Bottom line, arm yourselves and take the time to learn firearms and firearm safety, and practice practice practice. If you're able, take advanced handgun classes and work on situational awareness at all times.

(08-04-2019 08:27 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  

We're at 83 deaths so far in 2019. There were 102 deaths in 2018. The last line in the top graph is 2017.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ma...ted_States

Homicide has dropped like a rock since Clinton.

Cernovich claims to have found a link between the Dayton shooter and a left-wing “journalist” that writes for a soros-funded antifa blog, whose schtick is to write out of context hit pieces on right-wing content creators in attempt to get them deplatformed.

I went to his account and sure enough, his mentions are flooded with screenshots of the tweets he’s been deleting.

(08-04-2019 08:27 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  

We're at 83 deaths so far in 2019. There were 102 deaths in 2018. The last line in the top graph is 2017.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ma...ted_States

Actual assault weapons were banned in 1986 you stupid ass partisan ****.

(08-04-2019 06:24 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  I am a gun enthusiast and CCW holder, but I would like to know your thoughts on the continued legality of drum magazines.

Because the Second Amendment wasn't written for hunting or target shooting. It was written by mean who had just led the then infant nation through a war with an oppressive government who tried to curtail the rights of citizens, including the right to bear arms, so that when future citizens were facing another oppressive government they would have the ability to fight back. We've surrendered enough of our rights in the false pursuit of safety and it hasn't worked. I'll be damned if I'll surrender any more.

(08-04-2019 09:15 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-04-2019 08:27 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  

We're at 83 deaths so far in 2019. There were 102 deaths in 2018. The last line in the top graph is 2017.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ma...ted_States

Actual assault weapons were banned in 1986 you stupid ass partisan ****.

+1,000,000,000

(08-04-2019 09:19 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-04-2019 06:24 PM)bobdizole Wrote:  I am a gun enthusiast and CCW holder, but I would like to know your thoughts on the continued legality of drum magazines.

Because the Second Amendment wasn't written for hunting or target shooting. It was written by mean who had just led the then infant nation through a war with an oppressive government who tried to curtail the rights of citizens, including the right to bear arms, so that when future citizens were facing another oppressive government they would have the ability to fight back. We've surrendered enough of our rights in the false pursuit of safety and it hasn't worked. I'll be damned if I'll surrender any more.

2nd Amendment doesn’t state right to bear arms to kill game. It also says it shall not be infringed.

(08-04-2019 09:15 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-04-2019 08:27 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  

We're at 83 deaths so far in 2019. There were 102 deaths in 2018. The last line in the top graph is 2017.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ma...ted_States

Actual assault weapons were banned in 1986 you stupid ass partisan ****.

Go to wikipedia and complain to them.

Care to offer up a solution or do you just want to insult people?

(08-04-2019 09:04 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Cernovich claims to have found a link between the Dayton shooter and a left-wing “journalist” that writes for a soros-funded antifa blog, whose schtick is to write out of context hit pieces on right-wing content creators in attempt to get them deplatformed.

I went to his account and sure enough, his mentions are flooded with screenshots of the tweets he’s been deleting.

Someone on Reddit claimed that 6 of the 9 victims in Dayton were black, and then the shooter first killed his sister and her black boyfriend in a car before the bar shootings. I haven't seen that confirmed in the media yet, but if that's true, I suspect the shooter had a vendetta that was more racially driven and not politically driven.

Either way, it's disgusting. I'm not saying he wasn't a liberal - I know his sister was.

(08-04-2019 09:32 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  

(08-04-2019 09:04 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Cernovich claims to have found a link between the Dayton shooter and a left-wing “journalist” that writes for a soros-funded antifa blog, whose schtick is to write out of context hit pieces on right-wing content creators in attempt to get them deplatformed.

I went to his account and sure enough, his mentions are flooded with screenshots of the tweets he’s been deleting.

Someone on Reddit claimed that 6 of the 9 victims in Dayton were black, and then the shooter first killed his sister and her black boyfriend in a car before the bar shootings. I haven't seen that confirmed in the media yet, but if that's true, I suspect the shooter had a vendetta that was more racially driven and not politically driven.

Either way, it's disgusting. I'm not saying he wasn't a liberal - I know his sister was.

He was a far left satanist.

(08-04-2019 09:28 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  

(08-04-2019 09:15 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-04-2019 08:27 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  

We're at 83 deaths so far in 2019. There were 102 deaths in 2018. The last line in the top graph is 2017.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ma...ted_States

Actual assault weapons were banned in 1986 you stupid ass partisan ****.

Go to wikipedia and complain to them.

Care to offer up a solution or do you just want to insult people?

Well the fact that you use Wikipedia as a source says all that needs to be said about that. Doesn't change the fact that your stupid ass doesn't know what an actual assault rifle is.


There are no solutions. Living in a free society involves risks and this is one of them. Your desire for safety shouldn't infringe upon my Constitutional rights. If you don't like guns in the hands of citizens then move to a country that doesn't allow them because this one does.

(08-04-2019 09:33 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-04-2019 09:28 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  

(08-04-2019 09:15 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(08-04-2019 08:27 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  

We're at 83 deaths so far in 2019. There were 102 deaths in 2018. The last line in the top graph is 2017.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ma...ted_States

Actual assault weapons were banned in 1986 you stupid ass partisan ****.

Go to wikipedia and complain to them.

Care to offer up a solution or do you just want to insult people?

Well the fact that you use Wikipedia as a source says all that needs to be said about that. Doesn't change the fact that your stupid ass doesn't know what an actual assault rifle is.


There are no solutions. Living in a free society involves risks and this is one of them. Your desire for safety shouldn't infringe upon my Constitutional rights. If you don't like guns in the hands of citizens then move to a country that doesn't allow them because this one does.

And the beati downs continue...

(08-04-2019 08:27 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  

We're at 83 deaths so far in 2019. There were 102 deaths in 2018. The last line in the top graph is 2017.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ma...ted_States

Obsession with mass shootings is rather odd

The amount of death from homicides (all types) dwarfs mass shootings, yet they dont receive the attention....

Why is that?

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(08-04-2019 09:43 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(08-04-2019 08:27 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  

We're at 83 deaths so far in 2019. There were 102 deaths in 2018. The last line in the top graph is 2017.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ma...ted_States

Obsession with mass shootings is rather odd

The amount of death from homicides (all types) dwarfs mass shootings, yet they dont receive the attention....

Why is that?

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They get better ratings and more clicks

(08-04-2019 09:43 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(08-04-2019 08:27 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  

We're at 83 deaths so far in 2019. There were 102 deaths in 2018. The last line in the top graph is 2017.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ma...ted_States

Obsession with mass shootings is rather odd

The amount of death from homicides (all types) dwarfs mass shootings, yet they dont receive the attention....

Why is that?

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He is a Nazi that would kill you given the opportunity.

(08-04-2019 09:43 PM)maximus Wrote:  

(08-04-2019 08:27 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  

We're at 83 deaths so far in 2019. There were 102 deaths in 2018. The last line in the top graph is 2017.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ma...ted_States

Obsession with mass shootings is rather odd

The amount of death from homicides (all types) dwarfs mass shootings, yet they dont receive the attention....

Why is that?

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Honest answer?

The left can't make political hay when blacks kill blacks.

Did you see these two mass shootings in the same city on the news?

Of course not. The left can't politicize killings when it's a failure of the policies they have had in place for generations causing them.

(08-04-2019 04:09 PM)IAH Wrote:  

(08-04-2019 04:01 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(08-04-2019 03:44 PM)IAH Wrote:  I don’t think you can just assume it would not stop some of these guys. And of course I agree that it would not stop all of them.

Also you cannot just assume all of these guys would find a different way of killing a bunch of people if they are not able to buy a gun.

I know it would affect law abiding citizens more... but so does say airport security. I mean , how mean law abiding citizens go through security before we catch a nut case.

There is very little reason to think it would deter most of these cases. They are typically very calculated and premeditated, and the perps have thought long and hard about how they are going to do it and why they are doing it. Most of them have manifestos and have been building to their attacks for many months if not years.

Such people are not going to be deterred by background checks or banning AR rifles and its absurd to pretend they will be.

I don’t think you can put all these guys in the same category. And I don’t think we can assume we know for sure how many of these cases this type of policy would or would not stop. And I am not a expert, I came up with those examples in about 30 seconds.

Ok, that’s find, this is a discussion.

So with a little (or more) time to mull what would you suggest?

As I said, all ears.

I’ve heard no more gun factories, like they don’t or wouldn’t exist in France, England Spain or RUSSIA!!! Or be smuggled in from Mejico or Canada, like the booze during the last prohibition.

Without closing borders, how do we prevent that? How do we prevent the Coke, Meth, Fetynal (sp)? Etc.

I hear a chorus of BandAids and no real solutions. Just a cry of “WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING” largely from the Beta fans.

Bring answers, not questions.

(08-04-2019 07:32 PM)Kronke Wrote:  

(08-04-2019 04:42 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  
Heavy.com
@HeavySan
· 35m
In his Twitter profile, Connor Betts, the 24-year-old suspected gunman in the Dayton mass shooting, wrote, "he/him / anime fan / metalhead / leftist / i'm going to hell and i'm not coming back." (link: http://bit.ly/2KpcrCL) bit.ly/2KpcrCL

Dayton is about to be memory holed.

I hope Newsbusters is on this. They need to track El Paso and Dayton coverage up to the discovery that the Dayton shooter is a self-admitted leftist, and how that ratio changes from that point on.

(08-04-2019 09:32 PM)Fort Bend Owl Wrote:  

(08-04-2019 09:04 PM)Kronke Wrote:  Cernovich claims to have found a link between the Dayton shooter and a left-wing “journalist” that writes for a soros-funded antifa blog, whose schtick is to write out of context hit pieces on right-wing content creators in attempt to get them deplatformed.

I went to his account and sure enough, his mentions are flooded with screenshots of the tweets he’s been deleting.

Someone on Reddit claimed that 6 of the 9 victims in Dayton were black, and then the shooter first killed his sister and her black boyfriend in a car before the bar shootings. I haven't seen that confirmed in the media yet, but if that's true, I suspect the shooter had a vendetta that was more racially driven and not politically driven.

Either way, it's disgusting. I'm not saying he wasn't a liberal - I know his sister was.

Well, if some guy on reddit said..

Twitter has now suspended the account that Cernovich and Heavy had been investigating.

That’s the problem with fake news, we have to rely on citizen journalism when a story doesn’t fit the narrative. If he was a Trump supporter, CNN would had already confirmed everything Cernovich and Heavy have reported.

(08-04-2019 08:32 PM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(08-04-2019 04:09 PM)IAH Wrote:  

(08-04-2019 04:01 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(08-04-2019 03:44 PM)IAH Wrote:  I don’t think you can just assume it would not stop some of these guys. And of course I agree that it would not stop all of them.

Also you cannot just assume all of these guys would find a different way of killing a bunch of people if they are not able to buy a gun.

I know it would affect law abiding citizens more... but so does say airport security. I mean , how mean law abiding citizens go through security before we catch a nut case.

There is very little reason to think it would deter most of these cases. They are typically very calculated and premeditated, and the perps have thought long and hard about how they are going to do it and why they are doing it. Most of them have manifestos and have been building to their attacks for many months if not years.

Such people are not going to be deterred by background checks or banning AR rifles and its absurd to pretend they will be.

I don’t think you can put all these guys in the same category. And I don’t think we can assume we know for sure how many of these cases this type of policy would or would not stop. And I am not a expert, I came up with those examples in about 30 seconds.

Which should give you pause to consider the foolishness of your statements.

What I meant was , that someone with more expertise would come up with better solutions