Seems to me, D'Eriq is saying he's not transferring until Spring semester starts so that he can graduate in the Spring, and then transfer without having to sit out a year.

That's what Josh Jackson did to VT. He entered the portal in late January and made his decision to transfer to MD that Spring all the while he was on a VT scholarship and there was nothing any one could do about it.

(09-23-2019 11:25 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  Seems to me, D'Eriq is saying he's not transferring until Spring semester starts so that he can graduate in the Spring, and then transfer without having to sit out a year.

That's what Josh Jackson did to VT. He entered the portal in late January and made his decision to transfer to MD that Spring all the while he was on a VT scholarship and there was nothing any one could do about it.

when you enter the portal doesnt has no effect on you scholarship for the current year or or how your transfer will be perceived

it just means that other coaches can contact you ..he an still be a grad transfer and be in the portal now

i also doubt he makes a public statement that he fully intends to finish his career in houston...

(09-23-2019 11:30 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 11:25 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  Seems to me, D'Eriq is saying he's not transferring until Spring semester starts so that he can graduate in the Spring, and then transfer without having to sit out a year.

That's what Josh Jackson did to VT. He entered the portal in late January and made his decision to transfer to MD that Spring all the while he was on a VT scholarship and there was nothing any one could do about it.

when you enter the portal doesnt has no effect on you scholarship for the current year or or how your transfer will be perceived

it just means that other coaches can contact you ..he an still be a grad transfer and be in the portal now

i also doubt he makes a public statement that he fully intends to finish his career in houston...

Not to mention this tweet from about as direct a source as you can get should kill alot of the transfer talk.

https://mobile.twitter.com/LoganHolgorse...6503927809



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(09-23-2019 11:11 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 11:02 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 09:00 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 08:57 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 08:54 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  Once again it was the coach that told him to redshirt, not king. Kings dad is the one that jumped the gun and made the statement he would just transfer instead.


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The coach told King to redshirt? If he did, then it was b/c King told him he was transferring. That's still on King, not Holgorsen. You think Holgorsen wants him to redshirt? That's freaking laughable.

Wrong... Holgerson said multiple times before the season he wanted another year with king. Holgerson had him start the first 4 games to see how it would work out and it didn’t. So Holgerson told him to redshirt so he could have another year to work with him. Holgerson already has multiple other seniors that are now redshirting after the tulane loss.


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I seriously doubt that is true. If it is, then Holgorsen is a freaking idiot. Not to mention, pulling a stunt like that is against the spirit of the redshirt rule, lol. Not to mention, that has to be the dumbest explanation possible. It just gets worse and worse. Keep digging that hole.

And before long, there will be a Holgorsen mod to the rules, lol.

Why is it a stupid stunt? Seriously? If the only choices you have are A. Lose all your best players in an attempt to win 6 games at absolutely best and then have to stretch out the rebuild 3 more years because of it. Or B. Redshirt them and have veteran players who now have had a year to learn the new system and will be much more ready to go as well as help the new recruits that come in.

Tbh you’re really digging just to find a reason to bag on Houston. There literally is no positive reason to NOT redshirt king this year.

Just because people don’t like that the coach has figured out a new way to game the system doesn’t mean it should be changed.


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You are totally full of crap, dude. That's what people say when they don't have a sound argument. Plus, you don't know crap about me, so don't act like you do.

I have never bagged on Houston about anything, and I'm not now. I'm neutral. I don't have it in for Houston. Don't flatter yourself by thinking otherwise. It's just a fascinating story, that's all.

I just don't believe Holgorsen talked King and Corbin into this. It makes little sense, no matter how you want to spin it into some brilliant coaching strategy.

You think the coach decided to tank the rest of the season to give them a better chance next year? No coach in his right mind would do that.

Based on what King's dad said earlier today, what I really think happened is King and Corbin got disgusted with the team's record, and decided to transfer before they blew their year of eligibility.

That's essentially what King's dad said earlier today. When they went to Holgorsen, he talked them into doing the redshirt thing, and sleeping on it, rather than telling people they are transferring. That decision can be made much later now, after everybody calms down. It also doesn't make Holgorsen look as bad.

That scenario makes much more sense than this being some brilliant strategic move by Holgorsen, who willingly gives his team a much worse record this season in hopes it's better next year. Hell, a move like that could also get a coach fired, lol.

(09-23-2019 11:02 PM)TripleA Wrote:  No coach in his right mind benches his starters after 4 games, redshirts them, and tanks the current season. That is absolutely insane. You should hope that isn't true, lol.

And if so, before long, there will be an NCAA "Holgorsen mod" to the redshirt rules.

why this is holgs 1st season, and has a ton not in place yet....we currently have 6 players sitting out on transfer rules..extremely few seniors

but only 1 year with his star qb.....this is actually genius and amazing for houston

houston was supposed to be better at every position but qb next season...houston is now better at every position next year

(09-23-2019 11:37 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 11:11 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 11:02 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 09:00 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 08:57 PM)TripleA Wrote:  The coach told King to redshirt? If he did, then it was b/c King told him he was transferring. That's still on King, not Holgorsen. You think Holgorsen wants him to redshirt? That's freaking laughable.

Wrong... Holgerson said multiple times before the season he wanted another year with king. Holgerson had him start the first 4 games to see how it would work out and it didn’t. So Holgerson told him to redshirt so he could have another year to work with him. Holgerson already has multiple other seniors that are now redshirting after the tulane loss.


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I seriously doubt that is true. If it is, then Holgorsen is a freaking idiot. Not to mention, pulling a stunt like that is against the spirit of the redshirt rule, lol. Not to mention, that has to be the dumbest explanation possible. It just gets worse and worse. Keep digging that hole.

And before long, there will be a Holgorsen mod to the rules, lol.

Why is it a stupid stunt? Seriously? If the only choices you have are A. Lose all your best players in an attempt to win 6 games at absolutely best and then have to stretch out the rebuild 3 more years because of it. Or B. Redshirt them and have veteran players who now have had a year to learn the new system and will be much more ready to go as well as help the new recruits that come in.

Tbh you’re really digging just to find a reason to bag on Houston. There literally is no positive reason to NOT redshirt king this year.

Just because people don’t like that the coach has figured out a new way to game the system doesn’t mean it should be changed.


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You are totally full of crap, dude. That's what people say when they don't have a sound argument. Plus, you don't know crap about me, so don't act like you do.

I have never bagged on Houston about anything, and I'm not now. I'm neutral. I don't have it in for Houston. Don't flatter yourself by thinking otherwise. It's just a fascinating story, that's all.

I just don't believe Holgorsen talked King and Corbin into this. It makes little sense, no matter how you want to spin it into some brilliant coaching strategy.

You think the coach decided to tank the rest of the season to give them a better chance next year? No coach in his right mind would do that.

Based on what King's dad said earlier today, what I really think happened is King and Corbin got disgusted with the team's record, and decided to transfer before they blew their year of eligibility.

That's essentially what King's dad said earlier today. When they went to Holgorsen, he talked them into doing the redshirt thing, and sleeping on it, rather than telling people they are transferring. That decision can be made much later now, after everybody calms down. It also doesn't make Holgorsen look as bad.

That scenario makes much more sense than this being some brilliant strategic move by Holgorsen, who willingly gives his team a much worse record this season in hopes it's better next year.

You continue to make claims but provide absolutely no reason to back them up? Once again ill ask why wouldn’t a coach tank a season that he already knows is lost? It makes no sense to NOT tank the season when you know it will only hurt the team. Until you can answer that I don’t want to hear you’re speciation on an issue were all the facts have proven you wrong.

Once again ill post this tweet which pretty much proves all your transfer claims wrong.


https://mobile.twitter.com/LoganHolgorse...6503927809

Lets be real though if this strategy works and pays off you will hate it because it means other teams will realize it works and try it themselves. Then you’ll have to deal with the spirit of college football being ruined in your eyes.

Ill even go a far as to say any coach that doesn’t tank when he knows it will help the team is an idiot.


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(09-23-2019 11:39 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 11:02 PM)TripleA Wrote:  No coach in his right mind benches his starters after 4 games, redshirts them, and tanks the current season. That is absolutely insane. You should hope that isn't true, lol.

And if so, before long, there will be an NCAA "Holgorsen mod" to the redshirt rules.

why this is holgs 1st season, and has a ton not in place yet....we currently have 6 players sitting out on transfer rules..extremely few seniors

but only 1 year with his star qb.....this is actually genius and amazing for houston

houston was supposed to be better at every position but qb next season...houston is now better at every position next year

So you think it's brilliant to tank the season so maybe you can be better next year? Man, that is some twisted thinking.

Plus, I don't buy for a second that this was Holgorsen's idea. Again, based on King's dad's tweet, I bet they were transferring and Holgorsen talked them into saying this instead, and deciding later.

(09-23-2019 11:44 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 11:39 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 11:02 PM)TripleA Wrote:  No coach in his right mind benches his starters after 4 games, redshirts them, and tanks the current season. That is absolutely insane. You should hope that isn't true, lol.

And if so, before long, there will be an NCAA "Holgorsen mod" to the redshirt rules.

why this is holgs 1st season, and has a ton not in place yet....we currently have 6 players sitting out on transfer rules..extremely few seniors

but only 1 year with his star qb.....this is actually genius and amazing for houston

houston was supposed to be better at every position but qb next season...houston is now better at every position next year

So you think it's brilliant to tank the season so maybe you can be better next year? Man, that is some twisted thinking.

Plus, I don't buy for a second that this was Holgorsen's idea. Again, based on King's dad's tweet, I bet they were transferring and Holgorsen talked them into saying this instead, and deciding later.

You keep making up a scenario that literally isn’t true in order to shoot down the possibility that a coach wouldn’t tank. Sorry but we are tanking and its just a fact.

Can you legit provide a good reason not to tank this year... ill wait because i know you cant. We have no chance of even winning 6 games this year. So why would you lose your best players in a 4 win at best season THAT makes no sense.

I know its old school mentality to always go out and win. But the fact is this is the age of tanking and its proving to work at all levels of sports now. Wether you like it or not our coach is simply starting it at UH.


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(09-23-2019 11:44 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 11:39 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 11:02 PM)TripleA Wrote:  No coach in his right mind benches his starters after 4 games, redshirts them, and tanks the current season. That is absolutely insane. You should hope that isn't true, lol.

And if so, before long, there will be an NCAA "Holgorsen mod" to the redshirt rules.

why this is holgs 1st season, and has a ton not in place yet....we currently have 6 players sitting out on transfer rules..extremely few seniors

but only 1 year with his star qb.....this is actually genius and amazing for houston

houston was supposed to be better at every position but qb next season...houston is now better at every position next year

So you think it's brilliant to tank the season so maybe you can be better next year? Man, that is some twisted thinking.

Plus, I don't buy for a second that this was Holgorsen's idea. Again, based on King's dad's tweet, I bet they were transferring and Holgorsen talked them into saying this instead, and deciding later.

"maybe better"? scary better... houston is completely changing offensive and defensive philosophy that the team is adjusting to this year...next year everyone will know it..that alone is will be will cause major improvement

now add that all 6 sitting out players are defensive players. with everyone coming back
-a top 4 5* LB from bama
-a all-sunbelt DB
-a juco all american db that went to Minnesota for 3 weeks hated and transferred but ncaa still wouldn't give him a waiver
-a 4* ucla grad transfer who has to get a medical redhsirt because he got injured as soon as he got here
- a okstate transfer and a colorado transfer

we lose almost no one and all of these guys are being added...and note we only have 8 players committed so far, meaning we have ships to improve some more

but with all that said QB defines a season, if your qb isnt good it all means nothing,....

and our qb options for next season was the guys who lost to memphis and lost 70-14 vs army...or a true freshmen..best case scenario is the a 4star qb who we are after who hasnt even commited yet and would still be a true freshman

we just went from a 6-6 2019 season & 8-4 2020 (if that, being optimistic)
to a 4-8 2019 season & 10+ win top 25 2020 season....

something any coach would take...coaches tank for the future all the time, just not normally in this way..

"benching the decent senior for the worse freshmen after a 1-3 start" is common...they throw away the season and start building for the future..i see no difference

about your bet
---also the dad isnt with king around the clock, king lives on campus..again when the news came out that king was "transferring" numerous players and people around him said they were with king and he made no mention of him "transferring". To be patient and wait, that the media sources are wrong....i highly doubt holgerson talked him into staying, Holgs inst that type of person..

i can almost guarantee king never wanted to transfer..his dad by himself wanted him to transfer (or thought he was and misspoke)..literally 5 minutes after the dad tweet, he flat out said nothing has been decided to the same media outlet...and said he hadnt talked to holgs yet...id take you up on that bet anyday about holgs forcing him to stay

(09-23-2019 11:25 PM)ChrisLords Wrote:  Seems to me, D'Eriq is saying he's not transferring until Spring semester starts so that he can graduate in the Spring, and then transfer without having to sit out a year.

That's what Josh Jackson did to VT. He entered the portal in late January and made his decision to transfer to MD that Spring all the while he was on a VT scholarship and there was nothing any one could do about it.

I too wouldn't rule out King transferring but let's not also pretend as if King has dominated as we all thought he would... I think head coach has no choice but to shuffle the deck up a bit so why not start with the QB position just to grab everyone's attention that he means business and no one position is safe.

When season done, start rebuilding
Redshrit rule makes early decision
Chasing Frisco bowl or rebuild for Fiesta
No brainer

(09-23-2019 11:47 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 11:44 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 11:39 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 11:02 PM)TripleA Wrote:  No coach in his right mind benches his starters after 4 games, redshirts them, and tanks the current season. That is absolutely insane. You should hope that isn't true, lol.

And if so, before long, there will be an NCAA "Holgorsen mod" to the redshirt rules.

why this is holgs 1st season, and has a ton not in place yet....we currently have 6 players sitting out on transfer rules..extremely few seniors

but only 1 year with his star qb.....this is actually genius and amazing for houston

houston was supposed to be better at every position but qb next season...houston is now better at every position next year

So you think it's brilliant to tank the season so maybe you can be better next year? Man, that is some twisted thinking.

Plus, I don't buy for a second that this was Holgorsen's idea. Again, based on King's dad's tweet, I bet they were transferring and Holgorsen talked them into saying this instead, and deciding later.

You keep making up a scenario that literally isn’t true in order to shoot down the possibility that a coach wouldn’t tank. Sorry but we are tanking and its just a fact.

Can you legit provide a good reason not to tank this year... ill wait because i know you cant. We have no chance of even winning 6 games this year. So why would you lose your best players in a 4 win at best season THAT makes no sense.

I know its old school mentality to always go out and win. But the fact is this is the age of tanking and its proving to work at all levels of sports now. Wether you like it or not our coach is simply starting it at UH.


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I don't give a flying crap whether you're tanking or not. You act like I care what Houston does, lol.

I just think the real story is King and Corbin quit before they used up their year of eligibility, and Holgorsen talked them into the redshirt explanation to postpone the decisions on their part, and hope they change their minds.

My evidence is King's dad's tweet earlier today saying exactly that. Redshirting and transferring.

What evidence do you have otherwise?

P.S. If Holgorsen truly is tanking, I wouldn't be so proud of it, lol.

(09-24-2019 12:29 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 11:47 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 11:44 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 11:39 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 11:02 PM)TripleA Wrote:  No coach in his right mind benches his starters after 4 games, redshirts them, and tanks the current season. That is absolutely insane. You should hope that isn't true, lol.

And if so, before long, there will be an NCAA "Holgorsen mod" to the redshirt rules.

why this is holgs 1st season, and has a ton not in place yet....we currently have 6 players sitting out on transfer rules..extremely few seniors

but only 1 year with his star qb.....this is actually genius and amazing for houston

houston was supposed to be better at every position but qb next season...houston is now better at every position next year

So you think it's brilliant to tank the season so maybe you can be better next year? Man, that is some twisted thinking.

Plus, I don't buy for a second that this was Holgorsen's idea. Again, based on King's dad's tweet, I bet they were transferring and Holgorsen talked them into saying this instead, and deciding later.

You keep making up a scenario that literally isn’t true in order to shoot down the possibility that a coach wouldn’t tank. Sorry but we are tanking and its just a fact.

Can you legit provide a good reason not to tank this year... ill wait because i know you cant. We have no chance of even winning 6 games this year. So why would you lose your best players in a 4 win at best season THAT makes no sense.

I know its old school mentality to always go out and win. But the fact is this is the age of tanking and its proving to work at all levels of sports now. Wether you like it or not our coach is simply starting it at UH.


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I don't give a flying crap whether you're tanking or not. You act like I care what Houston does, lol.

I just think the real story is King and Corbin quit before they used up their year of eligibility, and Holgorsen talked them into the redshirt explanation to postpone the decisions on their part, and hope they change their minds.

My evidence is King's dad's tweet earlier today saying exactly that. Redshirting and transferring.

What evidence do you have otherwise?

P.S. If Holgorsen truly is tanking, I wouldn't be so proud of it, lol.

I'm still torn on what I think is going to happen but the evidence would be all the players saying hes not transferring. Your argument (which I do find plausible) is entirely speculative. I dont think it makes much sense debating what's going to happen when we're going to find out one way or another in a couple months.

(09-24-2019 12:29 AM)TripleA Wrote:  I just think the real story is King and Corbin quit before they used up their year of eligibility, and Holgorsen talked them into the redshirt explanation to postpone the decisions on their part, and hope they change their minds.

My evidence is King's dad's tweet earlier today saying exactly that. Redshirting and transferring.

why are you forcing a fake narrative that has proof that your narrative isnt real

here is a tweet from king, 5minutes after his fathers tweet...saying his fathers tweet is wrong.. he hasnt made any decision like that, and also that he hadnt talked to holgs about it
https://twitter.com/MarkBermanFox26/stat...0086567937

he was back tracking from his dad minutes after his dad said it, hours before he talked to holgs

here is a football players telling us to wait and see what happens after the dad tweets
https://twitter.com/dRoy/status/1176215012425248769
here is another tweet after the information came out
https://twitter.com/dRoy/status/1176249151291625472

you are pushing a very fake narrative that is clearly false...which is what is wrong with this place..you guys would rather live in a lie,than admit you were wrong

also holgs, already said he was trying to redshirt a few starter quality senior players before this game, its unknown if it was planned for kning but he was doing with other players and publicly admitted it

basically saying he was the best rb vs oklahoma, he is good enough to start but we also have 2 other other really good RBs, so just to have mulbah 1 more year, he is going to redhsirt him

well i feel a little better about him not leaving but still won't put it past him.
i wonder if courtney lark will be next. i know coach doesn't like his work ethic but if he can get on the right track that will be nice.

(09-24-2019 12:29 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 11:47 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 11:44 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 11:39 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 11:02 PM)TripleA Wrote:  No coach in his right mind benches his starters after 4 games, redshirts them, and tanks the current season. That is absolutely insane. You should hope that isn't true, lol.

And if so, before long, there will be an NCAA "Holgorsen mod" to the redshirt rules.

why this is holgs 1st season, and has a ton not in place yet....we currently have 6 players sitting out on transfer rules..extremely few seniors

but only 1 year with his star qb.....this is actually genius and amazing for houston

houston was supposed to be better at every position but qb next season...houston is now better at every position next year

So you think it's brilliant to tank the season so maybe you can be better next year? Man, that is some twisted thinking.

Plus, I don't buy for a second that this was Holgorsen's idea. Again, based on King's dad's tweet, I bet they were transferring and Holgorsen talked them into saying this instead, and deciding later.

You keep making up a scenario that literally isn’t true in order to shoot down the possibility that a coach wouldn’t tank. Sorry but we are tanking and its just a fact.

Can you legit provide a good reason not to tank this year... ill wait because i know you cant. We have no chance of even winning 6 games this year. So why would you lose your best players in a 4 win at best season THAT makes no sense.

I know its old school mentality to always go out and win. But the fact is this is the age of tanking and its proving to work at all levels of sports now. Wether you like it or not our coach is simply starting it at UH.


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I don't give a flying crap whether you're tanking or not. You act like I care what Houston does, lol.

I just think the real story is King and Corbin quit before they used up their year of eligibility, and Holgorsen talked them into the redshirt explanation to postpone the decisions on their part, and hope they change their minds.

My evidence is King's dad's tweet earlier today saying exactly that. Redshirting and transferring.

What evidence do you have otherwise?

P.S. If Holgorsen truly is tanking, I wouldn't be so proud of it, lol.

I like how I literally posted a tweet from one of the players that destroys your narrative and then you ignore it and claim i have no evidence. What a time to be alive. Who cares if you post facts if they aren’t facts that “I” like am a right?


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(09-24-2019 12:43 AM)WhoseHouse? Wrote:  

(09-24-2019 12:29 AM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 11:47 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 11:44 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 11:39 PM)pesik Wrote:  why this is holgs 1st season, and has a ton not in place yet....we currently have 6 players sitting out on transfer rules..extremely few seniors

but only 1 year with his star qb.....this is actually genius and amazing for houston

houston was supposed to be better at every position but qb next season...houston is now better at every position next year

So you think it's brilliant to tank the season so maybe you can be better next year? Man, that is some twisted thinking.

Plus, I don't buy for a second that this was Holgorsen's idea. Again, based on King's dad's tweet, I bet they were transferring and Holgorsen talked them into saying this instead, and deciding later.

You keep making up a scenario that literally isn’t true in order to shoot down the possibility that a coach wouldn’t tank. Sorry but we are tanking and its just a fact.

Can you legit provide a good reason not to tank this year... ill wait because i know you cant. We have no chance of even winning 6 games this year. So why would you lose your best players in a 4 win at best season THAT makes no sense.

I know its old school mentality to always go out and win. But the fact is this is the age of tanking and its proving to work at all levels of sports now. Wether you like it or not our coach is simply starting it at UH.


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I don't give a flying crap whether you're tanking or not. You act like I care what Houston does, lol.

I just think the real story is King and Corbin quit before they used up their year of eligibility, and Holgorsen talked them into the redshirt explanation to postpone the decisions on their part, and hope they change their minds.

My evidence is King's dad's tweet earlier today saying exactly that. Redshirting and transferring.

What evidence do you have otherwise?

P.S. If Holgorsen truly is tanking, I wouldn't be so proud of it, lol.

I'm still torn on what I think is going to happen but the evidence would be all the players saying hes not transferring. Your argument (which I do find plausible) is entirely speculative. I dont think it makes much sense debating what's going to happen when we're going to find out one way or another in a couple months.

We literally have nothing else to talk about. Thats how bad are team is lol! We might as well debate it.


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(09-23-2019 02:10 PM)vick mike Wrote:  So Houston is giving up on the season? Seems like an overreaction.

coming from a school that threatens to fire a football coach for going 8-4?
No, not at all.

Prima donna player and butthurt dad quit team.

Let's don't overcomplicate this.

The new feel good narrative on tanking the season? I’f so, all advertisers and ticket holders should be given the opportunity for a refund.

It’s amateur hour in Houston.