(08-24-2019 08:42 PM)SoMs Eagle Wrote:  All politics aside, he is really not 100%. Kinda feel for him. Hope he or his crew will decide to leave the race. It appears it will only get worse.

You and Warren are probably wishing that. I think he's her most challenging Pol.

(08-25-2019 12:01 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  If you can't even admit that Obama was a great public speaker (uh's aside) then you cant be helped.

Obama's Teleprompter told Him that there were 57 States.

And Obama Believed it.

And did you know that famous "Yes We Can " speech that got Obama so much praise, so stirring, Stolen! From Ma. Gov. Deval Patrick's inaugural speech.

HRC accused Obama of plagiarism. Obama didn't even credit Patrick.

(08-25-2019 12:19 PM)Paul M Wrote:  40 shot, 4 hundred quadrillion at a rally... eh.

fair on one level, but on another level, I'm unaware of anyone trying to ban large gatherings

(08-25-2019 11:32 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  I have a problem with Bidens gaffes just like o have a problem with Trumps. Apparently it's too much to ask for these days for a presidential candidate to be on their game. Sigh. Love him or hate him, at least Obama was a great orator.

Yes, has anyone on this board visited all 57 states?

(08-25-2019 04:36 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

(08-25-2019 11:32 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  I have a problem with Bidens gaffes just like o have a problem with Trumps. Apparently it's too much to ask for these days for a presidential candidate to be on their game. Sigh. Love him or hate him, at least Obama was a great orator.

Yes, has anyone on this board visited all 57 states?

Obama was referring to the Organisation of Islamic Cooperation:

Quote:The Organisation of Islamic Cooperation is an international organization founded in 1969, consisting of 57 member states, with a collective population of over 1.8 billion as of 2015 with 53 countries being Muslim-majority countries. The organization states that it is "the collective voice of the Muslim world" and works to "safeguard and protect the interests of the Muslim world in the spirit of promoting international peace and harmony".[1]

The OIC has permanent delegations to the United Nations and the European Union. The official languages of the OIC are Arabic, English, and French.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organisati...ooperation

Here is the deal though...

When Obama said he visited 57 states, clearly a mistake
When Trump says he has the largest gathering, he's pumping himself up for sure, but it's not really policy.
When Biden says he was called gay, he's similarly pumping up his 'cred' with a crowd.
When Biden says 40 were shot, it's hard for me to believe that was a simple mistake (possible but not likely) or that he was trying to make himself look good (doesn't relate to him). I believe that was an intentional mis-statement designed to impact/push policy. Maybe not... but I think if it were a simple mistake, he would have said so. Obama didn't need to because it was obvious. Nobody is so poorly informed that they think there are 57 states. LOTS of people are so poorly informed that they'd think that 40 people were shot at Kent state. I didn't know (I knew 40 weren't killed) and I'm relatively well informed.

Ohio National Guard must have had a really bad batch of 5.56 NATO bullets to hit 40 and only have a 10% kill ratio. Even bad aim can't explain that one away.

Shiate, anyone can sound eloquent if you're staring at a teleprompter. Even Elmer Fudd, with apologies to him for comparing him to Oblunder.

Probably read it off a script and misspoke. This kid of schit happens all the time. Not going to rip him for it. Id bet he knew that 40 did not get shot at KS. Regardless...He is a feckless, weak career politician that I would never vote for.

(08-26-2019 08:48 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Probably read it off a script and misspoke. This kid of schit happens all the time. Not going to rip him for it. Id bet he knew that 40 did not get shot at KS. Regardless...He is a feckless, weak career politician that I would never vote for.

I'm not ripping him (not that you said that I did...) but I wonder if it was an honest mistake by him, or even his speech writer or teleprompter writer... or if it was intentional... whether they intentionally said 40 and hoped nobody would notice... or if they didn't know and guessed 40, planning on fact-checking later and didn't.

If the latter, and that's about as much credit as I can give here... but it still speaks to the idea that the left is so focused on gun control that they can't help but believe that these things are far worse than they actually were. I mean, it's hard to confuse 40 with 9.

(08-25-2019 11:32 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  I have a problem with Bidens gaffes just like o have a problem with Trumps. Apparently it's too much to ask for these days for a presidential candidate to be on their game. Sigh. Love him or hate him, at least Obama was a great orator.

it the bulk of the decisions made were in favor of "We The People", I wouldn't give a shite if he spoke after having a laryngectomy...

disclaimer: do not confuse "We The People" by offering increased handouts with less incentive to right the ship of the poor...

the cucks on the left need to figure this part of the equation out soon or mire in the moo patties they so embrace...

(08-26-2019 08:48 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Probably read it off a script and misspoke. This kid of schit happens all the time. Not going to rip him for it. Id bet he knew that 40 did not get shot at KS. Regardless...He is a feckless, weak career politician that I would never vote for.

However, if someone put a gun to my head and told me to choose one dem for whom to vote it would have to be Joe.

(08-27-2019 04:38 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(08-25-2019 11:32 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  I have a problem with Bidens gaffes just like o have a problem with Trumps. Apparently it's too much to ask for these days for a presidential candidate to be on their game. Sigh. Love him or hate him, at least Obama was a great orator.

it the bulk of the decisions made were in favor of "We The People", I wouldn't give a shite if he spoke after having a laryngectomy...

disclaimer: do not confuse "We The People" by offering increased handouts with less incentive to right the ship of the poor...

the cucks on the left need to figure this part of the equation out soon or mire in the moo patties they so embrace...

Joe Biden Is 'Not Going Nuts,' According to Joe Biden

Former Vice President Joe Biden is hopping on the defensive.

After months of gaffes on the 2020 campaign trail prompting even his brain surgeon to chime in and defend his mind, Biden made a pointed comment about the state of his brain over the weekend. "I want to be clear, I’m not going nuts," Biden said during a campaign rally in New Hampshire — a comment that surely extended beyond the confusion he was trying to clear up at the time, the Los Angeles Times reports.

Biden made the declaration while speaking to supporters at New Hampshire's Loon Lake, defending his inability to remember just where he'd spoken at Dartmouth College a few hours earlier. "I'm not sure whether it was the medical school or where the hell I spoke. But it was on the campus," he said, looking at the gathered reporters as he did it, per the Times.
https://theweek.com/speedreads/861039/jo...going-nuts

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articl...41096.html

Obama spying and his son's special deals are leadweights on Biden for a general election. With the spying, he was either involved or he was an empty suit who did nothing. His son's deals and threats against Ukraine investigating them are the height of corruption.

His apparently declining mental state is only one of his problems.

Quote:"I want to be clear, I’m not going nuts," Biden said during a campaign rally in New Hampshire — a comment that surely extended beyond the confusion he was trying to clear up at the time, the Los Angeles Times reports.

This is Biden’s “I’m not a witch” moment. He is becoming an object of pity more than ridicule.

(08-26-2019 08:48 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Probably read it off a script and misspoke. This kid of schit happens all the time. Not going to rip him for it. Id bet he knew that 40 did not get shot at KS. Regardless...He is a feckless, weak career politician that I would never vote for.

He said this stuff was life altering to him. He's inflated it to 40 in his own mind. So yes, I think he believed it, not just something he miststated.

(08-25-2019 12:01 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  If you can't even admit that Obama was a great public speaker (uh's aside) then you cant be helped.

If you can't admit Trump is a great public speaker in a different style, then you can't be helped.

Actually Reagan and JFK are the only great public speakers as president in my lifetime. There are others who have varying degrees of talent. Obama and Trump are both good in their own way. Bush 41, Ford, Carter and LBJ weren't particularly good. Bush 43 and Clinton had some talents.

(08-24-2019 07:55 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-24-2019 07:49 PM)Ohio Poly Wrote:  There were more students shot than the 4 that died.

But IIRC, substantially fewer than 40.

(08-27-2019 12:29 PM)bullet Wrote:  

(08-25-2019 12:01 PM)JDTulane Wrote:  If you can't even admit that Obama was a great public speaker (uh's aside) then you cant be helped.

If you can't admit Trump is a great public speaker in a different style, then you can't be helped.

Lol. And what style is that?