I posted in another thread that since Aresco did not get 8 mill per year, he should be fired, but then started thinking who else would have done any better job with the AAC's contract negotiations. He already had experience with what the networks are looking for to get the maximum amount for the conference and, granted the some of the AAC members have done a good job of representing in football to make his job easier, has the AAC with the best contract not in the A5 . The university presidents in the AAC seem to be happy with his performance that they are not firing him so I will go with that decision.

Wanted to vote Yes again.
Please vote if you haven’t.
Very important to vote.

(07-17-2019 10:56 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-17-2019 07:44 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(07-16-2019 07:50 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-16-2019 06:10 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  Folks do not understand the time value of money. From a valuation POV this is not a $7mm per year contract. Aresco is not being honest with this deal.
What value add has Aresco given this conference? It is a very important question.

The same is true of every deal your comparing it to as well.

Not really cause this deal starts out way less than $7mm and climbs up each year. It is a total lie saying it is $7mm per. Hell by the time it gets to $7mm a quarter of our teams could be playing in the new B12. Just Aresco putting lipstick on a pig to justify his bloated salary.

Lol. It’s not a lie. It’s an average. You think represented the value of our deal using the average is somehow unique in that aspect? It starts at around 5.5 million and ends at about 8.5 million. On average it will be 7 million a year—that’s where the figure comes from. I’m perplexed as to why you don’t understand that EVERY single deal your comparing ours to is calculated based on an average as well. Their deals all do the same thing—-including our current 2013 deal that we are in the last year of.

The value of the deal is not $7mm in real dollars. Thus a lie. This cannot be argued.

(07-17-2019 03:16 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(07-17-2019 10:56 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-17-2019 07:44 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(07-16-2019 07:50 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-16-2019 06:10 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  Folks do not understand the time value of money. From a valuation POV this is not a $7mm per year contract. Aresco is not being honest with this deal.
What value add has Aresco given this conference? It is a very important question.

The same is true of every deal your comparing it to as well.

Not really cause this deal starts out way less than $7mm and climbs up each year. It is a total lie saying it is $7mm per. Hell by the time it gets to $7mm a quarter of our teams could be playing in the new B12. Just Aresco putting lipstick on a pig to justify his bloated salary.

Lol. It’s not a lie. It’s an average. You think represented the value of our deal using the average is somehow unique in that aspect? It starts at around 5.5 million and ends at about 8.5 million. On average it will be 7 million a year—that’s where the figure comes from. I’m perplexed as to why you don’t understand that EVERY single deal your comparing ours to is calculated based on an average as well. Their deals all do the same thing—-including our current 2013 deal that we are in the last year of.

The value of the deal is not $7mm in real dollars. Thus a lie. This cannot be argued.

Inflation is at a paltry 1.6% so far in 2019. The deal adds about 25% in value across 12 years. This should mean that in back half of the deal it will not only be 7mm, but should exceed it in the final 25% of the deal.

It is not going to be 7mm in real dollars until 2024ish or so iirc. We'll know the final details later.

We do not know what the CFB market will do in the next 12 years, so it is undetermined whether or not this deal becomes stronger relative to other deals.

We're the only G5 conference with appreciating value at this point.

The

(07-17-2019 03:25 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(07-17-2019 03:16 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(07-17-2019 10:56 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-17-2019 07:44 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(07-16-2019 07:50 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  The same is true of every deal your comparing it to as well.

Not really cause this deal starts out way less than $7mm and climbs up each year. It is a total lie saying it is $7mm per. Hell by the time it gets to $7mm a quarter of our teams could be playing in the new B12. Just Aresco putting lipstick on a pig to justify his bloated salary.

Lol. It’s not a lie. It’s an average. You think represented the value of our deal using the average is somehow unique in that aspect? It starts at around 5.5 million and ends at about 8.5 million. On average it will be 7 million a year—that’s where the figure comes from. I’m perplexed as to why you don’t understand that EVERY single deal your comparing ours to is calculated based on an average as well. Their deals all do the same thing—-including our current 2013 deal that we are in the last year of.

The value of the deal is not $7mm in real dollars. Thus a lie. This cannot be argued.

Inflation is at a paltry 1.6% so far in 2019. The deal adds about 25% in value across 12 years. This should mean that in back half of the deal it will not only be 7mm, but should exceed it in the final 25% of the deal.

It is not going to be 7mm in real dollars until 2024ish or so iirc. We'll know the final details later.

We do not know what the CFB market will do in the next 12 years, so it is undetermined whether or not this deal becomes stronger relative to other deals.

We're the only G5 conference with appreciating value at this point.

Jesus man, r u paying attention? It is a deal with a sliding scale. Do u get the ramifications in real dollars? Do u understand that the deal is totally backloaded for a conference with time issues?
The worst are those who say “well that is what the market will bear”. Then why hire any leadership?

You would think the "yes" votes would take the hint. 71% to 29% not to fire him, after 155 votes.

Lol Tulane has the saltiest fans...love it

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(07-17-2019 04:04 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Lol Tulane has the saltiest fans...love it

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Fans that understand contracts.
This is far from the $1b deal reported. That’s fine and better than all G5’s by a long shot (with good reason). Just don’t lie to the public. The contract is done, tell it like it is.

(07-17-2019 03:33 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  The

(07-17-2019 03:25 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(07-17-2019 03:16 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(07-17-2019 10:56 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(07-17-2019 07:44 AM)wavefan12 Wrote:  Not really cause this deal starts out way less than $7mm and climbs up each year. It is a total lie saying it is $7mm per. Hell by the time it gets to $7mm a quarter of our teams could be playing in the new B12. Just Aresco putting lipstick on a pig to justify his bloated salary.

Lol. It’s not a lie. It’s an average. You think represented the value of our deal using the average is somehow unique in that aspect? It starts at around 5.5 million and ends at about 8.5 million. On average it will be 7 million a year—that’s where the figure comes from. I’m perplexed as to why you don’t understand that EVERY single deal your comparing ours to is calculated based on an average as well. Their deals all do the same thing—-including our current 2013 deal that we are in the last year of.

The value of the deal is not $7mm in real dollars. Thus a lie. This cannot be argued.

Inflation is at a paltry 1.6% so far in 2019. The deal adds about 25% in value across 12 years. This should mean that in back half of the deal it will not only be 7mm, but should exceed it in the final 25% of the deal.

It is not going to be 7mm in real dollars until 2024ish or so iirc. We'll know the final details later.

We do not know what the CFB market will do in the next 12 years, so it is undetermined whether or not this deal becomes stronger relative to other deals.

We're the only G5 conference with appreciating value at this point.

Jesus man, r u paying attention? It is a deal with a sliding scale. Do u get the ramifications in real dollars? Do u understand that the deal is totally backloaded for a conference with time issues?
The worst are those who say “well that is what the market will bear”. Then why hire any leadership?

Time issues? We don't have time issues. We are 6 years before possible movement, and there is little reason to expect that the AAC loses any additional membership unless schools toss in the FB towel. There is an excellent chance we see the end of this deal.

Using 2009 to 2019 - a stable period of growth - the overall adjustment would sit at about 19 percent. The TV deal adjusted for inflation starts in the mid 6mm and then peaks a flicker above 7mm.... ...and that's assuming we don't see a recession.

As for value added, we didn't give Aresco that much to work with. We paid him 200k per school or so per year to get a TV deal that destroys comparable product in terms of value.

The G4 joke is real because of that deal.

We easily could have hired a cheapskate commish and lost a few million per year in TV rights. There is no point in being penny smart and dollar stupid.

Aresco's bad contract is a poker loss. I remember what cheap leadership in CUSA pulled - and with many of the same schools.

(07-17-2019 04:04 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Lol Tulane has the saltiest fans...love it

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If Hunter turns hoops around like Fritz is doing in FB this place will get mental.

(07-17-2019 04:52 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(07-17-2019 04:04 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Lol Tulane has the saltiest fans...love it

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Wavefan12
Pabalowow or whatever

If Hunter turns hoops around like Fritz is doing in FB this place will get mental.

This. Hunter is making moves. TU has a nice practice facility and a school that offers recruits academics and 4 years of enjoyment. Recently ranked #1 college city and #1 party school. All while being in the top 50 schools in the nation. Beat that.

The creation of the Miami Beach Bowl was one of the dumbest ideas ever. If he didn't get fired for that, it's too late now.

(07-17-2019 05:08 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  The creation of the Miami Beach Bowl was one of the dumbest ideas ever. If he didn't get fired for that, it's too late now.

Honestly my biggest issue is that he has a punchable face.

(07-17-2019 05:04 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(07-17-2019 04:52 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(07-17-2019 04:04 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Lol Tulane has the saltiest fans...love it

Savacool
Greenwave16
Wavefan12
Pabalowow or whatever

If Hunter turns hoops around like Fritz is doing in FB this place will get mental.

This. Hunter is making moves. TU has a nice practice facility and a school that offers recruits academics and 4 years of enjoyment. Recently ranked #1 college city and #1 party school. All while being in the top 50 schools in the nation. Beat that.

If Tulane is recruiting players that care about academics, you are recruiting the wrong players.

(07-17-2019 05:08 PM)72Tiger Wrote:  The creation of the Miami Beach Bowl was one of the dumbest ideas ever. If he didn't get fired for that, it's too late now.

Ain’t that the truth. Aresco. Fail.

(07-17-2019 07:11 PM)va-eagle Wrote:  

(07-17-2019 05:04 PM)wavefan12 Wrote:  

(07-17-2019 04:52 PM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(07-17-2019 04:04 PM)Bearcats#1 Wrote:  Lol Tulane has the saltiest fans...love it

Savacool
Greenwave16
Wavefan12
Pabalowow or whatever

If Hunter turns hoops around like Fritz is doing in FB this place will get mental.

This. Hunter is making moves. TU has a nice practice facility and a school that offers recruits academics and 4 years of enjoyment. Recently ranked #1 college city and #1 party school. All while being in the top 50 schools in the nation. Beat that.

If Tulane is recruiting players that care about academics, you are recruiting the wrong players.

Not as simple as u think, staying eligible is key. Tulane is too small to just take anyone and values their metrics. We already suffer too much turnover from those getting lost in the NOLA fun.

112-46. lol

Give it up. The poll speaks for itself.

The question is not about being fired it is about ROI. The man makes as much as the SEC commish. Anyone who thinks that is reasonable has issues.

Where has the conference come compared to the other non-A5 conferences There is only so far that can be improved unless other changes happen, like a Big12-10 implosion, and that is not a guarantee. The pay itself is on the presidents of the conference. You surely have contacted yours if this is your opinion.