ESPN probably set the time, not the university. I'm pretty convinced it is ESPN trying to push ESPN+ subscriptions, which is whatever to me, it's a business. BYU on the road across the country, at 10am. Big fan base. Too early to go to a bar to watch, if bars even have espn+. Probably earlier than most would like to get together with friends to watch. A lot of ESPN+ subscriptions with be started that day. Also, we are the only noon game on ESPN+.

(09-17-2019 03:31 AM)pono Wrote:  they didn't schedule it at noon for ESPN+. it was scheduled at that time to not conflict with big regional games. i haven't seen week 5 start times yet, but guaranteed OSU and Michigan don't play at noon. that said, this is a game local people would come out to see even if there was a big school game at the same time, imo. i think all games should start 5 pm to 7 pm with homecoming a little earlier.

I'm ok with evading Ohio St. The Buckeye fan base is bigger than ever in Toledo right now. I think we would lose more fans competing with OSU than having the game at noon.

Unfortunately though the Michigan will probably end up at noon. Well there are 2 Big Ten games with no time yet...and BTN usually has a game at noon and 7 I believe. Not sure on that.

(09-17-2019 03:31 AM)pono Wrote:  they didn't schedule it at noon for ESPN+. it was scheduled at that time to not conflict with big regional games. i haven't seen week 5 start times yet, but guaranteed OSU and Michigan don't play at noon. that said, this is a game local people would come out to see even if there was a big school game at the same time, imo. i think all games should start 5 pm to 7 pm with homecoming a little earlier.

Rutgers@Michigan BTN 12:00 pm
Ohio St@Nebraska ABC 7:30 pm

Rutgers vs. Michigan won't move the needle for Toledo. This is selling out.

(09-17-2019 08:04 AM)UofToledoFans Wrote:  Rutgers vs. Michigan won't move the needle for Toledo. This is selling out.

Its what the MAC does, not so sure why we would be surprised at this point

(09-16-2019 04:03 PM)Rocket_Fanatic Wrote:  

(09-16-2019 03:13 PM)PaulJ Wrote:  

(09-16-2019 10:51 AM)Rocket_Fanatic Wrote:  

(09-16-2019 10:46 AM)PTLROCK Wrote:  Darn. I was really looking forward to this game. Now I can’t make it. Noon kick-off for ESPN +, really? This game should be at 7:00 PM. I wonder if they set-up noon, in case it becomes a bigger deal after next weekend.

Again, we seem to bend over to whoever just to get tv coverage. This game could’ve been a sell out with a great atmosphere at night. The only plus is OSU plays Nebraska and Michigan plays Rutgers. As long as the OSU game is 3:30 or later, that’ll help putting butts in the seats. Have to win this Saturday first.

We should not be surprised by now that TV or any other form of media game coverage is the major factor for start time of many UT games, what is best for fans attending is a clear second, plus avoiding OSU and UM who I can only assume will be 330/800p starts that day?? Personally I don't really mind the occasional noon start but can clearly appreciate that it's not ideal for many fans.

If the game was to be televised on ESPN2 or ESPNU or Fox Sports then I’d be ok with it. But ESPN+ isn’t good enough to have attendance and fan experience affected. This is one of several reasons why I don’t consider Mike O’Brien a great AD. We bend over on command for ESPN. I’m tired of it.

Not so sure it would matter who the AD was, pretty sure this type of move and scheduling is driven by the MAC, or any AD who would trade TV coverage for media attention over considering fans who attend, its not surprising given this has been approach by MAC for years

Playing at noon is a huge advantage for UT. This has nothing to do with television and everything to do with home field advantage. West coast teams struggle coming east.


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@BYU 12 #14 Utah 30
@Tenn 26 BYU 29
@BYU 30 USC 27
@BYU. #22 Washington

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(09-17-2019 08:32 AM)indianasniff Wrote:  Playing at noon is a huge advantage for UT. This has nothing to do with television and everything to do with home field advantage. West coast teams struggle coming east.


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I am not so sure you are right on this, our AD and MAC would jump at chance to have a game on TV even it is only ESPN+

If they struggled against Tennessee you all should win going away.

(09-17-2019 10:27 AM)PaulJ Wrote:  

(09-17-2019 08:32 AM)indianasniff Wrote:  Playing at noon is a huge advantage for UT. This has nothing to do with television and everything to do with home field advantage. West coast teams struggle coming east.


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I am not so sure you are right on this, our AD and MAC would jump at chance to have a game on TV even it is only ESPN+

Just about every sporting event under the sun is on ESPN+ ...

(09-16-2019 10:56 PM)utpotts Wrote:  

(09-16-2019 07:32 PM)Babes boy Wrote:  I know a lot of you guys really have a thing about osu and that place up north. But I still think the MAC should partner up with the big ten network. It makes sense to me. We share the same areas the they do. Same time zone and recruiting area. I don’t see a problem with at least checking into this. Who knows what it could bring

Ummmmmmm...... we are not a Big Ten school and their not going to share the money they are raking in.

Move on to a different thought.

It’s not about sharing money. It’s about getting the best deal for for televised games for The University of Toledo and the MAC. I can’t understand why we get stuck on espn + and espn 3 so many times compared to the Mac teams

I guess no one really knows for certain. I think ESPN is mainly self serving, so I surmise it's mainly on them. If it was our choice, then why couldn't the start time have been announced sooner so fans could plan?

(09-17-2019 10:44 AM)Babes boy Wrote:  

(09-16-2019 10:56 PM)utpotts Wrote:  

(09-16-2019 07:32 PM)Babes boy Wrote:  I know a lot of you guys really have a thing about osu and that place up north. But I still think the MAC should partner up with the big ten network. It makes sense to me. We share the same areas the they do. Same time zone and recruiting area. I don’t see a problem with at least checking into this. Who knows what it could bring

Ummmmmmm...... we are not a Big Ten school and their not going to share the money they are raking in.

Move on to a different thought.

It’s not about sharing money. It’s about getting the best deal for for televised games for The University of Toledo and the MAC. I can’t understand why we get stuck on espn + and espn 3 so many times compared to the Mac teams

But it is all about money. That's why the Big Ten Network exists, to make money for the Big Ten and FOX.

Toledo is not nor ever will be a Big Ten School. The Big Ten gains nothing from putting a MAC school on their air unless its playing a Big Ten school. Plus were not playing a Big Ten school until we play Michigan State, which will probably be on the Big Ten Network. The Big Ten gains nothing from the MAC.

(09-17-2019 10:32 AM)FMRocket Wrote:  

(09-17-2019 10:27 AM)PaulJ Wrote:  

(09-17-2019 08:32 AM)indianasniff Wrote:  Playing at noon is a huge advantage for UT. This has nothing to do with television and everything to do with home field advantage. West coast teams struggle coming east.


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I am not so sure you are right on this, our AD and MAC would jump at chance to have a game on TV even it is only ESPN+

Just about every sporting event under the sun is on ESPN+ ...

agreed but appears that it is still attractive to MAC to have their teams playing on there

(09-17-2019 02:02 PM)utpotts Wrote:  

(09-17-2019 10:44 AM)Babes boy Wrote:  

(09-16-2019 10:56 PM)utpotts Wrote:  

(09-16-2019 07:32 PM)Babes boy Wrote:  I know a lot of you guys really have a thing about osu and that place up north. But I still think the MAC should partner up with the big ten network. It makes sense to me. We share the same areas the they do. Same time zone and recruiting area. I don’t see a problem with at least checking into this. Who knows what it could bring

Ummmmmmm...... we are not a Big Ten school and their not going to share the money they are raking in.

Move on to a different thought.

It’s not about sharing money. It’s about getting the best deal for for televised games for The University of Toledo and the MAC. I can’t understand why we get stuck on espn + and espn 3 so many times compared to the Mac teams

But it is all about money. That's why the Big Ten Network exists, to make money for the Big Ten and FOX.

Toledo is not nor ever will be a Big Ten School. The Big Ten gains nothing from putting a MAC school on their air unless its playing a Big Ten school. Plus were not playing a Big Ten school until we play Michigan State, which will probably be on the Big Ten Network. The Big Ten gains nothing from the MAC.

The B10 NETWORK DOES benefit from playing MAC schools because regionally where the channel broadcasts it gets more viewers.

Regionally playing a MAC team gains a bit of attendance over a southern FBS or FCS team. It also yearns to keep it's competitive advantage by consistently winning those games. Like Ohio State winning 25 in a row vs. In State teams keeps them on top. MSU beating up WMU keeps them on top. But the rare occasion like Toledo beating UM or CMU beating MSU is devestating locally recruiting.

The BIG10 also can use the MAC as a grad transfer recruiting tool. WMUs best WR went to MSU just this April.
Other than that, yea the BIG10 gains nothing from the MAC. But what conference does the MAC gain from? No conference gains from another conference... Right?

The P5 landscape is pretty regional. The G5 landscape follows their path and has smaller programs paired with the P5 father conference.

WEST COAST: PAC12, MWC
MIDWEST: BIG, MAC
SOUTH: SEC, SBC
SOUTH/EAST COAST: ACC, AAC, CUSA
WEST/ MIDDLE AMERICA/ TEXAS: BIG12, AAC

(09-17-2019 10:27 AM)PaulJ Wrote:  

(09-17-2019 08:32 AM)indianasniff Wrote:  Playing at noon is a huge advantage for UT. This has nothing to do with television and everything to do with home field advantage. West coast teams struggle coming east.


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I am not so sure you are right on this, our AD and MAC would jump at chance to have a game on TV even it is only ESPN+

ESPN+ is NOT television!!!!!!!
It's a computer page...……..

This should be a gold out... Seeing how we rarely repeat uniform combo's we'll probably rock the Gold helmets with the blue jerseys. Under the sun, let's make the Glass Bowl shine like Boise State and Arizona in 2011 and 2010.