(09-23-2019 06:08 PM)vcoog Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 06:05 PM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote:  This just feels weird if I'm a backup to these guys. Basically saying "hey backup, we suck this year, so I'm gonna sit out. You can play the rest of the season and then I'll expect my starting spot back from you in 2020."

Pretty much, yeah. But let’s say tune has a breakout season and ends up 8-4. (Funny how 8-4 is about the best possible scenario now) does king get his spot back next year?

Maybe Dana was seeing him struggle and wanted to change QBs without the drama so convinced him to RS?

Tune would just red shirt next year.


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(09-23-2019 06:19 PM)GimmethatPiratebooty Wrote:  This will end up backfiring some how, some way

Since you said it that makes it gospel.


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(09-23-2019 06:16 PM)vcoog Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 06:15 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 06:08 PM)vcoog Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 06:05 PM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote:  This just feels weird if I'm a backup to these guys. Basically saying "hey backup, we suck this year, so I'm gonna sit out. You can play the rest of the season and then I'll expect my starting spot back from you in 2020."

Pretty much, yeah. But let’s say tune has a breakout season and ends up 8-4. (Funny how 8-4 is about the best possible scenario now) does king get his spot back next year?

Maybe Dana was seeing him struggle and wanted to change QBs without the drama so convinced him to RS?

and offensive yards is offensive yards...if you include his rushing stats king was putting up top tier numbers this year ..his passing dipped a little this season but there is no way i see a coach using Redshirting as an excuse to bench someone

bench someone who had 12 total tds and 2 ints (350 total yards a game) for a guy who has barely played and lost most of the games he played last year. makes no sense

We’re 1-3 and all of the losses have been ugly.

ugly? were beating a top 25 Wazzu for most of the game...we were up 28-7 on tulane...ugly is getting blownout in games it feels like you have no chance like those 42-7 games by others...

holgs actually praised king after the tulane loss, about how he has never lost a game in this way before-- elite 3rd down conversion numbers, huge amount of total offense..opposing qb only completing 7 passes on 31% completion..
his biggest issue was the defense, he said it was unacceptable to have someone score a td in 17 secs on a full field

(09-23-2019 06:14 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  It would be awesome if Houston’s offense improves without him on the field.

Can it possibly get worse ?

(09-23-2019 06:36 PM)SadderBudweiser Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 06:14 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  It would be awesome if Houston’s offense improves without him on the field.

Can it possibly get worse ?

our offense isnt bad..we are putting up decent numbers ..we are 65 out of 130 in scoring offense....it could get much worse

Maybe this is really an academic issue?

I am not sure how the OOC gets dramatically easier next year

Rice is not good, but they are better than PVAMU and they are clearly getting better every game, WSU and north Texas state are the same teams as this year (though north Texas state will not have their Heisman QB but a program like north Texas state reloads they do not rebuild ) and then BYU @ BYU instead of OU

that is not DRAMATICALLY easier especially if BYU has a good season this year which will be determined in the next 4 weeks or so

I am not sure home or away makes much difference for the north Texas state game, but the loss of the Heisman QB will

@WSU makes a difference and @BYU is still a pretty tough game especially if they do well this year (and they are playing pretty well so far this year)

it is less difficult for sure, but it is no cake walk and the argument about all the games in a short period is not really a major argument uH was out of condition period in their games and not adjusting in the second half no matter how many or few games they played

(09-23-2019 06:05 PM)westsidewolf1989 Wrote:  This just feels weird if I'm a backup to these guys. Basically saying "hey backup, we suck this year, so I'm gonna sit out. You can play the rest of the season and then I'll expect my starting spot back from you in 2020."

Thinking if I was on the o-line he is going to have a tough year next year.

Imagine being one of the other seniors on the team. I'd feel slighted not only by the teammates redshirting, but by the coaches who essentially went along with making my senior year a miserable experience.

(09-23-2019 07:14 PM)correcamino Wrote:  Imagine being one of the other seniors on the team. I'd feel slighted not only by the teammates redshirting, but by the coaches who essentially went along with making my senior year a miserable experience.

It wasn’t going to be a great year anyway. The program comes first and if the players dont like it then too bad.


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This is why happens when you let boosters with deep pockets make the hiring and firing decisions.

What a dumpster fire.

Not a fan of this, sounds like a quitter. He’s either transferring schools or throwing in the towel because they lost to Tulane.

Either way he comes off weak.

(09-23-2019 07:17 PM)ArmoredUpKnight Wrote:  Not a fan of this, sounds like a quitter. He’s either transferring schools or throwing in the towel because they lost to Tulane.

Either way he comes off weak.

It was the coach that told him to redshirt.


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(09-23-2019 06:43 PM)Claw Wrote:  Maybe this is really an academic issue?

You must be joking.

(09-23-2019 04:36 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 04:33 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 04:32 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  https://mobile.twitter.com/Joseph_Duarte...40896?s=20

In my opinion this is king trying to help the program which is awesome! He knows this season is lost so why waste your last year? Better to redshirt, learn the offense and really come out swinging next year.


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You are absolutely kidding yourself if you think he’s going to be here next season

Wrong! Here is an official statement from king.

https://mobile.twitter.com/joseph_duarte...49122?s=21


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He can say whatever he wants.... I still think he's gone next season.

(09-23-2019 07:27 PM)invisiblehand Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 04:36 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 04:33 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 04:32 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  https://mobile.twitter.com/Joseph_Duarte...40896?s=20

In my opinion this is king trying to help the program which is awesome! He knows this season is lost so why waste your last year? Better to redshirt, learn the offense and really come out swinging next year.


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You are absolutely kidding yourself if you think he’s going to be here next season

Wrong! Here is an official statement from king.

https://mobile.twitter.com/joseph_duarte...49122?s=21


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He can say whatever he wants.... I still think he's gone next season.

Then he would have just announced he was transferring. He doesn’t need to redshirt in that case. It makes no sense to redshirt when you can just transfer immediately. Even then though he would have to sit out all of next season because he hasn’t graduated yet.


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What an interesting turn of events. Will Tune be the starter at North Texas?

(09-23-2019 07:15 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 07:14 PM)correcamino Wrote:  Imagine being one of the other seniors on the team. I'd feel slighted not only by the teammates redshirting, but by the coaches who essentially went along with making my senior year a miserable experience.

It wasn’t going to be a great year anyway. The program comes first and if the players dont like it then too bad.


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IDK man. It doesn't have to be a great year to have a memorable experience. There's a lot of camaraderie and team bonding that forms during tough times too.

This violates the whole "all for one, one for all" mentality these guys have been taught their entire lives.

(09-23-2019 07:30 PM)correcamino Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 07:15 PM)Westhoff123 Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 07:14 PM)correcamino Wrote:  Imagine being one of the other seniors on the team. I'd feel slighted not only by the teammates redshirting, but by the coaches who essentially went along with making my senior year a miserable experience.

It wasn’t going to be a great year anyway. The program comes first and if the players dont like it then too bad.


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IDK man. It doesn't have to be a great year to have a memorable experience. There's a lot of camaraderie and team bonding that forms during tough times too.

This violates the whole "all for one, one for all" mentality these guys have been taught their entire lives.

That all for one mentality went out years ago. You only have to look at the nfl to see that being a team player doesn’t matter anymore.


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(09-23-2019 06:42 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 06:36 PM)SadderBudweiser Wrote:  

(09-23-2019 06:14 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  It would be awesome if Houston’s offense improves without him on the field.

Can it possibly get worse ?

our offense isnt bad..we are putting up decent numbers ..we are 65 out of 130 in scoring offense....it could get much worse

what pesik said.

Some comparisons:

OKLAHOMA:
vs. Houston: allowed 31 pts., 408 yards, 24 first downs
vs. UCLA: allowed 14 pts., 311 yards, 21 first downs.
Advantage Houston

TULANE
vs. Houston: allowed 31 pts., 533 yards, 28 first downs.
vs. Auburn: allowed 24 pts., 379 yards, 20 first downs.
vs. Fla.Inter: allowed 14 pts., 267 yards, 16 first downs.
Advantage Houston

WASHINGTON STATE
vs. Houston: allowed 24 pts., 367 yards, 22 first downs.
vs. NewMex.St.: allowed 7 pts., 317 yards, 18 first downs.
vs. UCLA: allowed 67 points, 657 yards, 28 first downs.
Advantage UCLA (ha ha) but I think this game was an outlier.