Miami has looked in over their head most of the game, but Florida has self-destructed so much and so spectacularly that Miami has the lead at the half. That Miami drive that went 90 yards before the half was successful but just pained and bumbly stumbly all the way. Few plays were easy or fluid or natural or as it was drawn up. Appropriate it took a tipped ball to get it into the endzone.

Miami has a chance to widen their lead.

Miami's OL got torched. The longer the game went on the higher the flame. The blueprint on Miami is clear: clog the middle, assault off the ends, dare the newbie to beat you deep in the 3-4 seconds before the ends cave in.

Lastly, there is no way on Earth that Florida is #8.

(08-24-2019 09:52 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Lastly, there is no way on Earth that Florida is #8.

In fairness to Florida and Miami, both had to open against a talented opponent with no warmup games.

Diaz and staff made some really curious decisions on 4th down. Not sold on their QB. Stupid to annoit them into the game at Charlotte. They should improve but the Coastal is wide open.

Losing Greenard is our biggest loss from last season. Granthems defense seems to be holding form, missing tackles & giving up 3/4 & forevers.


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(08-24-2019 10:06 PM)TexanMark Wrote:  Diaz and staff made some really curious decisions on 4th down. Not sold on their QB. Stupid to annoit them into the game at Charlotte. They should improve but the Coastal is wide open.

Haven't seen Virginia Tech play yet.

(08-24-2019 10:01 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-24-2019 09:52 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Lastly, there is no way on Earth that Florida is #8.

In fairness to Florida and Miami, both had to open against a talented opponent with no warmup games.

In fairness you had a Florida QB directly responsible for 3 ghastly turnovers and a Florida secondary that couldn't cover their butt with a carpet, let alone the receivers. The MVP for the Gators was the entire Defensive front line that dictated terms to the Miami offense and its anemic running game.

Meanwhile the Gator's offense consisted of 3 big plays and not much else. Their running game may have been every bit as, or more, anemic than Miami's. If this is a veteran QB for Florida they lose at least 4 games. The head game wasn't there either for mistake prone DB's.

This wasn't a classic Florida / Miami game and the Big 12 officiating crew was spasmodic and bad both ways. Too many holds not called in the first half, bizarre no calls both ways, and then they emphatically insert themselves in the game at crunch time, but again spasmodically. In the last 3 minutes the Gators tried on 4 occasions to give Miami the game and Miami refused to accept it.

IMO, both squads will win more than they lose and both will improve some. But the inability of both to run the ball is going to hurt them against above average competition.

Nobody won this game. Florida just managed not to lose.

(08-24-2019 10:41 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-24-2019 10:01 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-24-2019 09:52 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Lastly, there is no way on Earth that Florida is #8.

In fairness to Florida and Miami, both had to open against a talented opponent with no warmup games.

In fairness you had a Florida QB directly responsible for 3 ghastly turnovers and a Florida secondary that couldn't cover their butt with a carpet, let alone the receivers. The MVP for the Gators was the entire Defensive front line that dictated terms to the Miami offense and its anemic running game.

Meanwhile the Gator's offense consisted of 3 big plays and not much else. Their running game may have been every bit as, or more, anemic than Miami's. If this is a veteran QB for Florida they lose at least 4 games. The head game wasn't there either for mistake prone DB's.

This wasn't a classic Florida / Miami game and the Big 12 officiating crew was spasmodic and bad both ways. Too many holds not called in the first half, bizarre no calls both ways, and then they emphatically insert themselves in the game at crunch time, but again spasmodically. In the last 3 minutes the Gators tried on 4 occasions to give Miami the game and Miami refused to accept it.

IMO, both squads will win more than they lose and both will improve some. But the inability of both to run the ball is going to hurt them against above average competition.

Nobody won this game. Florida just managed not to lose.

I agree with all this, but only add that because this was a "cold open" for both, and extra early at that, there is a chance one or both could get significantly better by the time conference play arrives.

(08-24-2019 11:27 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-24-2019 10:41 PM)JRsec Wrote:  

(08-24-2019 10:01 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(08-24-2019 09:52 PM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  Lastly, there is no way on Earth that Florida is #8.

In fairness to Florida and Miami, both had to open against a talented opponent with no warmup games.

In fairness you had a Florida QB directly responsible for 3 ghastly turnovers and a Florida secondary that couldn't cover their butt with a carpet, let alone the receivers. The MVP for the Gators was the entire Defensive front line that dictated terms to the Miami offense and its anemic running game.

Meanwhile the Gator's offense consisted of 3 big plays and not much else. Their running game may have been every bit as, or more, anemic than Miami's. If this is a veteran QB for Florida they lose at least 4 games. The head game wasn't there either for mistake prone DB's.

This wasn't a classic Florida / Miami game and the Big 12 officiating crew was spasmodic and bad both ways. Too many holds not called in the first half, bizarre no calls both ways, and then they emphatically insert themselves in the game at crunch time, but again spasmodically. In the last 3 minutes the Gators tried on 4 occasions to give Miami the game and Miami refused to accept it.

IMO, both squads will win more than they lose and both will improve some. But the inability of both to run the ball is going to hurt them against above average competition.

Nobody won this game. Florida just managed not to lose.

I agree with all this, but only add that because this was a "cold open" for both, and extra early at that, there is a chance one or both could get significantly better by the time conference play arrives.

It's certainly possible that what you say could happen, but I usually see more potential in talented players. I just didn't see the talent there on either side offensively. Florida had a slight edge in speed at a few positions.

I'm currently watching the Hawaii game. No defense either way. It's like watching arena ball.

The most enjoyable sports of the day was provided by the Little League World Series National and International finals. Curacao vs Louisiana for the Championship.

I just wish Herbstreit and Fowler would level with the American people and out with it...

"WOW. BOTH THESE TEAMS REALLY SUCK."

I thought it a lousy game between two bad, fundamentally poor, ill disciplined teams.

(08-25-2019 09:49 AM)TerryD Wrote:  I thought it a lousy game between two bad, fundamentally poor, ill disciplined teams.

I would add poorly coached but the display from Arizona last night blew both Miami and Florida out of the water.

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(08-25-2019 09:49 AM)TerryD Wrote:  I thought it a lousy game between two bad, fundamentally poor, ill disciplined teams.

ND can fell free to play like that in their opener.


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