(07-29-2019 01:00 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 12:53 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 12:40 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  have y'all noticed how Orange man is making the entire progressive/Democratic side defend the indefensible?

He has made them defend the Squad tooth and nail;

he is now making them defend the implied subject of 60 years of Democratic rule of Baltimore with the obvious results from the last three years, including the epicenter of West Baltimore.

The Left is now seemingly "in its 3rd straight year of successive 5 minute hate cycles."

I don't look at the tweet from Trump describing Cummings' district as racist by itself.

I do, however, agree that the pattern of using that type of language only to describe areas where primarily POC reside is troubling.

It seems to be another example of Trump walking the line carefully. He tends to push the limits of "acceptable" speech while still punching out against his enemies and thereby firing up his base.

The overwhelming majority of inner-city neighborhoods that can aptly be described that way are populated by POC, so it stands to reason that when that when applied, that phrase will usually be applied to a POC neighborhood.

(Of course, nobody here has shown that Trump has used that phrase repeatedly. Second request.)

Oh, I missed that request to provide examples of Trump using language like "rat infested" when talking about POC. Here you go (these come from the word search for "infest" on Trump's twitter):

1) Calling Omar, AOC, etc to go back to the "crime infested places from which they came."

2) Telling John Lewis to focus on his "crime infested" district and wondering why he doesn't focus on the "burning and crime infested inner-cities of the US."

3) Complaining about "sending thousands of ill-trained soldiers into Ebola infested areas."

4) Talking about sanctuary cities in California and how they are a "ridiculous, crime ingested, and breeding concept"

5) Railing against how illegal immigrants "pour into and infest our country" (which I think we've talked about on the board before).

6) Talks of an "infestation" of MS-13 gangs

Trump has been targeted and criticized by people of all different colors, but when he lashes out at them, he doesn't use dehumanizing terms like "infest" to combat their claims.

edit: 93 provided the clip I had seen that resulted in me doing some Twitter searching and finding a few other examples.

(07-29-2019 01:07 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 01:00 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 12:53 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 12:40 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  have y'all noticed how Orange man is making the entire progressive/Democratic side defend the indefensible?

He has made them defend the Squad tooth and nail;

he is now making them defend the implied subject of 60 years of Democratic rule of Baltimore with the obvious results from the last three years, including the epicenter of West Baltimore.

The Left is now seemingly "in its 3rd straight year of successive 5 minute hate cycles."

I don't look at the tweet from Trump describing Cummings' district as racist by itself.

I do, however, agree that the pattern of using that type of language only to describe areas where primarily POC reside is troubling.

It seems to be another example of Trump walking the line carefully. He tends to push the limits of "acceptable" speech while still punching out against his enemies and thereby firing up his base.

The overwhelming majority of inner-city neighborhoods that can aptly be described that way are populated by POC, so it stands to reason that when that when applied, that phrase will usually be applied to a POC neighborhood.

(Of course, nobody here has shown that Trump has used that phrase repeatedly. Second request.)

There are plenty of white-majority neighborhoods that can be described that way if one chose to do so.

This clip points out the pattern of language that Trump uses:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_conti...YANRUos8Hg

Yes, that example of using the word 'infested' is such amazing proof. Im speechless. /sarcasm off

Is 'infested' now a racial word now? When will 'apple' become one?

Yep, the orange man is making the left quintuple down on that race card.

93, when a district is in the top 2 percentile of violent crime nationally, is it now improper to call it 'crime infested'? Please do tell how those areas should be termed to adhere to the double good speak protocol these days?

Considering every gd city on the Orkin top 10 rat infested list is, in fact, a democratic stronghold, what *should* the proper terminology be?

Detroit, St Louis, Oakland, Atlanta, Baltimore, Cleveland are all in the top 10 of the most dangerous cities crime wise. other smaller ones include Stockton. Memphis, and Birmingham.

Philly and Newark reside just outside the list.

What should one call those places? Do you see a common thread amongst them?

(07-29-2019 01:45 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 01:07 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 01:00 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 12:53 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 12:40 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  have y'all noticed how Orange man is making the entire progressive/Democratic side defend the indefensible?

He has made them defend the Squad tooth and nail;

he is now making them defend the implied subject of 60 years of Democratic rule of Baltimore with the obvious results from the last three years, including the epicenter of West Baltimore.

The Left is now seemingly "in its 3rd straight year of successive 5 minute hate cycles."

I don't look at the tweet from Trump describing Cummings' district as racist by itself.

I do, however, agree that the pattern of using that type of language only to describe areas where primarily POC reside is troubling.

It seems to be another example of Trump walking the line carefully. He tends to push the limits of "acceptable" speech while still punching out against his enemies and thereby firing up his base.

The overwhelming majority of inner-city neighborhoods that can aptly be described that way are populated by POC, so it stands to reason that when that when applied, that phrase will usually be applied to a POC neighborhood.

(Of course, nobody here has shown that Trump has used that phrase repeatedly. Second request.)

There are plenty of white-majority neighborhoods that can be described that way if one chose to do so.

This clip points out the pattern of language that Trump uses:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_conti...YANRUos8Hg

Yes, that example of using the word 'infested' is such amazing proof. Im speechless. /sarcasm off

Is 'infested' now a racial word now? When will 'apple' become one?

Yep, the orange man is making the left quintuple down on that race card.

93, when a district is in the top 2 percentile of violent crime nationally, is it now improper to call it 'crime infested'? Please do tell how those areas should be termed to adhere to the double good speak protocol these days?

I said I didn't think his tweet was racist in and of itself. Like Lad said, the pattern of dehumanizing language directed ONLY at POC is what is troubling IMO.

(07-29-2019 01:14 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 01:00 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 12:53 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 12:40 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  have y'all noticed how Orange man is making the entire progressive/Democratic side defend the indefensible?

He has made them defend the Squad tooth and nail;

he is now making them defend the implied subject of 60 years of Democratic rule of Baltimore with the obvious results from the last three years, including the epicenter of West Baltimore.

The Left is now seemingly "in its 3rd straight year of successive 5 minute hate cycles."

I don't look at the tweet from Trump describing Cummings' district as racist by itself.

I do, however, agree that the pattern of using that type of language only to describe areas where primarily POC reside is troubling.

It seems to be another example of Trump walking the line carefully. He tends to push the limits of "acceptable" speech while still punching out against his enemies and thereby firing up his base.

The overwhelming majority of inner-city neighborhoods that can aptly be described that way are populated by POC, so it stands to reason that when that when applied, that phrase will usually be applied to a POC neighborhood.

(Of course, nobody here has shown that Trump has used that phrase repeatedly. Second request.)

Oh, I missed that request to provide examples of Trump using language like "rat infested" when talking about POC. Here you go (these come from the word search for "infest" on Trump's twitter):

1) Calling Omar, AOC, etc to go back to the "crime infested places from which they came."

2) Telling John Lewis to focus on his "crime infested" district and wondering why he doesn't focus on the "burning and crime infested inner-cities of the US."

3) Complaining about "sending thousands of ill-trained soldiers into Ebola infested areas."

4) Talking about sanctuary cities in California and how they are a "ridiculous, crime ingested, and breeding concept"

5) Railing against how illegal immigrants "pour into and infest our country" (which I think we've talked about on the board before).

6) Talks of an "infestation" of MS-13 gangs

Trump has been targeted and criticized by people of all different colors, but when he lashes out at them, he doesn't use dehumanizing terms like "infest" to combat their claims.

edit: 93 provided the clip I had seen that resulted in me doing some Twitter searching and finding a few other examples.

How would *you* describe area prone to violent crime, then? Obviously you are knee jerking the fk out the term 'crime infested' (which seems pretty accurate).

How dare *anyone* use the term 'crime infested' to actually denote a place where a lot o gd violent crime takes place. The horrors..... You are so brave.....

(07-29-2019 01:48 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 01:45 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 01:07 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 01:00 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 12:53 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  I don't look at the tweet from Trump describing Cummings' district as racist by itself.

I do, however, agree that the pattern of using that type of language only to describe areas where primarily POC reside is troubling.

It seems to be another example of Trump walking the line carefully. He tends to push the limits of "acceptable" speech while still punching out against his enemies and thereby firing up his base.

The overwhelming majority of inner-city neighborhoods that can aptly be described that way are populated by POC, so it stands to reason that when that when applied, that phrase will usually be applied to a POC neighborhood.

(Of course, nobody here has shown that Trump has used that phrase repeatedly. Second request.)

There are plenty of white-majority neighborhoods that can be described that way if one chose to do so.

This clip points out the pattern of language that Trump uses:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_conti...YANRUos8Hg

Yes, that example of using the word 'infested' is such amazing proof. Im speechless. /sarcasm off

Is 'infested' now a racial word now? When will 'apple' become one?

Yep, the orange man is making the left quintuple down on that race card.

93, when a district is in the top 2 percentile of violent crime nationally, is it now improper to call it 'crime infested'? Please do tell how those areas should be termed to adhere to the double good speak protocol these days?

I said I didn't think his tweet was racist in and of itself. Like Lad said, the pattern of dehumanizing language directed ONLY at POC is what is troubling IMO.

Then what term should he use for, say, West Baltimore? You seem to have a real reaction to an accurate term being used for *that* area. What term should he use for Detroit? Or East St Louis?

Please do tell us the proper term.

The long and short that no one wants to talk about, is that violent crime is endemic to minority urban communities. I guess you dont like that cover being pulled off the display and those facts being what they are. But they are facts, nonetheless.

The other facts are that these communities are to a large (almost exclusive) extent guided by lifelong Democratic control -- both in Congressional and city level of government. Crikey, most of the top 10 violent crime cities havent had a Republican mayor in my lifetime, or more.

But, how *dare* we call them 'crime infested'. What is the preferred term to use?

(07-29-2019 02:01 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 01:14 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 01:00 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 12:53 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 12:40 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  have y'all noticed how Orange man is making the entire progressive/Democratic side defend the indefensible?

He has made them defend the Squad tooth and nail;

he is now making them defend the implied subject of 60 years of Democratic rule of Baltimore with the obvious results from the last three years, including the epicenter of West Baltimore.

The Left is now seemingly "in its 3rd straight year of successive 5 minute hate cycles."

I don't look at the tweet from Trump describing Cummings' district as racist by itself.

I do, however, agree that the pattern of using that type of language only to describe areas where primarily POC reside is troubling.

It seems to be another example of Trump walking the line carefully. He tends to push the limits of "acceptable" speech while still punching out against his enemies and thereby firing up his base.

The overwhelming majority of inner-city neighborhoods that can aptly be described that way are populated by POC, so it stands to reason that when that when applied, that phrase will usually be applied to a POC neighborhood.

(Of course, nobody here has shown that Trump has used that phrase repeatedly. Second request.)

Oh, I missed that request to provide examples of Trump using language like "rat infested" when talking about POC. Here you go (these come from the word search for "infest" on Trump's twitter):

1) Calling Omar, AOC, etc to go back to the "crime infested places from which they came."

2) Telling John Lewis to focus on his "crime infested" district and wondering why he doesn't focus on the "burning and crime infested inner-cities of the US."

3) Complaining about "sending thousands of ill-trained soldiers into Ebola infested areas."

4) Talking about sanctuary cities in California and how they are a "ridiculous, crime ingested, and breeding concept"

5) Railing against how illegal immigrants "pour into and infest our country" (which I think we've talked about on the board before).

6) Talks of an "infestation" of MS-13 gangs

Trump has been targeted and criticized by people of all different colors, but when he lashes out at them, he doesn't use dehumanizing terms like "infest" to combat their claims.

edit: 93 provided the clip I had seen that resulted in me doing some Twitter searching and finding a few other examples.

How would *you* describe area prone to violent crime, then? Obviously you are knee jerking the fk out the term 'crime infested' (which seems pretty accurate).

How dare *anyone* use the term 'crime infested' to actually denote a place where a lot o gd violent crime takes place. The horrors..... You are so brave.....

TBH I thought the "no human would want to live there" was more troubling. I haven't checked that quote, Tanq, so don't jump down my throat if it's not 100% accurate.

Would I prefer to see someone else besides Donald Trump elected president in November 2020? Yes.

Would I include any democrat in the field as one of those "someone elses"? Not only no, but hell no. Not even close.

(07-29-2019 02:01 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 01:14 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 01:00 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 12:53 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 12:40 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  have y'all noticed how Orange man is making the entire progressive/Democratic side defend the indefensible?

He has made them defend the Squad tooth and nail;

he is now making them defend the implied subject of 60 years of Democratic rule of Baltimore with the obvious results from the last three years, including the epicenter of West Baltimore.

The Left is now seemingly "in its 3rd straight year of successive 5 minute hate cycles."

I don't look at the tweet from Trump describing Cummings' district as racist by itself.

I do, however, agree that the pattern of using that type of language only to describe areas where primarily POC reside is troubling.

It seems to be another example of Trump walking the line carefully. He tends to push the limits of "acceptable" speech while still punching out against his enemies and thereby firing up his base.

The overwhelming majority of inner-city neighborhoods that can aptly be described that way are populated by POC, so it stands to reason that when that when applied, that phrase will usually be applied to a POC neighborhood.

(Of course, nobody here has shown that Trump has used that phrase repeatedly. Second request.)

Oh, I missed that request to provide examples of Trump using language like "rat infested" when talking about POC. Here you go (these come from the word search for "infest" on Trump's twitter):

1) Calling Omar, AOC, etc to go back to the "crime infested places from which they came."

2) Telling John Lewis to focus on his "crime infested" district and wondering why he doesn't focus on the "burning and crime infested inner-cities of the US."

3) Complaining about "sending thousands of ill-trained soldiers into Ebola infested areas."

4) Talking about sanctuary cities in California and how they are a "ridiculous, crime ingested, and breeding concept"

5) Railing against how illegal immigrants "pour into and infest our country" (which I think we've talked about on the board before).

6) Talks of an "infestation" of MS-13 gangs

Trump has been targeted and criticized by people of all different colors, but when he lashes out at them, he doesn't use dehumanizing terms like "infest" to combat their claims.

edit: 93 provided the clip I had seen that resulted in me doing some Twitter searching and finding a few other examples.

How would *you* describe area prone to violent crime, then? Obviously you are knee jerking the fk out the term 'crime infested' (which seems pretty accurate).

How dare *anyone* use the term 'crime infested' to actually denote a place where a lot o gd violent crime takes place. The horrors..... You are so brave.....

You said:

Quote:Of course, nobody here has shown that Trump has used that phrase repeatedly. Second request.

I delivered a summary of every instance that Trump has tweeted the word "infest" in his entire Twitter life. Sorry that I provided the answer you asked for.

Perhaps describing an area prone to violent crime as an area prone to violent crime would be a good place to start?

(07-29-2019 02:24 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Perhaps describing an area prone to violent crime as an area prone to violent crime would be a good place to start?

Or "crime infested." What's wrong with that?

(07-29-2019 02:29 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 02:24 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Perhaps describing an area prone to violent crime as an area prone to violent crime would be a good place to start?

Or "crime infested." What's wrong with that?

Read above.

(07-29-2019 02:24 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 02:01 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 01:14 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 01:00 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 12:53 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  I don't look at the tweet from Trump describing Cummings' district as racist by itself.

I do, however, agree that the pattern of using that type of language only to describe areas where primarily POC reside is troubling.

It seems to be another example of Trump walking the line carefully. He tends to push the limits of "acceptable" speech while still punching out against his enemies and thereby firing up his base.

The overwhelming majority of inner-city neighborhoods that can aptly be described that way are populated by POC, so it stands to reason that when that when applied, that phrase will usually be applied to a POC neighborhood.

(Of course, nobody here has shown that Trump has used that phrase repeatedly. Second request.)

Oh, I missed that request to provide examples of Trump using language like "rat infested" when talking about POC. Here you go (these come from the word search for "infest" on Trump's twitter):

1) Calling Omar, AOC, etc to go back to the "crime infested places from which they came."

2) Telling John Lewis to focus on his "crime infested" district and wondering why he doesn't focus on the "burning and crime infested inner-cities of the US."

3) Complaining about "sending thousands of ill-trained soldiers into Ebola infested areas."

4) Talking about sanctuary cities in California and how they are a "ridiculous, crime ingested, and breeding concept"

5) Railing against how illegal immigrants "pour into and infest our country" (which I think we've talked about on the board before).

6) Talks of an "infestation" of MS-13 gangs

Trump has been targeted and criticized by people of all different colors, but when he lashes out at them, he doesn't use dehumanizing terms like "infest" to combat their claims.

edit: 93 provided the clip I had seen that resulted in me doing some Twitter searching and finding a few other examples.

How would *you* describe area prone to violent crime, then? Obviously you are knee jerking the fk out the term 'crime infested' (which seems pretty accurate).

How dare *anyone* use the term 'crime infested' to actually denote a place where a lot o gd violent crime takes place. The horrors..... You are so brave.....

You said:

Quote:Of course, nobody here has shown that Trump has used that phrase repeatedly. Second request.

I delivered a summary of every instance that Trump has tweeted the word "infest" in his entire Twitter life. Sorry that I provided the answer you asked for.

Perhaps describing an area prone to violent crime as an area prone to violent crime would be a good place to start?

(You're getting mine and Tanq's posts confused.)

Language policing? It's come to that?

But here's the problem - everybody knows that what has Democrats in a tizzy isn't the words he's using, because there's nothing wrong with those words. The issue that he's telling the truth about inner-city neighborhoods that have had Democratic representation for decades, and that's a truth that's supposed to remain unspoken.

He's hardly the first person to describe inner-city neighborhoods as crime-infested. That's a very popular perception held by most people. Had he used the phrase "crime-ridden" then "ridden" would be the racist term of the day. He's the first politician at the national level to openly state the correlation between high-crime neighborhoods and the Democrats, and he's breaking a taboo by doing so.

(07-29-2019 02:30 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 02:29 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 02:24 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Perhaps describing an area prone to violent crime as an area prone to violent crime would be a good place to start?

Or "crime infested." What's wrong with that?

Read above.

I did. I don't see anything wrong with telling the truth if the truth hurts.

(07-29-2019 02:33 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 02:24 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 02:01 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 01:14 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 01:00 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  The overwhelming majority of inner-city neighborhoods that can aptly be described that way are populated by POC, so it stands to reason that when that when applied, that phrase will usually be applied to a POC neighborhood.

(Of course, nobody here has shown that Trump has used that phrase repeatedly. Second request.)

Oh, I missed that request to provide examples of Trump using language like "rat infested" when talking about POC. Here you go (these come from the word search for "infest" on Trump's twitter):

1) Calling Omar, AOC, etc to go back to the "crime infested places from which they came."

2) Telling John Lewis to focus on his "crime infested" district and wondering why he doesn't focus on the "burning and crime infested inner-cities of the US."

3) Complaining about "sending thousands of ill-trained soldiers into Ebola infested areas."

4) Talking about sanctuary cities in California and how they are a "ridiculous, crime ingested, and breeding concept"

5) Railing against how illegal immigrants "pour into and infest our country" (which I think we've talked about on the board before).

6) Talks of an "infestation" of MS-13 gangs

Trump has been targeted and criticized by people of all different colors, but when he lashes out at them, he doesn't use dehumanizing terms like "infest" to combat their claims.

edit: 93 provided the clip I had seen that resulted in me doing some Twitter searching and finding a few other examples.

How would *you* describe area prone to violent crime, then? Obviously you are knee jerking the fk out the term 'crime infested' (which seems pretty accurate).

How dare *anyone* use the term 'crime infested' to actually denote a place where a lot o gd violent crime takes place. The horrors..... You are so brave.....

You said:

Quote:Of course, nobody here has shown that Trump has used that phrase repeatedly. Second request.

I delivered a summary of every instance that Trump has tweeted the word "infest" in his entire Twitter life. Sorry that I provided the answer you asked for.

Perhaps describing an area prone to violent crime as an area prone to violent crime would be a good place to start?

(You're getting mine and Tanq's posts confused.)

Language policing? It's come to that?

But here's the problem - everybody knows that what has Democrats in a tizzy isn't the words he's using, because there's nothing wrong with those words. The issue that he's telling the truth about inner-city neighborhoods that have had Democratic representation for decades, and that's a truth that's supposed to remain unspoken.

He's hardly the first person to describe inner-city neighborhoods as crime-infested. That's a very popular perception held by most people. Had he used the phrase "crime-ridden" then "ridden" would be the racist term of the day. He's the first politician at the national level to openly state the correlation between high-crime neighborhoods and the Democrats, and he's breaking a taboo by doing so.

Trust me, he isn't the first politician at the national level to try and correlate inner-city crime and Democrats. Where were you every time a Republican tried to correlate the issue in Chicago with Obama?

I just wonder how y'all would feel if Obama had described portions of Appalachia dealing with the opioid epidemic in the same, tactless manner? I know that the bitter clingy comment really riled people up - so why is it so hard to understand that people are rile up over how Trump is talking about POC and a portion of Baltimore and the greater Baltimore area?

(07-29-2019 02:30 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 02:29 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 02:24 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Perhaps describing an area prone to violent crime as an area prone to violent crime would be a good place to start?

Or "crime infested." What's wrong with that?

Read above.

Because the thin-skinned progressives think that term racist now it seems.

Perhaps when I call Orkin today I will have to make sure I use the terminology 'a high preponderance of wasps' regarding the absolutely huge mud castle I found on the side of the house Sunday.

Cant be too careful with the word 'infest' and all its derivations now, I guess.

I wont say Orange man is making the progressives quintuple down on the race trump card, I would septuple it now that we now see this 'up in arms' over the term 'infest'.

Rent free living I would say.

In the space of 24 hours the progressives and talking points now seem to have to defend the shithole that West Baltimore is; defend the prevalence of Democratic leadership over those same spots; and are making the hue and cry that 'infest' is now a double ungood bad term to use.

This is better than a ticket to a cheap ass, threadbare carnival.

(07-29-2019 02:41 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 02:33 PM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 02:24 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 02:01 PM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 01:14 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Oh, I missed that request to provide examples of Trump using language like "rat infested" when talking about POC. Here you go (these come from the word search for "infest" on Trump's twitter):

1) Calling Omar, AOC, etc to go back to the "crime infested places from which they came."

2) Telling John Lewis to focus on his "crime infested" district and wondering why he doesn't focus on the "burning and crime infested inner-cities of the US."

3) Complaining about "sending thousands of ill-trained soldiers into Ebola infested areas."

4) Talking about sanctuary cities in California and how they are a "ridiculous, crime ingested, and breeding concept"

5) Railing against how illegal immigrants "pour into and infest our country" (which I think we've talked about on the board before).

6) Talks of an "infestation" of MS-13 gangs

Trump has been targeted and criticized by people of all different colors, but when he lashes out at them, he doesn't use dehumanizing terms like "infest" to combat their claims.

edit: 93 provided the clip I had seen that resulted in me doing some Twitter searching and finding a few other examples.

How would *you* describe area prone to violent crime, then? Obviously you are knee jerking the fk out the term 'crime infested' (which seems pretty accurate).

How dare *anyone* use the term 'crime infested' to actually denote a place where a lot o gd violent crime takes place. The horrors..... You are so brave.....

You said:

Quote:Of course, nobody here has shown that Trump has used that phrase repeatedly. Second request.

I delivered a summary of every instance that Trump has tweeted the word "infest" in his entire Twitter life. Sorry that I provided the answer you asked for.

Perhaps describing an area prone to violent crime as an area prone to violent crime would be a good place to start?

(You're getting mine and Tanq's posts confused.)

Language policing? It's come to that?

But here's the problem - everybody knows that what has Democrats in a tizzy isn't the words he's using, because there's nothing wrong with those words. The issue that he's telling the truth about inner-city neighborhoods that have had Democratic representation for decades, and that's a truth that's supposed to remain unspoken.

He's hardly the first person to describe inner-city neighborhoods as crime-infested. That's a very popular perception held by most people. Had he used the phrase "crime-ridden" then "ridden" would be the racist term of the day. He's the first politician at the national level to openly state the correlation between high-crime neighborhoods and the Democrats, and he's breaking a taboo by doing so.

Trust me, he isn't the first politician at the national level to try and correlate inner-city crime and Democrats. Where were you every time a Republican tried to correlate the issue in Chicago with Obama?

I just wonder how y'all would feel if Obama had described portions of Appalachia dealing with the opioid epidemic in the same, tactless manner? I know that the bitter clingy comment really riled people up - so why is it so hard to understand that people are rile up over how Trump is talking about POC and a portion of Baltimore and the greater Baltimore area?

Obama could have. He chose to use religion to castigate them. Remember that?

(07-29-2019 02:41 PM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  Trust me, he isn't the first politician at the national level to try and correlate inner-city crime and Democrats. Where were you every time a Republican tried to correlate the issue in Chicago with Obama?

He's the first to verge on saying outright that keeping inner-city neighborhoods impoverished and racially-segregated is in the Democrats' interests, and that's reason for panic.

Quote:I just wonder how y'all would feel if Obama had described portions of Appalachia dealing with the opioid epidemic in the same, tactless manner?

That would be inaccurate. The opiod epidemic isn't particular to portions of Appalachia, and doesn't correlate with party representation.

Quote:I know that the bitter clingy comment really riled people up - so why is it so hard to understand that people are rile up over how Trump is talking about POC and a portion of Baltimore and the greater Baltimore area?

The bitter, clingy comment was ad hominem. "Crime-infested" is another term for "high-crime". Not ad hominem.

Not one of these liberals here would want to move to a rat-infested, high-crime area of any city.

OTOH, I hear a lot about people wanting to get out.

Nearly everybody prefers to live somewhere clean and safe.

Movin' on up

My concern is that throwing the term "racist" around so freely may truly insulate us from responding to cases of real racism. Kind of like the boy who cried "wolf." I don't see that as a useful or helpful result

(07-29-2019 03:59 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  My concern is that throwing the term "racist" around so freely may truly insulate us from responding to cases of real racism. Kind of like the boy who cried "wolf." I don't see that as a useful or helpful result

I'm curious where and if you rightys draw the line on Trump's talk. I wasn't following this back then but I'm going to need to back and look. I assume there was a "grab them by the p****" discussion pre-election?

(07-29-2019 05:39 PM)Rice93 Wrote:  

(07-29-2019 03:59 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  My concern is that throwing the term "racist" around so freely may truly insulate us from responding to cases of real racism. Kind of like the boy who cried "wolf." I don't see that as a useful or helpful result

I'm curious where and if you rightys draw the line on Trump's talk. I wasn't following this back then but I'm going to need to back and look. I assume there was a "grab them by the p****" discussion pre-election?

"Grab them by the *****" is vulgar.

"Disgusting, rat- and rodent-infested mess" is not vulgar, or racist.

Which other terms do you wish to have catalogued? What purpose will the list serve?