking at houston like how can you do this...when its extremely smart on houston part
if you want to be upset, be upset at the new rule

Memphis finished 14th in 1963. Do better research if you're going to pontificate to other schools' fans about their own school.

Plus, Memphis doesn't have a damn thing to do with what Houston is doing, so stop deflecting.

What Houston is doing is not genius. It's a gamble that could backfire, and it definitely goes against the spirit of the rule. But be proud, lol.

Tanking is what losers do when they have no hope of winning fair and square. To me, it's like an amateur golfer intentionally playing poorly in qualifying to get seeded in an easier flight.

(09-24-2019 03:39 PM)pesik Wrote:  what we are doing is genius...you are looking at houston like how can you do this...when its extremely smart on houston part
if you want to be upset, be upset at the new rule

(09-24-2019 03:13 PM)TripleA Wrote:  Pesik, has anybody ever said anything at all that you didn't try to counter with ridiculous assumptions about other schools?

king is on the podiom now..

say he is whole-heartedly here, and has zero intentions to enter the portal...

any report of him every considering a transfer was fake news

says he never even thought about red-shirting til the staff brought it up on friday...the staff brought the idea to him, and thats when he started to consider.......

and that he is doing this for the team..

says he loves houston...and strongly states "I'm here"

(09-24-2019 04:05 PM)pesik Wrote:  king is on the podiom now..

say he is whole-heartedly here, and has zero intentions to enter the portal...

any report of him every considering a transfer was fake news

says he never even thought about red-shirting til the staff brought it up on friday...the staff brought the idea to him, and thats when he started to consider.......

and that he is doing this for the team..

says he loves houston...and strongly states "I'm here"

There is going to be massive crow to eat if this works.


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Dude quit and hid behind a red shirt.

Please tell me Houston you are dumb enough to believe anything else

If I were a UH football season ticket holder for 2019-2020, I'd be so pissed off right now... Imagine paying money for a product that just outright quits a third into the season.

I guess they are counting that the ticketholders will swallow it and come back next year.

(09-24-2019 04:10 PM)BearcatJerry Wrote:  If I were a UH football season ticket holder for 2019-2020, I'd be so pissed off right now... Imagine paying money for a product that just outright quits a third into the season.

I guess they are counting that the ticketholders will swallow it and come back next year.

I’m not pissed because I knew this was going to be a bad year for us. I knew this would be a rebuild year. I buy season tickets to support the program not a season of football. If this is what it takes to make the rebuild end quicker then I’ll support it.


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corbin on the podioum:

also says the staff brough the idea to him, and its was extremely difficult decision for him...had to really think about it this weekend..
tut the staff talked abut him developing as a player and as a man , this was a chance he couldnt pass up

---its become blatantly obvious it was scheme by the staff

(09-24-2019 04:07 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-24-2019 04:05 PM)pesik Wrote:  king is on the podiom now..

say he is whole-heartedly here, and has zero intentions to enter the portal...

any report of him every considering a transfer was fake news

says he never even thought about red-shirting til the staff brought it up on friday...the staff brought the idea to him, and thats when he started to consider.......

and that he is doing this for the team..

says he loves houston...and strongly states "I'm here"

There is going to be massive crow to eat if this works.


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No there isn't. You guys just don't get it, or else you're blinded by homerism to how this looks to everybody else.

You are sandbagging the season in hopes of being better next season. That is poor sportsmanship, plain and simple.

It doesn't matter if it "works" or not. It's a chickensh!t move. None of us give a flying crap whether it works or not.

You don't like how the season started, so your staff is tanking in hopes that its best players will return for a better season next year.

Yeah, genius move, lol. You look bad whether it "works" or not. Even if you win more next year, it will be tainted by this grandstand move.

But more power to you. I thought nothing could top UConn quitting on football, and believing they could keep their program here and double dip on TV revenue, but I think this might top it, lol.

Your admin, your coaches and your players are doing nothing to help your image as a university.

It looks bad, and some of you guys are trying to spin it as a brilliant move.

(09-24-2019 04:23 PM)pesik Wrote:  corbin on the podioum:

also says the staff brough the idea to him, and its was extremely difficult decision for him...had to really think about it this weekend..
tut the staff talked abut him developing as a player and as a man , this was a chance he couldnt pass up

---its become blatantly obvious it was scheme by the staff

Which makes it even worse, lol.