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California vs. Texas
https://www.foxandhoundsdaily.com/2019/0...-wins-out/

Economist article compares Texas and California. It bemoans California's one party politics and lack of middle class.

"...The Economist’s survey closes by quoting Joel Kotkin of Chapman University, who notes that, “the Golden State used to be a rising tide lifting all sorts of boats. Now it is a rising tide lifting a few yachts.” For far too many of those left to paddle for themselves, the problems of living in California are best resolved by packing up and moving someplace else."
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RE: California vs. Texas
I just left San Diego last year.

In my profession it's very difficult to have a geographic restriction in a job search. SD was the only place West of the Rockies I considered. I had very high hopes when I moved there 4 years ago.

Southern CA was probably the best place in the whole world to live in the 80s and early 90s.

But they've passed a ton of laws to resist changes. As a result, it still feels like the 1990s in CA.

It literally felt like I took a time machine 20 years in the future when I'd go visit my parents in Ohio for a few weeks in the summers. Splash parks! A full entrance ramp with room to merge on the highway! Modern playgrounds & libraries for the kids! Coming back to CA for the school year, and people still activate their car alarms and call you "dude" like it's a 90s sitcom.

We took a trip along the CA coast, and several famous tourist stops all made us use port-a-potties. What freaking century are we in?

One stunning example: it's illegal in most southern California cities to build a store over 50,000 square feet. These laws were passed in the 90s to keep WalMart away, but as a result almost no new groceries have been built in the last 20 years (because a modern grocery is 70,000-110,000 square feet). With no fear of new competition, grocers have no incentive to innovate or make capital investments. So they are literally 20-30 years behind the rest of the country in retail. Choices are severely limited, and most stores don't even have any self checkouts! Even grocery delivery came later to CA than anywhere else in the country.
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RE: California vs. Texas
California has some of the most scenic vistas in all of America; and Texas, well, no so much. Land prices is California are astronomical. Texas, not so much. Wealthy people from across the globe buy up California real estate. Texas is largely tumbleweed. Austin area is alright, though.
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(09-14-2019 07:43 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  California has some of the most scenic vistas in all of America; and Texas, well, no so much. Land prices is California are astronomical. Texas, not so much. Wealthy people from across the globe buy up California real estate. Texas is largely tumbleweed. Austin area is alright, though.

Obviously you have never been to Texas. You must get your views from the Fake News York Times.
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(09-14-2019 09:13 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(09-14-2019 07:43 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  California has some of the most scenic vistas in all of America; and Texas, well, no so much. Land prices is California are astronomical. Texas, not so much. Wealthy people from across the globe buy up California real estate. Texas is largely tumbleweed. Austin area is alright, though.

Obviously you have never been to Texas. You must get your views from the Fake News York Times.

Galveston v La Jolla?
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What is the human crap in the streets of Dallas like versus San Fransico? You know, since we are cherry picking and all.
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RE: California vs. Texas
(09-14-2019 10:37 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(09-14-2019 09:13 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(09-14-2019 07:43 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  California has some of the most scenic vistas in all of America; and Texas, well, no so much. Land prices is California are astronomical. Texas, not so much. Wealthy people from across the globe buy up California real estate. Texas is largely tumbleweed. Austin area is alright, though.

Obviously you have never been to Texas. You must get your views from the Fake News York Times.

Galveston v La Jolla?

Needles versus South Padre? Back at ya.
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"https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/16/opinions/texas-key-abolish-electoral-college-alexander/index.html"
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RE: California vs. Texas
(09-14-2019 10:37 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(09-14-2019 09:13 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(09-14-2019 07:43 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  California has some of the most scenic vistas in all of America; and Texas, well, no so much. Land prices is California are astronomical. Texas, not so much. Wealthy people from across the globe buy up California real estate. Texas is largely tumbleweed. Austin area is alright, though.

Obviously you have never been to Texas. You must get your views from the Fake News York Times.

Galveston v La Jolla?

Funny --- largely tumbleweed. Maybe El Paso, maybe Odessa and Wink.

Not a tumbeleweed in sight in the Hill Country.

Not one in the Texas Coastal Plains.

Or for that matter the Piney Woods, or any of east Texas.

Or for that matter Gilmer or any of the Northwest part of the state.

Or for matter anwhere north and east of San Angelo, or east of Roosevelt.

Or east of Del Rio.

Next time you make a broad generalization, I suggest you actually fing put some feet in the place you make the generalization about. That is *before* you make such generalizations. They might make you look stupid otherwise.
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RE: California vs. Texas
(09-16-2019 09:23 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(09-14-2019 10:37 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(09-14-2019 09:13 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(09-14-2019 07:43 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  California has some of the most scenic vistas in all of America; and Texas, well, no so much. Land prices is California are astronomical. Texas, not so much. Wealthy people from across the globe buy up California real estate. Texas is largely tumbleweed. Austin area is alright, though.

Obviously you have never been to Texas. You must get your views from the Fake News York Times.

Galveston v La Jolla?

Funny --- largely tumbleweed. Maybe El Paso, maybe Odessa and Wink.

Not a tumbeleweed in sight in the Hill Country.

Not one in the Texas Coastal Plains.

Or for that matter the Piney Woods, or any of east Texas.

Or for that matter Gilmer or any of the Northwest part of the state.

Or for matter anwhere north and east of San Angelo, or east of Roosevelt.

Or east of Del Rio.

Next time you make a broad generalization, I suggest you actually fing put some feet in the place you make the generalization about. That is *before* you make such generalizations. They might make you look stupid otherwise.

“Tumbleweed is found in every region of Texas except the Piney Woods and Post Oak Savannah. It is most abundant along roads, in irrigated fields and in disturbed areas.”

https://rangeplants.tamu.edu/plant/russi...umbleweed/
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RE: California vs. Texas
(09-16-2019 10:13 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(09-16-2019 09:23 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(09-14-2019 10:37 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(09-14-2019 09:13 PM)bullet Wrote:  
(09-14-2019 07:43 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  California has some of the most scenic vistas in all of America; and Texas, well, no so much. Land prices is California are astronomical. Texas, not so much. Wealthy people from across the globe buy up California real estate. Texas is largely tumbleweed. Austin area is alright, though.

Obviously you have never been to Texas. You must get your views from the Fake News York Times.

Galveston v La Jolla?

Funny --- largely tumbleweed. Maybe El Paso, maybe Odessa and Wink.

Not a tumbeleweed in sight in the Hill Country.

Not one in the Texas Coastal Plains.

Or for that matter the Piney Woods, or any of east Texas.

Or for that matter Gilmer or any of the Northwest part of the state.

Or for matter anwhere north and east of San Angelo, or east of Roosevelt.

Or east of Del Rio.

Next time you make a broad generalization, I suggest you actually fing put some feet in the place you make the generalization about. That is *before* you make such generalizations. They might make you look stupid otherwise.

“Tumbleweed is found in every region of Texas except the Piney Woods and Post Oak Savannah. It is most abundant along roads, in irrigated fields and in disturbed areas.”

https://rangeplants.tamu.edu/plant/russi...umbleweed/

I’ve lived in the gulf coast of Texas my entire life and have never seen a single tumbleweed. They may exist here—but they sure as hell aren’t commonplace.
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Funny, you gloss over your own word of 'largely' --- tumbleweed is amazingly scarce in most parts of Texas.

I suggest you actually make it here and search for some sparkles.

Or just keep flapping your lips with bull****. Your choice.
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RE: California vs. Texas
(09-16-2019 10:33 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(09-16-2019 10:13 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(09-16-2019 09:23 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(09-14-2019 10:37 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(09-14-2019 09:13 PM)bullet Wrote:  Obviously you have never been to Texas. You must get your views from the Fake News York Times.

Galveston v La Jolla?

Funny --- largely tumbleweed. Maybe El Paso, maybe Odessa and Wink.

Not a tumbeleweed in sight in the Hill Country.

Not one in the Texas Coastal Plains.

Or for that matter the Piney Woods, or any of east Texas.

Or for that matter Gilmer or any of the Northwest part of the state.

Or for matter anwhere north and east of San Angelo, or east of Roosevelt.

Or east of Del Rio.

Next time you make a broad generalization, I suggest you actually fing put some feet in the place you make the generalization about. That is *before* you make such generalizations. They might make you look stupid otherwise.

“Tumbleweed is found in every region of Texas except the Piney Woods and Post Oak Savannah. It is most abundant along roads, in irrigated fields and in disturbed areas.”

https://rangeplants.tamu.edu/plant/russi...umbleweed/

I’ve lived in south Texas my entire life and have never seen a single tumbleweed. You don’t have a clue what your talking about.

Welcome to Mensa world.
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On the news in Austin, 80% of people coming here are from Chicago and New York
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(09-16-2019 09:23 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  They might make you look stupid otherwise.

You obviously don't have much posting history with Menses. Stupid posts are his forte.
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(09-14-2019 10:52 AM)bullet Wrote:  https://www.foxandhoundsdaily.com/2019/0...-wins-out/

Economist article compares Texas and California. It bemoans California's one party politics and lack of middle class.

"...The Economist’s survey closes by quoting Joel Kotkin of Chapman University, who notes that, “the Golden State used to be a rising tide lifting all sorts of boats. Now it is a rising tide lifting a few yachts.” For far too many of those left to paddle for themselves, the problems of living in California are best resolved by packing up and moving someplace else."

If they stood alone they would be classified as a fascist state and not a socialist one. In a fascist state its the wealthiest corporations that control the government by simply buying the candidates in the elections by giving them enough to swamp their adversaries in advertising. Then they get most of that back when air time for ads is purchased through one of their companies. The end result is that the average voter has no voice.

Socialists would be urging labor unions in all of those multi-national corporations. This is why if the new left ever seizes control at the national level we will fall under fascist rule instead of socialist rule and the police state will grow as the super wealthy try to buy more and more protection against the rabble.

Neither is worth having, but fascism has always been the bigger enemy of freedom. Socialism/communism is so ineffective they eventually have to liberalize and in doing so they become less totalitarian. Russia has headed partially down this path. China on the other hand is not only fascist but adopted Nazi racial purity laws and policies.
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(09-14-2019 07:43 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  California has some of the most scenic vistas in all of America; and Texas, well, no so much. Land prices is California are astronomical. Texas, not so much. Wealthy people from across the globe buy up California real estate. Texas is largely tumbleweed. Austin area is alright, though.

Dern...you really don't know that much about California, do you? Not all of CA is astronomically priced, just the coastal sections. If you move inland, you get Texas style living. But then again, parts of Texas are quite expensive as well.
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(09-16-2019 10:36 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(09-16-2019 10:33 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(09-16-2019 10:13 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(09-16-2019 09:23 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(09-14-2019 10:37 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Galveston v La Jolla?

Funny --- largely tumbleweed. Maybe El Paso, maybe Odessa and Wink.

Not a tumbeleweed in sight in the Hill Country.

Not one in the Texas Coastal Plains.

Or for that matter the Piney Woods, or any of east Texas.

Or for that matter Gilmer or any of the Northwest part of the state.

Or for matter anwhere north and east of San Angelo, or east of Roosevelt.

Or east of Del Rio.

Next time you make a broad generalization, I suggest you actually fing put some feet in the place you make the generalization about. That is *before* you make such generalizations. They might make you look stupid otherwise.

“Tumbleweed is found in every region of Texas except the Piney Woods and Post Oak Savannah. It is most abundant along roads, in irrigated fields and in disturbed areas.”

https://rangeplants.tamu.edu/plant/russi...umbleweed/

I’ve lived in south Texas my entire life and have never seen a single tumbleweed. You don’t have a clue what your talking about.

Welcome to Mensa world.

I have seen thousands of tumbleweeds....in California. Absolutely demolished one on a highway outside of Bakersfield once....thing blew up like it was hit by a grenade.
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(09-16-2019 10:36 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(09-16-2019 10:33 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(09-16-2019 10:13 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(09-16-2019 09:23 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(09-14-2019 10:37 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  Galveston v La Jolla?

Funny --- largely tumbleweed. Maybe El Paso, maybe Odessa and Wink.

Not a tumbeleweed in sight in the Hill Country.

Not one in the Texas Coastal Plains.

Or for that matter the Piney Woods, or any of east Texas.

Or for that matter Gilmer or any of the Northwest part of the state.

Or for matter anwhere north and east of San Angelo, or east of Roosevelt.

Or east of Del Rio.

Next time you make a broad generalization, I suggest you actually fing put some feet in the place you make the generalization about. That is *before* you make such generalizations. They might make you look stupid otherwise.

“Tumbleweed is found in every region of Texas except the Piney Woods and Post Oak Savannah. It is most abundant along roads, in irrigated fields and in disturbed areas.”

https://rangeplants.tamu.edu/plant/russi...umbleweed/

I’ve lived in south Texas my entire life and have never seen a single tumbleweed. You don’t have a clue what your talking about.

Welcome to Mensa world.

Your argument appears to be with Texas A&M AG extension who I linked in my previous post. Personally, I couldn’t care less. Tumbleweed, in my initial post, is just a visual for the vast nothingness which makes up much of the state. If you’d like to seriously debate the habitat for tumbleweed, then you’ve got your link.
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(09-17-2019 07:42 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(09-16-2019 10:36 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  
(09-16-2019 10:33 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(09-16-2019 10:13 PM)Marc Mensa Wrote:  
(09-16-2019 09:23 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  Funny --- largely tumbleweed. Maybe El Paso, maybe Odessa and Wink.

Not a tumbeleweed in sight in the Hill Country.

Not one in the Texas Coastal Plains.

Or for that matter the Piney Woods, or any of east Texas.

Or for that matter Gilmer or any of the Northwest part of the state.

Or for matter anwhere north and east of San Angelo, or east of Roosevelt.

Or east of Del Rio.

Next time you make a broad generalization, I suggest you actually fing put some feet in the place you make the generalization about. That is *before* you make such generalizations. They might make you look stupid otherwise.

“Tumbleweed is found in every region of Texas except the Piney Woods and Post Oak Savannah. It is most abundant along roads, in irrigated fields and in disturbed areas.”

https://rangeplants.tamu.edu/plant/russi...umbleweed/

I’ve lived in south Texas my entire life and have never seen a single tumbleweed. You don’t have a clue what your talking about.

Welcome to Mensa world.

Your argument appears to be with Texas A&M AG extension who I linked in my previous post. Personally, I couldn’t care less. Tumbleweed, in my initial post, is just a visual for the vast nothingness which makes up much of the state. If you’d like to seriously debate the habitat for tumbleweed, then you’ve got your link.

Take a drive through the central valley of California, and then get back to us about vast nothingness.
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