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RE: Game Day thread: UCLA vs. Cincy
From Pat Ford's article on Yahoo. Perhaps aimed toward Pac 12 audience.

https://sports.yahoo.com/chip-kellys-gre...01682.html

A couple of cherry picked quotes below.

"Kelly credited the Bearcats and their fans after the 24-14 defeat dropped his UCLA record to 3-10. He talked about injuries and academic issues that kept several of his players off the field in this season opener. He mentioned, several times, how young his team is — 48 new players, by his accounting, and a total of 87 freshmen and sophomores."

"I saw a guy who was dealt a difficult hand — but also dealt $23 million over five years to make it better, sooner rather than later. I saw a guy who had to make fundamental changes to his offensive personnel — but in game 13 of the Kelly tenure the Bruins recorded their lowest yardage output since Nov. 3, 2016. I saw a guy who correctly pointed out the quality of his opponent here — but also made it sound like Nippert Stadium is a venue on par with Bryant-Denny or Death Valley in terms of hostility."

Some good quotes in there for us Bearcat fans.
Also, didn't Kelly complain last year about how young his team was? I wonder how long he can get away with that line?
 
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(08-30-2019 08:28 AM)ucbandguy Wrote:  First - Just because Nippert has a big sound system, that does not mean it should be blasting all the time. I was on the 50 yard line, and it was just too loud.

The sound system was playing while the QB's were calling plays. Just NO.

The PA was blasting while the band was playing. NO. This is a college football game. If I want to hear a sound system covering everything, I can go down and watch the bungles. Or find an arena fb game.

Does someone want to start a sound system thread. I will go and rant there too.

Our season tix are in the Bearcat Lair, the sound system is so loud down there your ears bleed. Our crew has been going down to the student section, which is a friggin' blast, since Dantonio was the coach....Nippert at Night is the greatest....UCLA football fans may be the nicest people on the planet. They had a pretty sizable contingent at the game. We spent time before the game with a man and wife that drove from LA to Cincy. They were on a two week vacation, and headed to Nashville then Memphis on their way back home. The guy said " Man, sorry about stealing your basketball coach". All we could reply was "No No No, he's all yours we're good".
 
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RE: Game Day thread: UCLA vs. Cincy
(08-30-2019 10:15 AM)ucbandguy Wrote:  From Pat Ford's article on Yahoo. Perhaps aimed toward Pac 12 audience.

https://sports.yahoo.com/chip-kellys-gre...01682.html

A couple of cherry picked quotes below.

"Kelly credited the Bearcats and their fans after the 24-14 defeat dropped his UCLA record to 3-10. He talked about injuries and academic issues that kept several of his players off the field in this season opener. He mentioned, several times, how young his team is — 48 new players, by his accounting, and a total of 87 freshmen and sophomores."

"I saw a guy who was dealt a difficult hand — but also dealt $23 million over five years to make it better, sooner rather than later. I saw a guy who had to make fundamental changes to his offensive personnel — but in game 13 of the Kelly tenure the Bruins recorded their lowest yardage output since Nov. 3, 2016. I saw a guy who correctly pointed out the quality of his opponent here — but also made it sound like Nippert Stadium is a venue on par with Bryant-Denny or Death Valley in terms of hostility."

Some good quotes in there for us Bearcat fans.
Also, didn't Kelly complain last year about how young his team was? I wonder how long he can get away with that line?

I read this article that compares kelly to Fickell and wonder; do you ever take a retread. Other than Urban Meyers, it appears that these retreads do not have the belly burn as an up and comer.
 
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RE: Game Day thread: UCLA vs. Cincy
Ucla is big and slow on both lines. We're more lean, quick and strong. They really struggled to protect the qb. He had a lot of rushed throws. Freeman's D is the complete opposite of TT's strategy. That said, if i was a defensive lineman who had to lineup against Metz during practice for 4 or 5 weeks of practice, the competition of the Ucla o- line was likely easier.
 
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(08-30-2019 11:22 AM)JUSTGOPLAY Wrote:  Our season tix are in the Bearcat Lair, the sound system is so loud down there your ears bleed. Our crew has been going down to the student section, which is a friggin' blast, since Dantonio was the coach....Nippert at Night is the greatest....UCLA football fans may be the nicest people on the planet. They had a pretty sizable contingent at the game. We spent time before the game with a man and wife that drove from LA to Cincy. They were on a two week vacation, and headed to Nashville then Memphis on their way back home. The guy said " Man, sorry about stealing your basketball coach". All we could reply was "No No No, he's all yours we're good".

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(08-30-2019 08:39 AM)ucbandguy Wrote:  Officials. Does anyone know where they came from?

They seemed to leave their holding calls behind. Especially the UCLA line was engaged in a lot of wrestling holds (UC did some of that too.)

I also found the # of flags picked up interesting. One was a tipped pass, but I have no idea what the others were.

Pac-12 Officials. AAC replay officials - TV announcers said this.
 
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RE: Game Day thread: UCLA vs. Cincy
(08-30-2019 11:22 AM)JUSTGOPLAY Wrote:  
(08-30-2019 08:28 AM)ucbandguy Wrote:  First - Just because Nippert has a big sound system, that does not mean it should be blasting all the time. I was on the 50 yard line, and it was just too loud.

The sound system was playing while the QB's were calling plays. Just NO.

The PA was blasting while the band was playing. NO. This is a college football game. If I want to hear a sound system covering everything, I can go down and watch the bungles. Or find an arena fb game.

Does someone want to start a sound system thread. I will go and rant there too.

Our season tix are in the Bearcat Lair, the sound system is so loud down there your ears bleed. Our crew has been going down to the student section, which is a friggin' blast, since Dantonio was the coach....Nippert at Night is the greatest....UCLA football fans may be the nicest people on the planet. They had a pretty sizable contingent at the game. We spent time before the game with a man and wife that drove from LA to Cincy. They were on a two week vacation, and headed to Nashville then Memphis on their way back home. The guy said " Man, sorry about stealing your basketball coach". All we could reply was "No No No, he's all yours we're good".
Funny one told me "Sorry we took your basketball coach"
I replied "The pleasure is all ours"
 
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RE: Game Day thread: UCLA vs. Cincy
(08-30-2019 11:27 AM)rosewater Wrote:  
(08-30-2019 10:15 AM)ucbandguy Wrote:  From Pat Ford's article on Yahoo. Perhaps aimed toward Pac 12 audience.

https://sports.yahoo.com/chip-kellys-gre...01682.html

A couple of cherry picked quotes below.

"Kelly credited the Bearcats and their fans after the 24-14 defeat dropped his UCLA record to 3-10. He talked about injuries and academic issues that kept several of his players off the field in this season opener. He mentioned, several times, how young his team is — 48 new players, by his accounting, and a total of 87 freshmen and sophomores."

"I saw a guy who was dealt a difficult hand — but also dealt $23 million over five years to make it better, sooner rather than later. I saw a guy who had to make fundamental changes to his offensive personnel — but in game 13 of the Kelly tenure the Bruins recorded their lowest yardage output since Nov. 3, 2016. I saw a guy who correctly pointed out the quality of his opponent here — but also made it sound like Nippert Stadium is a venue on par with Bryant-Denny or Death Valley in terms of hostility."

Some good quotes in there for us Bearcat fans.
Also, didn't Kelly complain last year about how young his team was? I wonder how long he can get away with that line?

I read this article that compares kelly to Fickell and wonder; do you ever take a retread. Other than Urban Meyers, it appears that these retreads do not have the belly burn as an up and comer.

I don't know how you would have said "no" to Chip Kelly. This UCLA job will likely kill Chip Kelly's legacy as a head coach unless things change quickly, but I think most schools would have backed up the Brinks truck for Kelly.

It may turn out that Kelly was only capable of keeping a machine created by Bellotti going at Oregon, but quite a few college coaches go to the NFL, flame out and then come back to college.

He may bust at UCLA, but I think it was still the right move at the time, and Chip Kelly was not a "retread" in the sense that guys like Tubberville, Strong, Sumlin, Reiley and likely Mack Brown were retreads.

Kelly left college football at a time he was considered one of the best in the profession. Retreads seem to be guys that bounce around after being fired.
 
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Kelly has been there 1 season plus 1 game. I’ll give him a couple dozen more games before deciding on how he’s doing.
 
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(08-30-2019 12:08 PM)Dannyboy Wrote:  Kelly has been there 1 season plus 1 game. I’ll give him a couple dozen more games before deciding on how he’s doing.

Yeah big overreaction. We were an 11 win team last season finished top 25 and it was a road game for them.

We should have won by about 14-17 more points, but his Oregon teams were the best the PAC 12 has had since USC in ‘05 and he deserves some contribution to building the Eagles to their super bowl (just like Mark Jackson and Golden State). He’s a good coach. Maybe just too young of a team maybe just the California kids are overrated recruits these days (Not impressed with their QB at all for being a top 75 recruit.
 
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RE: Game Day thread: UCLA vs. Cincy
(08-30-2019 10:15 AM)ucbandguy Wrote:  From Pat Ford's article on Yahoo. Perhaps aimed toward Pac 12 audience.

https://sports.yahoo.com/chip-kellys-gre...01682.html

A couple of cherry picked quotes below.

"Kelly credited the Bearcats and their fans after the 24-14 defeat dropped his UCLA record to 3-10. He talked about injuries and academic issues that kept several of his players off the field in this season opener. He mentioned, several times, how young his team is — 48 new players, by his accounting, and a total of 87 freshmen and sophomores."

"I saw a guy who was dealt a difficult hand — but also dealt $23 million over five years to make it better, sooner rather than later. I saw a guy who had to make fundamental changes to his offensive personnel — but in game 13 of the Kelly tenure the Bruins recorded their lowest yardage output since Nov. 3, 2016. I saw a guy who correctly pointed out the quality of his opponent here — but also made it sound like Nippert Stadium is a venue on par with Bryant-Denny or Death Valley in terms of hostility."

Some good quotes in there for us Bearcat fans.
Also, didn't Kelly complain last year about how young his team was? I wonder how long he can get away with that line?

Forde might not agree, however Nippert at night can be just as loud or hostile as those 2 stadiums.

Kelly is pulling a Butch Jones with the we are young comments. I think BJ rolled that one out every year of his TN tenure. We saw how that one played out.
 
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(08-30-2019 08:39 AM)ucbandguy Wrote:  Officials. Does anyone know where they came from?

They seemed to leave their holding calls behind. Especially the UCLA line was engaged in a lot of wrestling holds (UC did some of that too.)

I also found the # of flags picked up interesting. One was a tipped pass, but I have no idea what the others were.

Officials were Pac 12 and replay booth was American.

I didn’t notice a ton of holds, but I noticed one that was a big miss, IMO. Early in 4th quarter (I believe)it was 3rd and short and 74 held our DE (couldn’t see who) and allowed DTR to run by him and pick up the first.

Overall though, I thought they done an solid job. The Warren “fumble” could have been called a fumble on the field and if it was it wouldn’t have been overturned. Still don’t know whether that was a fumble or not to be honest.
 
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RE: Game Day thread: UCLA vs. Cincy
(08-30-2019 01:08 PM)bearcatmill Wrote:  
(08-30-2019 10:15 AM)ucbandguy Wrote:  From Pat Ford's article on Yahoo. Perhaps aimed toward Pac 12 audience.

https://sports.yahoo.com/chip-kellys-gre...01682.html

A couple of cherry picked quotes below.

"Kelly credited the Bearcats and their fans after the 24-14 defeat dropped his UCLA record to 3-10. He talked about injuries and academic issues that kept several of his players off the field in this season opener. He mentioned, several times, how young his team is — 48 new players, by his accounting, and a total of 87 freshmen and sophomores."

"I saw a guy who was dealt a difficult hand — but also dealt $23 million over five years to make it better, sooner rather than later. I saw a guy who had to make fundamental changes to his offensive personnel — but in game 13 of the Kelly tenure the Bruins recorded their lowest yardage output since Nov. 3, 2016. I saw a guy who correctly pointed out the quality of his opponent here — but also made it sound like Nippert Stadium is a venue on par with Bryant-Denny or Death Valley in terms of hostility."

Some good quotes in there for us Bearcat fans.
Also, didn't Kelly complain last year about how young his team was? I wonder how long he can get away with that line?

Forde might not agree, however Nippert at night can be just as loud or hostile as those 2 stadiums.

Kelly is pulling a Butch Jones with the we are young comments. I think BJ rolled that one out every year of his TN tenure. We saw how that one played out.

According to actual decibel measurements, Nippert was LOUDER than death valley. Which makes sense because you have a bunch of people packed in a relatively small space surrounded by buildings and walls of concrete that are just echoing sound.

https://twitter.com/gobearcats/status/10...29?lang=en
 
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RE: Game Day thread: UCLA vs. Cincy
(08-30-2019 02:25 PM)RuckleSt Wrote:  
(08-30-2019 01:08 PM)bearcatmill Wrote:  
(08-30-2019 10:15 AM)ucbandguy Wrote:  From Pat Ford's article on Yahoo. Perhaps aimed toward Pac 12 audience.

https://sports.yahoo.com/chip-kellys-gre...01682.html

A couple of cherry picked quotes below.

"Kelly credited the Bearcats and their fans after the 24-14 defeat dropped his UCLA record to 3-10. He talked about injuries and academic issues that kept several of his players off the field in this season opener. He mentioned, several times, how young his team is — 48 new players, by his accounting, and a total of 87 freshmen and sophomores."

"I saw a guy who was dealt a difficult hand — but also dealt $23 million over five years to make it better, sooner rather than later. I saw a guy who had to make fundamental changes to his offensive personnel — but in game 13 of the Kelly tenure the Bruins recorded their lowest yardage output since Nov. 3, 2016. I saw a guy who correctly pointed out the quality of his opponent here — but also made it sound like Nippert Stadium is a venue on par with Bryant-Denny or Death Valley in terms of hostility."

Some good quotes in there for us Bearcat fans.
Also, didn't Kelly complain last year about how young his team was? I wonder how long he can get away with that line?

Forde might not agree, however Nippert at night can be just as loud or hostile as those 2 stadiums.

Kelly is pulling a Butch Jones with the we are young comments. I think BJ rolled that one out every year of his TN tenure. We saw how that one played out.

According to actual decibel measurements, Nippert was LOUDER than death valley. Which makes sense because you have a bunch of people packed in a relatively small space surrounded by buildings and walls of concrete that are just echoing sound.

https://twitter.com/gobearcats/status/10...29?lang=en

Death Valley is the nickname for LSU's stadium...so according to that tweet, it actually isn't 03-lmfao
 
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(08-30-2019 08:39 AM)OKIcat Wrote:  
(08-30-2019 08:34 AM)ucbandguy Wrote:  What a great crowd and great student section. I never saw that when I was a student.

Nippert was essentially full by kickoff time. (Not totally, but close.) It would be nice if most were there by the time the band runs down the steps, but that has never happened.

I think the packed, loud stadium did have an effect on the game. Helped energize our guys, and had UCLA looking up and saying wow.

Bolded, Chip Kelly stated this during his brief ESPN interview at halftime; said something to the effect that his young guys got caught up in the emotion of the crowd at times and credited our fans.

Yeah, to my recollection it was unprompted (i.e. he wasn't asked specifically about the crowd, I think the question was about the slow start or miscues.) The first thing he says iirc is that the atmosphere here is "unbelievable" or "incredible" and that he thinks it got to his guys at first although he thinks they were settling in to it (this was at halftime.)
 
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(08-30-2019 02:37 PM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(08-30-2019 02:25 PM)RuckleSt Wrote:  
(08-30-2019 01:08 PM)bearcatmill Wrote:  
(08-30-2019 10:15 AM)ucbandguy Wrote:  From Pat Ford's article on Yahoo. Perhaps aimed toward Pac 12 audience.

https://sports.yahoo.com/chip-kellys-gre...01682.html

A couple of cherry picked quotes below.

"Kelly credited the Bearcats and their fans after the 24-14 defeat dropped his UCLA record to 3-10. He talked about injuries and academic issues that kept several of his players off the field in this season opener. He mentioned, several times, how young his team is — 48 new players, by his accounting, and a total of 87 freshmen and sophomores."

"I saw a guy who was dealt a difficult hand — but also dealt $23 million over five years to make it better, sooner rather than later. I saw a guy who had to make fundamental changes to his offensive personnel — but in game 13 of the Kelly tenure the Bruins recorded their lowest yardage output since Nov. 3, 2016. I saw a guy who correctly pointed out the quality of his opponent here — but also made it sound like Nippert Stadium is a venue on par with Bryant-Denny or Death Valley in terms of hostility."

Some good quotes in there for us Bearcat fans.
Also, didn't Kelly complain last year about how young his team was? I wonder how long he can get away with that line?

Forde might not agree, however Nippert at night can be just as loud or hostile as those 2 stadiums.

Kelly is pulling a Butch Jones with the we are young comments. I think BJ rolled that one out every year of his TN tenure. We saw how that one played out.

According to actual decibel measurements, Nippert was LOUDER than death valley. Which makes sense because you have a bunch of people packed in a relatively small space surrounded by buildings and walls of concrete that are just echoing sound.

https://twitter.com/gobearcats/status/10...29?lang=en

Death Valley is the nickname for LSU's stadium...so according to that tweet, it actually isn't 03-lmfao

I was referring to the original "Death Valley", Clemson's stadium.
 
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(08-30-2019 09:02 AM)dsquare Wrote:  1. Ridder had a nice workmanlike performance. A couple of bad decisions in that throw to the corner that was picked and the almost turnover with the lead in q4 on that awkward pitch to Warren. However, he did have some nice throws.

I haven't heard anybody mention this (including on the broadcast) and we didn't necessarily get the best view, but that pitch sure looked like it was going forward which would have made it an incompletion when Warren dropped it. Hopefully it would have at least been reviewed had UCLA recovered, but I'm not sure why it wasn't looked at even with a UC recovery.
 
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(08-30-2019 11:27 AM)rosewater Wrote:  
(08-30-2019 10:15 AM)ucbandguy Wrote:  From Pat Ford's article on Yahoo. Perhaps aimed toward Pac 12 audience.

https://sports.yahoo.com/chip-kellys-gre...01682.html

A couple of cherry picked quotes below.

"Kelly credited the Bearcats and their fans after the 24-14 defeat dropped his UCLA record to 3-10. He talked about injuries and academic issues that kept several of his players off the field in this season opener. He mentioned, several times, how young his team is — 48 new players, by his accounting, and a total of 87 freshmen and sophomores."

"I saw a guy who was dealt a difficult hand — but also dealt $23 million over five years to make it better, sooner rather than later. I saw a guy who had to make fundamental changes to his offensive personnel — but in game 13 of the Kelly tenure the Bruins recorded their lowest yardage output since Nov. 3, 2016. I saw a guy who correctly pointed out the quality of his opponent here — but also made it sound like Nippert Stadium is a venue on par with Bryant-Denny or Death Valley in terms of hostility."

Some good quotes in there for us Bearcat fans.
Also, didn't Kelly complain last year about how young his team was? I wonder how long he can get away with that line?

I read this article that compares kelly to Fickell and wonder; do you ever take a retread. Other than Urban Meyers, it appears that these retreads do not have the belly burn as an up and comer.

I think that's way too simplistic. How do you define a "retread"? By some definitions/accounts, Fickell was a retread himself.
 
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(08-30-2019 04:02 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  
(08-30-2019 11:27 AM)rosewater Wrote:  
(08-30-2019 10:15 AM)ucbandguy Wrote:  From Pat Ford's article on Yahoo. Perhaps aimed toward Pac 12 audience.

https://sports.yahoo.com/chip-kellys-gre...01682.html

A couple of cherry picked quotes below.

"Kelly credited the Bearcats and their fans after the 24-14 defeat dropped his UCLA record to 3-10. He talked about injuries and academic issues that kept several of his players off the field in this season opener. He mentioned, several times, how young his team is — 48 new players, by his accounting, and a total of 87 freshmen and sophomores."

"I saw a guy who was dealt a difficult hand — but also dealt $23 million over five years to make it better, sooner rather than later. I saw a guy who had to make fundamental changes to his offensive personnel — but in game 13 of the Kelly tenure the Bruins recorded their lowest yardage output since Nov. 3, 2016. I saw a guy who correctly pointed out the quality of his opponent here — but also made it sound like Nippert Stadium is a venue on par with Bryant-Denny or Death Valley in terms of hostility."

Some good quotes in there for us Bearcat fans.
Also, didn't Kelly complain last year about how young his team was? I wonder how long he can get away with that line?

I read this article that compares kelly to Fickell and wonder; do you ever take a retread. Other than Urban Meyers, it appears that these retreads do not have the belly burn as an up and comer.

I think that's way too simplistic. How do you define a "retread"? By some definitions/accounts, Fickell was a retread himself.

For me, a retread is a coach that has a large amount of success at a job. Subsequently they bomb either in the same job or another and quit. They resurface in a "lesser job." I never considered Fickell a retread because he never has been to the top of the mountain. This is why I never supported, on this board, Charlie Strong as a coaching candidate as opposed to Luke Fickell.
 
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(08-30-2019 04:15 PM)rosewater Wrote:  
(08-30-2019 04:02 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  
(08-30-2019 11:27 AM)rosewater Wrote:  
(08-30-2019 10:15 AM)ucbandguy Wrote:  From Pat Ford's article on Yahoo. Perhaps aimed toward Pac 12 audience.

https://sports.yahoo.com/chip-kellys-gre...01682.html

A couple of cherry picked quotes below.

"Kelly credited the Bearcats and their fans after the 24-14 defeat dropped his UCLA record to 3-10. He talked about injuries and academic issues that kept several of his players off the field in this season opener. He mentioned, several times, how young his team is — 48 new players, by his accounting, and a total of 87 freshmen and sophomores."

"I saw a guy who was dealt a difficult hand — but also dealt $23 million over five years to make it better, sooner rather than later. I saw a guy who had to make fundamental changes to his offensive personnel — but in game 13 of the Kelly tenure the Bruins recorded their lowest yardage output since Nov. 3, 2016. I saw a guy who correctly pointed out the quality of his opponent here — but also made it sound like Nippert Stadium is a venue on par with Bryant-Denny or Death Valley in terms of hostility."

Some good quotes in there for us Bearcat fans.
Also, didn't Kelly complain last year about how young his team was? I wonder how long he can get away with that line?

I read this article that compares kelly to Fickell and wonder; do you ever take a retread. Other than Urban Meyers, it appears that these retreads do not have the belly burn as an up and comer.

I think that's way too simplistic. How do you define a "retread"? By some definitions/accounts, Fickell was a retread himself.

For me, a retread is a coach that has a large amount of success at a job. Subsequently they bomb either in the same job or another and quit. They resurface in a "lesser job." I never considered Fickell a retread because he never has been to the top of the mountain. This is why I never supported, on this board, Charlie Strong as a coaching candidate as opposed to Luke Fickell.

Since we are talking west coast college football, Pete Carroll was a pretty good "retread" pick at USC, no?

But back to CLF. Fickell was a very successful DC and became the (interim) Head Football Coach at The Ohio State University for a full season of games and lead them to one of the worst seasons in their recent history. Yes of course I get that there were extenuating circumstances there, but that's kind of my point about trying to define and stereotype "retreads". And it appears Fickell himself considers this his "second act".
 
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